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Lothar Ignatius
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 | 04:24 PM
I beleive the Amish kids are really Amish in the show Amish in the City. There is nothing in the Amish culture that prohibits members from getting a natural suntan, and the two directors of the series previously directed the excellent documentary "Devil's Playground" that is far more shocking (and excellent) than anything in the TV series.
On the other hand I definetly felt this show portrayed some of the "fake reality" elements that have started popping up in so many of these shows, particularly the scene when the Amish guy almosts drowns, yet is shot from 5 or 6 different camera angles. This seems to be a "recreation" which is becoming increasingly more popular in these shows, and is not in fact documentary footage. |
Shawna
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 | 12:47 PM
I have not seen the show, but I live among the Amish and they work outdoors all day every day. I would think that sunscreen is prohibited by their Bishops before tanning. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 09:56 AM
I was pissed off when I saw the first episode when the Amish kids were seeing everything that they have never seen. Like an escalator. They seemed to just pass it off. I wanted to see them run and scream thinking that the devil was going to come after them.
Mose said that he already became full Amish then why is he able to do ramspringa (spelling?)
I was watching it with a friend and she didn't understand how can an Amish girl have highlights. She said that they have been in her hair for a bit because there were roots showing. |
Shawna
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 10:12 AM
Those Amish kids are a HOOT. You always see them at Walmart and the mall trying to "pass" for "English". I have even seen one driving a buggy listening to Metallica. They are basically allowed to do anything they want during rumspringa, including highlights. They have hootenannies in barns and get drunk on home made liquor. Some even have cars that they hide in the woods.
They can be very, very hypocritical too. I think they have to be. As farm land disappears they have gotten into the building trades which makes phones and cell phones necessary. They hire drivers to cart them around because let's be honest, horse and buggy are not efficient thse days.
As far as the devil coming after them, I think the kids are really pissed that they miss out on so much and I've asked one that I saw in a BAR what they believe and he didn't know, just said they live the way they do because that's how they were raised. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 04:09 PM
I know that they would be able to do the highlights during that thing but the way my friend made it sound is like she would of had to have it before she started it. Which made her think it could be a hoax.
She thinks that one of the girls will not go back because she likes how she looks in normal clothes.
Not to offend anyone but you kind of get the idea that the Amish seems like a cult. Because they make their lives restrict to only what was around hundreds of years ago.
I also heard that the Amish do not pay any taxes. Do you know if this is true and if so why? |
Shawna
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 04:25 PM
They do pay some taxes, I THINK state but not federal. They are exempt from public school, military service and taxes on religious grounds. I think the real reason anymore is the tourist $ they bring to Lancaster County. They are extremely strange folks and remind me of the Hasidic Jews a little bit. It would not be at all surprising for a girl to try a little hair color prior to rumspringa, since they wear those head coverings all the time. Anymore, especially among the young Amish it is kind of a hoax because they are always trying to "pass" (which is hilarious). I get so mad at the Amish too. They drive their horses and buggies on highways and the horses get so afraid of the trucks that they literally die on the spot. If they NEED to go to the mall or Walmart they can just drive a car, I mean what is the difference? The point of not using artificially powered transportation is so they cannot stray far from home and family. They get all over the place, believe me! |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 10:46 PM
You seem to be quite knowledgeable about the Amish. Do they really believe that cameras will steal their soul? |
Shawna
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 | 08:02 AM
Yes they do believe that, or did once and now are just simply averse to having their photo taken. They are a strange bunch. And they stink. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 | 09:11 PM
I saw Mose and Ariel on "Good Morning America". The way the people on the show made it sound was like the show was done 2 years ago. And if that is so then they ruined part of the ending.
Which sucks about reality shows people do not like to kind the surprise ending a surprise. |
Shawna
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 | 08:01 AM
I live in Lancaster County, where the Amish are from and as far as I understand it the show was done rather recently or is still happening. There was a big hoo-ha around here about exploiting the Amish which is ridiculous because we exploit/depend on them for tourist dollars. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 | 01:13 PM
I heard them say something to Mose about doing Ramspringa 2 years ago. And on the show they were talking about how the city kids how to go be Amish, and that is going to be next week's episode.
