Upside-Down Christmas Trees

Keisha Roberson said:

"That is okay because Jesus Christ and the God the Father will have the final say during the Great White Throne Judgment!"

Can you ask your two boys to hurry the Final Judgment up? It would help me save a TON of money on Christmas presents.

Christians should learn to embrace 'Xmas' and the 'upside-down Christmas tree'. The only reason this is even a topic is because of narrow minded Christians

This is in response to the comment posted by bottle--Dec 12. That is the problem we as Christians have embraced to much of the world. W And thats why there are so many weak-minded Christians today. If we can't stand now for Christ-how are we going to stand when the Great Tribulation comes? Satan of course is having a comedy showlooking at how we latch on to him through the things he promotes. I don't recall when Christ went to the cross on behalf of us the cross being upside down.

I don't recall when Christ went to the cross on behalf of us the cross being upside down. - Keisha

Oh, you were there?

Nobody knows what crosses used for crucifixion looked like. It's possible there was no one fixed shape in use. They may have used X shaped ones, T shaped ones, or + in addition to the

Keisha Roberson said:

"I don't recall when Christ went to the cross on behalf of us the cross being upside down."

As a matter of fact, one of the saints was allegedly crucified upside-down because he said he wasn't worthy of dying the same way as Christ. You Jeezo-worshipper really need to know your fairy tale better than you do. I don't even believe this nonsense and I know the story better than you do. Sheesh.

This is in response to Cranky Media Guy. Thats right I am a JESUS WORSHIPPER!And proud to be one! Saint Who? Check your facts--All the saints were of paganism origin. I don't recall any saints alongside Jesus when he hung from the rugged cross. Since you think the Bible is such a fairy tale--why dont you try going beyond your ignorance and begin reading the 4 Gospels--in the New Testatment--maybe you will learn something that a fairytale can't tell you!!!!!!

Keisha Roberson said:

"This is in response to Cranky Media Guy. Thats right I am a JESUS WORSHIPPER!And proud to be one! Saint Who? Check your facts--All the saints were of paganism origin."

Oh? That's fascinating. Gee, the Catholic Church sure seems to be under the impression that saints are Christian. You, of course, know better. *laugh*

"I don't recall any saints alongside Jesus when he hung from the rugged cross."

Where did I say that the saint who was crucified upside-down was alongside Jesus? If I remember my Catholic school teaching, the two other guys on crosses alongside Jesus were supposedly thieves, one of whom accepted Christ's divinity while dying and is therefore known as the "good thief."

"Since you think the Bible is such a fairy tale--why dont you try going beyond your ignorance and begin reading the 4 Gospels--in the New Testatment--maybe you will learn something that a fairytale can't tell you!!!!!!"

Well, I HAVE read the Gospels. The Gospels are PART OF THE BIBLE as is the entire New Testament so I don't get your point here. It's all a fairytale, in my opinion.

Like I said, I'm not a believer and I seem to know your book better than you do.

According to many internet sites I've seen these upside down trees originated in early German Christianity because the more Pagan Yule traditions used rightside up trees and they wanted to distinguish the Christian from the Pagan, and also because 17th century monks used triangular fir trees to explain the Trinity (don't exactly see how that one fits in) but who really knows for sure. I bet they are Satanists marking their homes so the devil will know which homes are truly Christain.

I think Keisha Roberson should not say anything else about this. You claim to be a "Christian" and rudely defend its truth, yet your actions do not give any indication that you truly believe it. Doesn't the Bible say "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and "a meek answer turns away wrath"? Instead of trying to show others what you believe through your actions, you make obnoxious, arrogant, condescending comments informing others of their flaws. I think you should take the log out of your own eye before pointing out the speck in someone else's.

