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Lothar Ignatius
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 | 03:53 PM
I think it's real. There are certainly a number of Pro-Ana sites available on the web (AOL and Yahoo shut down all on it's servers 2 years ago) and theres nothing about the site to suggest that it is anything other than part of this social phenomena... |
Spinelli
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 | 06:45 PM
It's real, and it's just one of thousands of pro-ana/pro-mia/pro-ed websites out there designed to act as a sounding board for practitioners and supporters of anorexia, bulimia and other eating disorders. Most of them claim that such behaviors are not indicative of a disease or disorder, but are simply a way of life that should not be judged. To a certain degree, this makes sense: people with eating disorders, which are most common in adolescent girls and in young women who have just left home, deserve a place to communicate with others and to share their experiences.
However, if you delve a little deeper into the sites, they go from slightly disturbing (advocating dangerous levels of nutritional limitation in order to obtain and maintain society's ideal of thinness) to incredibly sad (nonchalant reports of suicide attempts, body mutilation and tips on hiding extreme weight loss from family and friends). The sites are covered in "thinspirational" images of emaciated female figures and sometimes even galleries of massively obese people meant to encourage the fear of being fat. Lists of "safe foods" and tips on convincing others that you have eaten when you have not are commonplace.
Really, it's quite disturbing. As a person struggling with an eating disorder, this sites can be a form of painful comfort: it's good to know that others are going through the same thing, but it's more detrimental than helpful to the overall process of recovery to see these people destroying their own lives and presenting their techniques to others as a legitimately healthy lifestyle. |
B
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 | 02:31 AM
The thing is, these sites can make the illness alot less scary and despairing for people. They will do it anyway, except that having these sites helps them to ward off depression and other self damaging behaviours. Anorexia is all about control - and its a hell of a journey to get it. These sites kind of help gain that without all the hardship - who knows, a quicker trip to the path of perfection might mean a quicker recovery. |
JanieTyler
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 | 11:44 AM
I don't think there's anything wrong with pro-ana sites. I mean, they're not gonna turn someone healthy into an anorexic. They do keep girls with ED's from cutting or even suicide because they no longer feel alone. |
CT
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 | 12:17 PM
There is something wrong in that they perpetuate the cycle of the disorder and make people believe it is ok rather than helping them out of it.
As for the "quicker path to perfection" being a quicker path to recovery -- how does that work? Their image of perfection is bone thin which generally leads to death rather than the feeling that they should recover. |
Addie
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 | 04:44 PM
im anorexic and there is nothing wrong with those sites or eating disorders and i think it is ery wrong for people like yall to judge us with out knowing about it |
Spinelli
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 | 06:22 PM
I'd like to point out that I never once attacked anorexics or said that pro-ed sites are inherently bad; I said that, while they are often a good place for those with eating disorders to share and receive support, they can be detrimental to the overall process of recovery. True, these sites are very unlikely to convince a healthy person to develop an eating disorder (as most healthy people would find these sites frightening and at best sociologically interesting), but they are *very* likely to push someone at the cusp of an eating disorder over the edge into a full-fledged problem. Many of the people who post on these sites may simply be attempting to obtain a thin ideal through food control, but many more are honestly ill. Attempting to hide this fact is damaging in more ways than one, to both the pro-ana and anti-ana communities. |
Addie
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 | 11:12 PM
personally i dont think it is an illness more like a lifestyle what is the problem with the way we choose to lose weight is no different then taking diet pills or ne other way to lose weight |
CT
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 | 12:44 AM
I also never attacked anorexics, it is just not necessarily healthy.
There is nothing wrong with trying to lose weight, everybody does it. But the definition of anorexia is the refusal to maintain a HEALTHY body weight to the point of having a nervous fear of eating. When it becomes that is when I feel it is unhealthy and a problem....
Promoting anorexia isn't good for people who are "at the cusp", but there is nothing wrong with promoting body weight maintenance in healthy ways. |
Addie
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 | 01:15 PM
and may i ask who says its an unhealthy way? wat you people seem to think is that we NEVER eat and your WRONG we go through fasting and then eat small amounts of food no more than 700 calories. im not seeing the harm in wat we do. |
CT
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 | 02:54 AM
The APA and CPA say it's unhealthy.