What state is Lancaster Country in? |
Shawna
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 | 01:22 PM
Lancaster County is in Pennsylvania and as far as the local newspaper says, the Amish kids just agreed to do this in late spring/early summer 2004. Last winter the local politicians were trying to sue the WB or whomever is running the show because the Amish are so special. Maybe Mose is not truly Amish, or perhaps he did not accept the church - although most do, because WHAT else are they going to do with those haircuts and clothes? I have a feeling that what you are seeing (I do not watch TV) may be a farce to some degree because practically NO Amish would agree to be on television like that. Also, the flap died pretty quickly so I have to wonder about the authenticity of those Amish. Do they speak with a heavy accent??? |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 | 09:22 PM
Mose seemed to still talk the same way as they did on the show as Good Morning America.In the first epsiode he said he became part of the church and never got to do that. I am wondering if the show was done taping because on GMA they were talking about an episode that hasn't happen yet.
I do not really follow the show much. Just watched it because a friend of mine wanted to see it.
I do want to find out if they go back. It would be hard to Amish kids to leave because as you said what are they going to do with their clothes and stuff. They would be going away with nothing and not able to talk to their familes.
Will be harder for these kids to choose because they are actually seeing a big city. Not the smallish ones that they probably go to. |
Shawna
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 | 04:52 PM
You are correct, Lancaster, the city they go to is very small. They also frequently get to our state capital, Harrisburg, and even Philadelphia. I have know Amish who leave the church and it is very difficult for them to assimilate. Their families do not always "shun" them but the "English" do, the Amish are so different from us. It is hard to know them. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 | 05:19 PM
Growing up with no "luxeries" and probably told that everything we do is weird. But we have grown up thinking people that do what they do is weird. |
Shawna
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 | 08:01 AM
Right. But trust me, they sneak luxuries. They are always at Walmart and the mall. Thet are filthy rich too because they pay few taxes, have no cars and live frugally. It must be very hard for them to assimilate still - with so many rules, even if they break them, they are still constarined by their way of life. I feel sorry for their horses. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 | 08:19 AM
Yeah I would feel sorry for their horses too. Travelling long distances and I think you said something before about them being on the highway. Little too dangerous for me.
Do you follow the show or just hear about it because where you live and saw one episode? |
Shawna
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 | 08:24 AM
I don't watch any television, but am interested because they are from my 'hood. They run those horses on the roads and don't give them anything to drink and they are so thirsty they are foaming at the mouth. More than once I have wanted to park, pull the Amish out of the buggy, kick their butts and take their horse. I might do it one of these days. |
Larry
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 | 02:30 AM
Shawna - I grew up in Amish country in Iowa and have to say you have some knowledge of the Amish but also show the typical synical view that alot of people do. I don't think you have as much knowledge about the Amish as you claim you do -- you seem to have the outsider's view. The Amish pay taxes. They are exempt from military service, as are the Mennonites, Quakers, Hutterites and Brethren. They don't believe in wars, but do believe strongly in "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and "turn the other cheek" The Amish do not pay school taxes because they have their own schools.
Horses don't foam at the mouth because they are dying of thurst - admittedly they might be thirsty but the briddle in their mouth causes the horse to foam....have you noticed that their aren't many places to stop and water a horse on the way to town? I doubt if they are any richer than anyone else. They work hard for their money and have fewer living expenses than we do....so they probably have a little more to spend than we do. They do have accents because they learn a dialect of German (called Pennsylvania Dutch by us) as their first language -- which they speak at home and amongst themselves. English is their second language which they learn in school. |
Shawna
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 | 08:01 AM
I am quite familiar with Pennsylvania Dutch as my Grandparents spoke it and my husband's Granparent's still do. Of course I have an outsider's view, I am not Amish. I think I did say they have a great deal of money as they have fewer things to spend it on and I never said they don't work hard. ALL of us with a Pennsylvania German ancestry have been brought up with a serious work ethic. I DO feel sorry for their horses. They get spooked and die of fright on highways. If I have a chance I will look for the archived newspaper article and post it. I am aware of the fact that they are exempt from military service. I was not sure of which taxes they do pay and I certainly never claimed to be an expert. I simply stated as I will continue to state, that I live among the Amish. Sorry to have offended you, as you are an obvious expert on the Anabaptist sects. I believe the word is spelled, "cynical". I have as much knowledge as I have and did not claim to have more than that. Fairly simple logic. |
Kell
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 | 05:29 PM
I just have to know did any of the Amish kids go back to the Amish way of life? The final show did not truly state one way or another. Does anyone know? |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 | 05:36 PM
Are you sure that was the final show? I haven't been watching it but I would think that they would of had them say for sure if they were going to stay Amish or not. |
kell
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 | 05:43 PM
Although I could be wrong, my impression was that that was infact the last show. An example of what I do not understand is (Ruth stated she was going to nursing school the she said if her boyfriend stayed amish so would she, but they did not say for sure either way. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 | 05:47 PM
Check the tv listings and see if they have it listed on for the day it normally plays. |
kell
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 | 04:35 PM
I guess no-one knows if these amish kids truly went back to the amish or not. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 | 10:34 AM
I only saw the last bit of the show when they were saying goodbye. Jonas said that he was not going back, because he wanted to go to college. But the rest of them all said that they didn't know if they were going back. Which I thought was dumb because everyone watched to see if they were going back or staying and most of them "i don't know." I am glad for Jonas tho he has an idea what he wants to do with his life. |
Maegan
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 | 10:24 AM
I watched it & I enjoyed it...The last show was misleading, because I just kept watching because I wanted to find out what was going to happen.