Yule is the holiest of all the Germanic feasts. The name is too old for its meaning to be easily traced, but the most common guesses derive it from a root meaning 'wheel', perhaps related to the wheel of the Sun herself, as seen by the sun-wheels which were sometimes burnt in Germany as part of folk-festivities at this time. Yule is the season at which the gods and goddesses are closest to Midgard: our deities were called 'Yule-Beings' by the Norse, a title which survived among the Lapps at least until 1674; and Odin himself is called 'J

I just thought it was fitting that a pagan comment on a pagan tradition...the yule tree and yule in general, which was stolen by the Christians, like hundreds of other things.

If you don't believe that, you need to do your research.

Oh, and another thing...it's pretty irritating when something which is not seen as Christian and just happens to be pagan is always associated with Satan. Most pagans don't even believe in Satan! We don't believe in hell either! Those are Christian concepts!

What is wrong with you people?

I was just searching for a Christmas Tree on the Kmart website and I saw and upside down tree, selling for $149. I immediately thought it was a joke. So I started looking for information about the upside down tree and came across this website. I totally agree with Alex. That tree gives me an erie feeling like the upside down cross. To creepy for Christmas.

Cranky Media Guy don't rush the judgement because if you have not accepted the Lord as you're personal savior you will get your reward. (Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.)

So there, Cranky. It's good to see you getting your comeuppance. Maybe now you'll mend you sinful ways. 😉

Yeah, Chary, they sure told ME, didn't they?

"Cranky Media Guy don't rush the judgement because if you have not accepted the Lord as you're personal savior you will get your reward."

I think YOU should accept Strunk and White as YOUR personal Saviors. Google for them and find out what they can do for YOU.

I'd like to know where the upside down tree has to do with anything other than being differant. a convertation piece.something for goofe people. i saw one yasterday, for the first time. i loved it! not one thaught of Satan came to mind! if you're any kind of "christian" you'll know that GOD knows what you're thinking! He is even bigger than Santa! if Santa wants to stand on his head, its cool. even God.whos to say he doesn't stand on his head? what the hell does that have to do with anything? he has to have a sence of humor. look at all the nutballs he braught into the world. like the negative ones on this sight. the upside down tree at Macys is beautiful and unique. its not even for sale. they told me to try the net.i think the price is so high because it is something differant, unique. Humm, commin sence??? if its to cheap, to many people will have one. Macys said they have had it for years, for display only! some of these coments are obsurd! I'm useing one of the fake trees i have from years past and converting it. its sort of fun.i'm standing on my head to do it! OH NO! SATAN! happy holidays!

Pope Peter & the Moon

by God

Decipherer

I appologize to those who think an upside down tree is satanic. But in all honesty between being a space saver and that of a way to display family heirlooms or present day decoration, nothing can compair. Yes my house looks like santa's house if he were to win the lottery. I have spent years collecting and refining decorations. My husband has bought elaborate perfume bottle type ornaments that we have now hooked up to motors and I am looking for a way to display them. This is without a doubt the perfect way since they can hang without hinderance. When you have something beautiful you WANT to show it off. Plus I am know for having a different outlook on life and this is a reflection of me.

upside down christmas trees were used back in the middle ages to represent the Trinity

I've got an idea, we can eat christmas dinner under the dinner table this year. Oh and while we are changing normal traditions to ludicrous, let's wear our pants with the zipper in back.

A lot of Christian traditions come from the Pagans. I won't go in great detail, but Christmas tree is one, and Martin Luther decided to start that ones for Christmas. He thought they looked beautiful out there, and then the snow twinkling, so he put candles on there (which fire hazard comes to mind.) So I guess that is why when lights came into the picture thats why we use the lights.

The upside down tree has nothing to do with Satan, just as much as Satanists use upside down crosses is stupid. St. Peter refused to be crucified like Jesus, not worthy, so he was hung upside down on and upside down cross. So go figure.

So in the middle ages they would hang the Christmas trees upside down not being satantists, but because of the Trinity.

Also, it shows off the ornaments better, and saves space.