Like I said, fine if you want to reduce calories or do whatever, but when your body starts to shut itself down and become damaged is then it's unhealthy....hence I feel it's unhealthy to promote anorexia, though I don't feel it's unhealthy to support/promote weight loss. |
Crystal
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 | 10:01 PM
Im anerexic and i fully support those sites. What i say u probably think is wrong.. But when your anerexic, u dont want to give up... but sometymes you do.. and when that happens..(well for me any ways .. ) i throw up. So which is worse?? But with the support of those sites.. u feel like theres other people that know what ur going through.. and i for one go to those sites and have met many other anerexics there. Ana and mia sites are fyne. What i want to know.. is why are people without eating disorders looking this up? Thats kindof stupid.. If you seriously think that u can get an eating disorder from the sites.. ur a dumass .. because eating disorders come from the inside to the out.. they dont come from a site.. |
Melody
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Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 | 10:04 PM
Thats true...
Im anerexic too and i support those sites. Theres no reason for people without eating disorders to go there.. so if they "suposably" develope an eating disorder from a site.. they obviously were looking forward to.. |
Addie
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 | 10:40 PM
i completly agree with you girls if they are out there searching for pro ana or mia sites they abviously have been looking into a lil more seriously then yall seem to think. pro ana sites promote the lifestyle we choose to live and web site has made that decision for us they just help us find people who have the same veiws and ideas as we do!! whats wrong with that??
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Laila
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 | 09:25 PM
It's anorexic, not anerexic. I have an ED, and it does give comfort to me to see these sites, but I also feel that the younger generation doesn't see that these are EDs, and think that ana is just another diet. I don't think that people get eating disorders from pro-ana sites, but I do think that it is seen as just another fad diet for the easily manipulated. I don't want to see people making EDs trivial, because they think it's a good way to loose weight. It really isn't a trivial matter. I am pro-ana, but at the same time, i don't want ana to become just another "diet". |
Loo
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 | 09:57 PM
I love these websites and would actually like to find more. I have only found two with any valuable information. If you have any good websites with tips please tell me! |
Jess
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 | 12:48 AM
http://realm2-blessedbe.com/StarvingForPerfection/Ana/AnaIndex.html thats my personal favorite pro-ana site. The first site listed at the top has a bunch of links too. |
Jess
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 | 12:52 AM
B when you said that it makes the illness a lot less scary its really not. People who are pro-ana believe that there anorexia is a lifestyle that they choose to live wereas ed-ana's think that their anorexia is a disease that they did not choose to have but can't seem to break away. |
haden
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 | 04:44 PM
I agree with spinelli...
as a non-ED afflicted person, i feel that these sights do give some support to those affected by the disorder, but in my research (for university...) i have come across two very different types of sites. i must also point out that i have only done research on female sights...
1- the sites of anorexic girls who are crying for help in battling this disorder that they cannot stop.
2- the sites of 'pro-ana' girls who give out tips on how to avoid eating for days, their 'thinspiration' pictures and so on.
It is true that an unaffected person (like myself..) will not be enticed to starve ourselves by visiting these sights, but for a girl who is 'borderline' i find that some of them can potentially dangerous in fuelling their desires for being extremely thin. i have personally found many of these sights to be extremely disturbing. I will not judge those who choose not to eat, but please, do not put yourself in a harmful situation where in worst cases, you might die. |
shyt
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 | 04:44 PM
i weigh 225 pounds!!! How do I become anarexic. Im addicted to food , better than sex. |
Lauren
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 | 01:30 AM
I have the same problem as you shyt. I do not wish to starve myself to death, but I need to learn how to not eat until I get to a healthy weight. I weigh almost 200 pounds and my cholesterol is 310. I have many weight related health problems that impair my daily life. I used to be thin. I don't feel like myself anymore. I just want to be thin again. |
Breanne
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 | 06:16 AM
I am a recovered anorexic that struggles every day not to relapse. Those sites are a scary thing that just encourage young women to further ruin their lives. They encourage them to ignore the signs their body is giving them that it's dying. Addie, get some help. I got drug into recovery kicking and screaming. It turned out to be the best thing that ever happened to me. There's an awesome life outside of Ana just waiting to be lived. I gaurantee it's much more fun too! |
Breanne
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 | 06:19 AM
Also, anorexia makes most people gain weight in the end! Now that I am healthy I look WAY better, and my metabolism works! If you guys want to lose weight, start a solid excercise program with a HEALTHY diet. I promise, it may seem like more work in the end, but it's much more rewarding! |
Jessica
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 | 03:39 PM
Ummm trust me it is not more work. Starving yourself is hard but if you want it that bad you will get it basically and shyt trust me ask any anorexic and they will tell you to not become an anorexic it really does suck and its not jsut something that you can just suddenly have its a disease and something in your life has to happen were it makes you turn to this so you can;t just decide to become ana it doesn't work that way. |