I admire the Amish (& similar sects) for what they've been able to do. Keeping themselves out of the 'world'. I always wondered if I could go there to learn. I can run a sewing machine & turn on the breadmaker...but stitching? quilting? I've made one loaf of bread by hand. It does take a lot. But think about it, even 200 years ago, people went to the general store for shoes or fabric. I don't see anything wrong with them coming into town to pick up some things. And I have seen a lot of Amish at theme parks. I live about 25 minutes from Busch Gardens - Tampa. So my family always had passes & we'd go every week in the summer. The Amish were always there eating icecream. |
melissa
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 | 10:10 PM
I have a comment on you thinking its fake. HELLO, amish girls work on the farm as well. They also hang clothing outside,do some laundry outside, work on the farm. They get tans as well. When they go to sell their crops, hey could that be outside as well? Most amish walk where they need to go within a mile. I live in Lancaster Pa and i see amish men and yes WOMEN walking all the time. Most of the time, amish women have a better tan then me. Come on now, your comment was blank and igornant |
melissa
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 | 10:13 PM
Lenny Carlson
You seem to be quite knowledgeable about the Amish. Do they really believe that cameras will steal their soul?
Yes lenny, they do not believe in embedding of their portrit, so they believe you are taking a peice of them away from themselves. I have a running joke with my friend we should go around taking pics of amish, and sell them their soul back for $20 lol I have seen amish get pretty mad at tourist around here lol |
melissa
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 | 10:15 PM
ignorant* yes i can spell lol |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 | 10:48 PM
I live here in North Central Pennsylvania, and have had many dealing with Amish and Mennonite community members. I find them to be industrious, concientious, honest, and truly devoted to their beliefs and communities. These are not backward people who shun the evils of "regular" society- they are truly devoted to an independant ability to make their own decisions, not at the whims of fashion or political expedience. They are good, decent people, and I respect them greatly. By the way, my auto mechanic and his family are Mennonites. They do good work, at a fair price... can't get that in the MTV world, now can you? |
melissa
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 | 11:21 PM
devoted and honest? You need to watch the devils playground. That shows what rumspringing teens are doing. These parents who are christians are allowing they kids to go have sex, do drugs and all on their property. Christianity clearly states no sex before marriage, but they are allowing their daughters and sons to have sex. They think since they havent joined the church yet it is ok. What crap is that. So some girls and alot of boys arent virgins when they marry. Ive done so many research papers on this paper, im so flushed with the parents of these teens. I dont get how you can allow your child out into a modern world when they arent educated about birth control, protection, drug overdoses and drinking. They let these kids out on our society like a pack of wild wolves, and to the parents, they turn their heads and try not to think about what their kids are doing. They refuse to teach about sex and drugs, because its againest the church , but they let their kids engage in these activities. The worst part is i have heard regular boys getting in these amish parties and taking advantage of the amish virgin girls/.Seems very hypocritical. As i said in previous post, i live around amish, i have a respect for them, but not when it comes to this. |
rachel-alabama
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 | 10:15 PM
I have family in lancaster county and it just so happens that the amish live there. It was a great experience for me to see them and the country side. Yet, the children looked quite bored and sad as they were looking on to what modern americans are doing. I think as time progresses, there will be fewer and fewer amish living among us.After that, what else is left for american heritage and culture? I thought the show was great and Mose was such a cutie....except I was so surprised how close minded the city kids were that they had no idea who the amish were. It was disgusting. Furthermore, continue to make fun of what they believe so dearly. That's not very inviting for the amish and I applaud Kevan for being such a friend to the only people who deserved one in that household. Those being the amish. |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 09:39 AM
I first wondered about the "camera stealing soul" because I heard a comedian say that there was going to be an Amish cooking show. The he said there would be a problem because they would not be able to watch it. After he said "come on Shamis time to start the show" "BUT THE CAMERA WILL STEAL MY SOUL!"