You all are missing the larger picture. This is nothing more than one more step in the attack against Christians. History, origins, blah, blah, blah. Turn the Menorah upside down. Have the Muslims face South. Exact same thing.

Merry CHRISTmas, y'all...

-Shawn

Why would one be disturbed as a christian since the catholic church in order to recruit pagans into the church made concessions to incorporate some insignificant traditions as long as they didn't go against the scriptures.

If one uses the tree in any fashion he desires it should be OK as long as it does not go against Gods word.If it is not used as a thing of worship or does not disgrace God and is done to honor him I see no problem here.We are to do all things to please God, and in all things bringing honor unto him.
Yes certian things are in the bible that don't pertain to today like mixing of seed and fibers but these are metaphors to the seed of the Jews that are not to be mixed with the non-Jews as the christian should not be unequilly yoked with the unbeliever.
Since in those days the proper handling of meats and the microscopic diseases wern't known by man. There were things that prevented disease and were of precautionary measure at the time.
Although God never changes and is allways the same he sees the things we don't and knows things we can't see or imagine.What we see or know is a dimly lit amount of knowledge to his greatness and wisdom of intelect.
Be not dismayed at these things but do all things for his glory and he will see and aprove of you and will give you rewards in heavon.
Merry Christmas and God Bless.Remember Jesus in your holidays and every day and Love one another as he Loves us.

this tree is sooo ugly

One of the most unusual traditions of Eastern Europe is the way that a Christmas tree was placed in a home.

From Krakow to the Carpathian Highlands, it was displayed point down.

It is thought that the term "Doing something the Polish way" originated from the display of these trees.

Legend says that England's St. Boniface used the triangular shape of the Fir Tree to describe the Holy Trinity of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

By the 12th century it was being hung, upside-down, from ceilings at Christmastime in Eastern Europe, as a symbol of Christianity and God the Son becoming man.

Martin Luther is said to have decorated a small Christmas tree with candles to show his children how the stars twinkled through the dark and holy night.

The early trees were biblically symbolic of the Paradise Tree in the Garden of Eden. Food and flowers were used to decorate the tree.

The many food items were symbols of plenty.

The flowers, originally only red for knowledge and white for innocence completed the tree.

It is thought that the colors of red and green for Christmas originated from this tradition. Red flowers on a green tree.

The ancient Polish custom was to hang from the ceiling in a central position with the topmost part of a spruce tree, upside down, and to decorate doorways and wall with separate boughs of the same tree.

It is the peak of an evergreen, suspended upside down from the ceiling or rafters point-side-down and decorated with fruit, nuts and sweets in shimmering wrappings, with decorations made of foods, straw, oplatek, and gold-painted spruce cones that made Christmas special.

In the Krakow region, they decorated a hanging upside down top a pine tree with apples, nuts, pears, and ginger breads.

Beginning the day after Christmas these delicacies could be eaten by children and carolers.

Maybe we have all been putting our Christmas trees up the wrong way for all our lives.
http://www.iarelative.com/xmas/upside.htm

ok, going to wade in here, with high hipped waders

one, the symbolism of the upside down tree, goes back to the Bronze Age; some trunks have been found turned upside down and buried with the roots sticking out of the ground; this 'seems' to be part of a pan Europe tradition that was related to ancestor worship, and the idea that the after life was beneath us.