Laila
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 | 09:39 PM
Honestly, life with an ED is absolute hell. |
Breanne
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 | 04:42 AM
I never disagreed. I was miserable very minute. |
Angel
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 | 02:56 AM
My name is angel and i have a big prob i have been cutting myself for about a year now and i cant stop i dont no what to do with myself any more i cant go have fun or do any thing bc i keep hurting myself i think that my parents are starting to come on to what i am doing but if they find out im scared that some thing bad is going to happen how do i stop do this i wish i could just have some one help me if u could help me and talk to me threw this plz email me my email is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) some one plz help im just so scared that one day i am going to go to deep and not be here but some times i really wish that would just happen |
fuh-Q
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 | 08:45 PM
i think this pro ana bashing is bulls*** i have an eating disorder and it's just my way of life, i'm not in hell!!! i enjoy the feeling of an empty tummy!!! |
Angel
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 | 01:18 AM
I dont no if i am at the right web site for alll this stuff i have been saying but some one email me ok so i can have some one to talkt o that wont think im a freak
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Laila
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 | 10:05 PM
Angel, the fact that you admit you have a problem is the first step to recovering. If you can find someone close to you, who you trust, fess up to them. If you don't have anyone, there are treatment centers pretty much anywhere. SI is pretty common, and there are support groups to deal with cutting and such, same as EDs. I don't know if that helped at all, but best of luck to you. |
Laila
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 | 10:25 PM
And F.,
I'm not bashing pro-ana. As I said before, I enjoy pro-ana sites, and believe that they should exist. It temporarily relieves me of my loneliness. I'm just trying to get people to understand I have a disease, and you do too, if you have an ED as well, and people cannot just "catch" it. I am not promoting my disease to anyone, and I hope you don't view it as something that should be available to the masses. Maybe I have a hideous attitude about it, but I suppose that I view it as something selective, and <elitist.> in a morbid, idiotic sort of way. I cannot describe my views any other way, and mean no offense. I "enjoy" hunger pains, and fasting, but it consumes me. I guess I don't know how much longer I can allow myself to dwell only on my weight. It takes up most of my day... |
Angel
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 | 12:09 AM
Lalia Thank u
I kno that i need to find some one to trust and tell but its not that easy i really dont have any one so that is why i was looking for some one to help me on here bc if i tell my parent i will be put away and then i really will HAVE NO ONE at all |
fuh-Q
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 | 03:41 AM
laila,
i feel the same way i do not want to promote anorexia to anyone, i just feel that i don't need to recover, people say "she suffers from anorexia" but thats not true i don't suffer! i enjoy it. and i enjoy them too, for the same reason, and no its not "hidious" but i think if people don't like pro-ana and pro-mia sites then they shouldn't visit them, SIMPLE!! |
Laila
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 | 04:33 PM
Angel, If you tell your parents about the cutting, then you won't be alone. Keeping this secret about your SI makes you alone. If you have to go to treatment center, then you will find many people like you who also surrer from SI. Trust me, you won't be alone if you go into treatment. Best wishes. |
Angel
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 | 11:49 PM
Yea but if i tell some one i am really going to be alone bc my parent are going to put me away and then i really will have no one so i think im going to have to keep it to myself
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Laila
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 | 12:32 PM
Angel, It's really your choice, but I think you understand what you have to do if you really want to recover. You won't be "put away", you will go to a treatment center, or even just to talk to a counselor about your issues. The choice is totally yours, and you have to decide what you value most. Good luck to you. |
Angel
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 | 03:51 AM
Thanks so much laila i will put some thinking into that but i told some one today and they said that i would not be put away they are just going to tell my parents so i dont have to and then she is going to tell my parent that all i need is some one to talk to thanks so much u have been a really big help
Good luck to u all
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Angel
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 | 05:03 AM
Well i got help and i dont need any ones help any more so i wont be back here i hope the best of luck to all of u guys and gurls ok
Angel |
Wit
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 | 08:00 AM
Hey guys! I am anorexic....by the way you don't have to know how to spell the word to be it....and I am a proud supporter of pro anorexia and pro bulimia sites. I am so proud that me best friend and I created our own, which has become a very popular, close community. It is member- by- request, you have to contact me through the e- mail addy on the guest page. When you do, include your reason for joining, the username you want, and where you heard about us from. The URL is http://lostfaerie.proboards37.com/. Hope you enjoy! Oh, and for those of you who are against pro ana and insist on joining, please make your complaints in the "Anti- Ana" section and no where else. Laterz!