I just didn't know how much the truth of that was. Thanks for the knowledge melissa.. and the great idea to make money. 😊 |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 04:24 PM
Pleash come back. Amish you already |
Shawna
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 04:34 PM
All I have to say is those of us, Amish, Mennonite, Moravian, Church German, who call ourselves Pennsylvania Dutch, have some marvelous, fattening, tasty, comforting food!!!!! They probably went back just for the food. It's not subtle - but if you are raised on it - nothing else will do!!!!! |
melissa
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 04:59 PM
shoot shawna i couldnt agree more!!!!! lol |
The Curator
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 05:58 PM
Very true, Shawna. The stuff may be a heart attack on a plate, but it sure does taste good. (Pennsylvania Dutch on my mother's side) |
Lenny Carlson
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 07:30 PM
Has anyone heard if they have actually decided to go back? Most of them on the last show were still not sure what they were going to do, and didn't know if there was some other site that said what they are doing now.
I do not know of there food, but I am fat so I am sure I would like it. |
Paul
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 | 07:39 PM
But Alex: Boese or B |
Shawna
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 10:16 AM
Ah the food - baked oatmeal, pork and sauerkraut, potpie with homemade noodles and saffron, corn pie, sticky buns, apple dumplings, baked corn, ham loaf, pickled eggs (or red beet eggs depending on your PA region), oatmeal pie, vegetable soup WITH a knee bone and cabbage, hot sweet & sour mayonnaise dressing that is good on salad and chicken salad, whoopie pies, spice cookies - anyone else have any I've missed??? :~) |
The Curator
in San Diego
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 11:43 AM
Paul, the Pennsylvania Dutch aren't actually of Dutch origin. They're German. They were originally called the Pennsylvania Deutsch. But Americans heard 'Deutsch' and transformed it into 'Dutch'.
Anyway, I get my last name from my Dad. He's German. |
Shawna
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 12:13 PM
It is vogue to refer to the culture as "Pennsylvania German" in the Historic Museum/Arts Community here in Lancaster County. The folk art of the Pennsylvania Germans is much better than the food!
My Dad just finished a class in the "PA Dutch" language and he learned to ask, "did you shit your pants?" Now that is some valuable information. |
melissa
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 01:17 PM
shawna where in lancaster are you??? Im dead center in the middle lol near Hacc |
Shawna
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 01:38 PM
I'm a little left of center both literally and figuratively - I live in the historic district in the city! |
Melissa
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 02:27 PM
cool we are like neighbors lol |
Shawna
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 02:32 PM
That's actually pretty weird. All this Amish and PA Dutch talk :~). I think it is hilarious because they are part of the landscape as you know. They even drive right past my house which is on a very busy street. And I'm sure you see them in Walmart and East Town Mall... and how about the Amish teenage boys trying to "pass" - AS IF anyone can tell they are not Amish!!! |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 06:16 PM
Shawna and Mellssa, you are probably too young to remember, but I recall when rt30 was nothing but a small two-lane road, well before it became the land of Neon Amish strip malls. I went to Dutch Wonderland as a child, and even then I was aghast at the concept of an Amusement Park built on an Amish Theme. I would go to Intercourse and Bird-in-Hand for hex signs and shoo-fly pie. For those of you who don't know, that area is now overpopulated with automobiles and yuppies. I've beeen on the Strasberg railroad, which is a small pleasure excursion train quite near Lancaster, as I'm sure you know. It is on an old spur, and goes down about a mile-and-a-half within Amish homesteads, and then returns. Not much of a trip. I would suggest the Tioga Central Railroad excursion train here in Wellsboro, well to your North. This line has a 22-mile round trip along our scenic mountains, for about $10 a ticket, By the way, hable usted Espanol? |
melissa
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 06:59 PM
hairy, i recently moved to Pa 5 years ago, but i have seen pictures of how lancaster used to look. WOW is all I can say. This town def. has been accomidated for tourists |
melissa
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 | 07:01 PM
ROFL shawna, i some kids in walmart with the typical amish haircut, they were hanging out trying to figure out the car stereos , but they were tryign to asct soooo unamish, i couldnt help but laugh lol |
Shawna
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 08:41 AM
I HAVE seen photos of what Lancaster used to look like and it is amazing what has happened on route 30. Hershey Park bought Dutch Wonderland last year. I live in the historic district of the city and that is just fine with me. There are some top quality tourist attractions in the city, such as the quilt museum and central market. There IS a really good Amish Run restaurant in Intercourse called the Lunch Basket. Simple but good - just like PA Dutch food! Oh and those Amish boys trying to act un-Amish are hysterical. They wear their jeans REALLY tight for some reason. :~) You can pick them out a mile away. |
Maegan
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 11:13 AM
Make fun of the Amish kids...that's it. Pick on the kids that can't help the way they are b/c their parents made them that way. Niiiiice. |
Shawna
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 11:18 AM
Their parents don't make them try to appear non-Amish. That's what's funny, get it? When they try to dress like everyone else but they are not able to hide their Amishness? It an be compared to a man dressing as a woman for Halloween, which I'm sure you have witnessed and found at least mildly funny. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 01:14 PM
One can only wonder what a "regular" guy would look like to The Amish, if he tried to pass for Amish. I would kinda like to see "City-Guy in The Amish", if only in the interest of fair play. I can see it now: "Neo-Caleb, can you go hitch the horse to the buggy?",,, "Sure, Pops... uhhh... what's a buggy?" Turnabout is fair play, no?