Wit |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 | 07:15 AM
Wow...I didn't even know stuff like this existed.
Personally, I think it's freakish & weird.
Also...this is not a help board. If you are having issues medically or mentally you should be contacting professionals. coolnurse.com has a lot of help topics for these issues, especially for teens. I have no way of knowing how old any of you post'rs are...but I do get the feeling that most of you are still under some sort of parental supervision. No teen really thinks they can talk to their parents. That's understandable. You won't really understand until you have your own kids & by the time they are teens you'll see that the behavior you are going through now is immature and childish. Hindsight is 20/20 folks. Get some help, but you're probably not gonna get it here. Unless you're convinced big foot is causing your problems anyway...
::ding ding:: order's up! Fries to go. |
jenny
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 | 04:31 AM
I have a normal body. why? because i don't eat the garbage you americans eat. when i see your sacks of bones you call your bodies, i see the level of depravity this country came to, and one of the reasons is that the sacredness of cooking has been replaced by the ingurgitation of fat and sugar. to stop eating and celebrating it is not only sick, it is devil worship at its most obvious. dont think about eating, think about making with your hands something worth of being eaten. |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 | 08:53 AM
"The sacredness of cooking"? Ingurgitation? Somebody got a Recipe a Day calendar.
Please explain how "stop eating and celebrating it" is devil worship. It's rather less obvious to me I'm afraid. I'm just too dense to see it.
I'm also curious about your body. You call ours "sacks of bones". Does yours not contain bones? How do you maintain an upright stance?
Thank you in advance for your response. |
Nick
in Merrie Olde Englande
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 | 09:02 AM
Hasn't the 'Hardcore Bones' picture under the 'Thinspirationals' already been on this site as a Hoax photo? |
Jenny
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 | 07:53 PM
The Pro Anorexia discourse is pure Nazism. The difference is that in this case one is one's own camp guard and the starved victim. The insistence on "will" is not so different from the "will" to conquer and subjugate. The obssession with one's own looks is diabolocal and I will explain why:
The devil is not a goat worshipped by satanists, it is the basic lie who snares the mind into identifiying itself with a static image, narcissism. One becomes like a pyramid, grandiose work of the will, housing nothing more than a slowly rotting corpse. the soul of the anorexic is a corpse. |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 | 08:40 AM
Thank you. I'm now thoroughly confused by your "poetry".
By the way, you didn't answer the "sack of bones" question. I look forward to you're response. |
Kyoku
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 | 08:04 PM
Dear Shyt, you don't become anorexic. It is just the way one is. Most of it comes from being obsessive compulsive or having a problem with needing to have control over something in your life. I don't recommend you try to force yourself to be anorexic. Though I do recommend you lose weight, try not to become obsessed with it. As a person with Ana myself, I am not saying anything bad about people with anorexia, it just isn't for everyone. |
BugbearSloth
in earth, 3rd planet, sol system
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 12:26 AM
I don't know whether or not this site is a hoax. All I know is that the blonde chick on the front page is really hot and has a nice rack. |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 10:25 AM
...So it's just the way you are? Like being born blonde or having an overbite?? I find that a little difficult to swallow. |
Projectmayhem
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 06:11 PM
Fact: Anorexia Nervosa is a diagnosed psychological disorder, in the realm of clinical depression and the like. It's not going to happen to people who are not predisposed to it, and won't heppen unless the right factors set it off. The problem with anorexia is that it is rewarded by society. Take a look at the TV, the "thin is in" mentality is parroted everywhere we look. Unlike depression which has no incentive, anorexia rewards its sufferers with slimmer bodies and more attention from the opposite sex etc.
Fact: The body has certain requirements to continue living. These include but are not limited to protein (9 essential amino acids), carbohydrates, fatty acids, and more. If for some reason your bodsy doesn't get as much as it needs, it starts salvaging parts for daily maintenance from living cells. This weakens the immune system, degrades muscles, bones, and even your central nervous system. Everyone should be familar with the pictures of the African children with the enlarged bellies, that comes from kwashiorkor, a disease that occurs when a person doesn't get enough protein and water end up pooling in the belly. There are serious consequences to anorexia that may not even manifest themselves for years. It all goes back to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, "Every action has an equal and opposite reaction."
Opinion: The pro-ana sites have a right to exist, let people fill their brains with whatever they choose to. In my mind the pro-ana sites are no different than freerepublic and others. It's like a child playing peek-a-boo: it's not there if you don't see it. Honestly, I don't care if someone starves themselves to death, that's their choice. I just get frustrated with the fact that tax dollars are spent to combat anorexia, and the afflictees have these uninformed opinions available to them to forget scientific fact and respectable science. |
jenny
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 07:43 PM
How does the "sack of bones" appear?
A fine teenager, insecure about what to eat or not, insecure about everything, about her changing body, her desires, troubled by the eyes of men, troubled by the saturnalia of junk food thrown at her by that evil screen of the tv set,decides to take control of her life: she will control what will come into her mouth. the control, for one reason or another becomes obssession and turns more severe. The body begins to starve. It begins to eat its own fat, after all the fat is gone, then the muscles are partially consumed and the result is this: a bag of skin over a skeleton with very little padding.
In short, a ruin of a person.
How somebody with such an affliction could wish this to another is beyond my comprehension. That one is so deluded as to think such a curse is a "life-style", that a person could be so callous as to advise another on how to become addicted to the strange cocktail of endorfins generated by a brain trying to cope with starvation, and the other consequences of anorexia, is monstruous. In my opinion, as bad as starving other people. |
Reynard Muldrake
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 | 11:39 PM
What a bunch of fucking morons. God, I hate humanity. |
Jenny
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 | 04:17 AM
you hate humanity probably because humanity ignores you. Should'nt it? |
joeodd
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 | 05:46 AM
these sites are kind of odd and especially creepy, being a "hippy liberal" i like to think people can do what they like to themselves but sometimes you feel like you should step in, i think this site is a sorry example of a sad state of a society where there is an obesity epidemic yet thiness is seen as a great virtue,
still, theres allways something messed up anywhere isnt there? |
Dangel
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 | 10:03 PM
At the oppposite end of the spectrum is Fat Girlfriends
Interesting that both pro and con comments are listed on the site. |
Jenny
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 12:19 AM
Where are you Ch?
We are facing a fabulous task, which, as matter of fact has began already some time ago; the creation of a new civilization. It will not be radically different from ours in most aspects, but it will be its own kind, with its own set of values. It is a moral imperative and perhaps even a logical necessity, however, that this new civilization be better than the former, that is, more civilized.
This task, at the individual level, consists in two actions: The knowledge of the values and aspirations of this civilization.
Second: The implementation, on the measure of the possible of these values.
Now, my friends, what do you think those values are? |
Jenny
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 12:37 AM
The most important task for boys and girls, right now, is to be good to their parents. It is essencial, that in revolutionary fervor, all children and young people in general, be very kind to their own parents. In the beginning it may be difficult given the defects of some parents, but in subsequent genarations, things may get easier. Once children learn to be kind to their own parents, it becomes much easier for them to be equally kind to their own children later on. And of course, that would facilitate the task of their children as well: lovable peolple are easier to love.
I could go on and on, but I should perhaps write a book instead. |
Reynard Muldrake
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 04:24 AM
Thanks for your soul moving insight, Jenny. And kindly go fuck yourself. |
Reynard Muldrake
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 04:26 AM
I just want to clarify...my last comment was in response to what you said to me. As for your last two posts, I just don't know what the hell you're talking about. |
Jenny
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 07:58 AM
Your last two comments are short and to the point. You seem to possess a sharp intellect but you do not seem to be sexually satisfied. Beware, lack of sex can make one bitter in the absence of a spiritual life. I will pray for you, and even more intensely to your father, who really need it.
Dont thank me. |
SC
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 | 02:27 PM
I am a member of PS. First of all I just want to say that we do not view this as |
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