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Maegan
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 01:18 PM
When it's at Halloween, the person is obviously trying to create a joke. The Amish know that they are not like everyone else in the Wal-Mart, so they TRY to blend in. On Halloween, no one is trying to blend in. They are trying to conform to your idea of society, so as not to appear out of place. They can only do so much to appear like they belong. The rest is up to you. Their parents have raised them to dress a certain way, act a certain way. When they are away from the comfort of a community that is JUST like them, they try to seem at ease with their surroundings.
Imagine if you were in a new place, where your accent & manner of dress made you stand out. You'd like a little empathy. |
melissa
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 02:09 PM
Maegan give me a break. Do you live among the amish like we do? Do you deal with the rude kids and ignorant dads all the time?do you almost get run off the road because of horse an buggies? Have you ever tried eating at a nice resturant for your anniverasy at symposium and an amish family came and sat next to you STRAIGHT off the farm smelling like horse crap? Please compasion my ass. These people CHOOSE to live like this. They have the option to live in modern society and they dont, i hold no pity on them because they wont to be different. Everyone is different from one another but im not goin to hold back my comments because you say they cant help it. PLEASE thats a cop out to excuse their activities. Alot of amish and menno. have tv's radios, they drive, or get driven in a car, most have cellphones. In the summer i buy my fruit and veggies from many amish sellers, many of them have walkie talkies and other things i mentioned. Most of them arent true amish anymore, So NO i dont feel sorry for them |
Shawna
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 02:36 PM
Amen Melissa! Do the Amish eat at Symposium??? The have cell phones and computers too. The last thing the Amish want is empathy OR sympathy. Sorry, the look ridiculous when they try to act English. It's a fact and everyone in Lancaster County laughs about it. |
Shawna
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 02:39 PM
Maybe I'll dress up Amish or Mennonite and go to the mall??? Hairy, that is a great idea. I'd be a dead giveaway for English. Then the Amish can laugh at me. I'll go to the spring mud sale trying to pass. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 | 06:02 PM
I hate to raise a stink here, ladies, but it's quite common for dairy farmers to smell like manure. Here in Tioga County we have many fine folks who's "reputation proceeds them". so to speak. Whether it be omn their boots, clothes, or even work vehicles, the smell of manure permeates all they do. I have a feeling that they kinda prefer the smell of cow poop to perfume, deodorant, or air freshener, or else they have lost the ability to detect the odor upon themselves. I once did some work in a massive chicken house on the DelMarVa penninsula, and I was at once overpwered by the smell of urea. The guy who ran the place seemed to have no problem with it at all. I asked him: "Dude, how can you take that smell?".He answered in an odd, nasaly voice that made me think that the ammonia had destroyed his nasal passages: "What smell (in squeeky, nasaly voice)" I dond smeh nudding..." Guess you had to be there... or not. Hey, leave those boots on the porch, stinky |
Shawna
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Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 | 08:26 AM
It is common knowledge that the Amish "stink" but I myself have never really noticed. Perhaps my olefactory sensations are dead? Once I noticed body odor on an Amish girl but it was not offensive to me. They are who they are. Living in Lancaster County - I think - a lot of us love the smell of manure in the spring. Most of us respect the Amish for living the way they do. The horse and buggy thing can get annoying and dangerous because of impatient English drivers, however, all in all it is a completely peaceful coexistence. They really do mostly keep to themselves. I often wonder if that is because they want to remain separate from our worldly ways or if it is the language barrier or a little of both.
And one more thing - No one would ever make fun of teenaged Amish boys in Rumspringa who try to pass for Englsih openly. I know for myself I always go right along with it. It IS humorous because there is no denying their ethnic heritage and the buggy parked outside really gives it away!
Everyone but new home builders have enormous respect for the Amish because they are buying up every acre of farmland they can - thereby preserving SOME of it from Smurf Village housing developments and preventing sprawl.
The Amish are cool. |
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