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2nd, the upside down tree tradition, is definitely pre christian, and european in origin. lost to British culture because of the invasions of the first Millenium; but not to the Eastern European Slavic and Germanic Peoples. anyone who knows their Christian History understands that there was a split between Rome and Constantinople; the Roman Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox Church, approximately 1500 years ago, and they both have different traditions and ways of worship and celebration of Christ's (that is greek for Messiah, which is hebrew for The Annointed One of Jehovah) Life, who should really be called Yahshuah ben Joseph or Yahweh, depending on how you believe. the countries from the Baltics, down through Poland and the Balkans, where the Slavic people stopped their migration west, seems to be where the Upside-down Tree had it's longest cultural stand. I would bet it has something to do with the split in the Church. the days of killing other Christians because they worship differently are gone. America was founded on the principal that all people were free to worship their GOD in what ever way the felt was appropriate, and there is no place in Christianity for the Bigotry that I have seen expressed here. the NON-Believers have put the Christians who have commented here, to shame, by their tolerance of differences and their Knowledge of the Bible and the History of Christianity.
but third, and foremost, I agree with the Pagan girl Adrienne, (sorry if the spelling is incorrect), this tree has absolutely nothing to do with Satanism. upside down, sideways, or stuck in the chimmney. it is a tree, and WAS used as a means of spreading the Christian Message 100's of years ago; SOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY ARE THE CHRISTIANS ARGUING ABOUT IT: because they simply have latched onto THEIR TRADITIONS and made them A LAW, ABOVE GOD; which is just what Jesus came to change in Judaism.
I am a Christian, and have been for close to 45 years, born again, Spirit Filled, Tongue Talking, Prophet, and I SEE NOTHING WRONG IN THIS TREE, get real folks, it is just a tree, and in todays society doesn't have the same weight of meaning as it would 400 years ago, when you could be burnt alive for being different. or, is it true, as some Pagans believe, that we are headed for another BURNING TIME.

I agree with one thing, Schnee. We ARE headed for another "burning time" but not the way you mean. This country is going to hell in a handbasket. It's a shame that that basket is being carried around by some like you who claim the office of prophet and all that, but who stick up for paganism and etc.! Although the tree itself is not relevant, the spirit behind the twisted concept is relevant. I figured you'd see that, since you claim to be so Spiritual.

I have a beautiful black upside down tree which i think is very 'cool'. I am a Christian and feel that I am turning paganism around as it was a pagan form of worship. They turned the cross upside down so why can't we do the same to the tree?
I love it. It takes up less space and hangs much better than a traditional one.
No one likes change do they?

We have an upside down Christmas tree and love it. But I am dismayed by the display of total intolerance, hate, stupidity and outright "feel-good" superiority of some of you "Christian" people. Anything different or against your narrow and hateful value system is derided, ridiculed and made fun of. You hide behind your "Christianity" and spout your venom without a thought.
Open your eyes (and hearts) you self-serving jerks who wouldn't know Christ's message if it bit them on the bum.

We have an upside down Christmas tree and love it. But I am dismayed by the display of total intolerance, hate, stupidity and outright "feel-good" superiority of some of you "Christian" people. Anything different or against your narrow and hateful value system is derided, ridiculed and made fun of. You hide behind your "Christianity" and spout your venom without a thought.
Open your eyes (and hearts) you self-serving jerks who wouldn't know Christ's message if it bit them on the bum.



WOW! Pherfinion, your quote above simply shows your own hatefulness.
Yes, I'm intolerant of attacks on Christianity. You go right ahead and tolerate whatever you want to. But I will speak up anytime I wish.

What is wrong with an upside down Christmas tree? It has nothing to do with Satan. The reason they say it saves space is because There is more room underneath for gifts. People need to stop being so ignorant and leave things alone they don't like.


http://www.christmasarchives.com/trees.html

http://www.inglewoodcarecentre.com/history/christmastree.htm


Everyone should really do their homework before thinking they are smart enough to give an answer...

:coolmad: this tree has to be the dumbest idea ever!! 🧛 we used this from a translator. christmas trees arent meant to hang upside down. this was just rredicuous!! it will fall over and land on your four year old child. she was severely injured and thought the tree was too ugly to put up anyways. so f*** you!!

i love upside down christmas trees. im glad your kid got attacked by a christmas tree. you must have not put it up right. you probably didnt read the instructions either!! 🐛 if you have any other kids i hope they too get attacked by an upside down christmas tree!! 🐍 have a lovely day 😊)

Wow, first of all, many of the comments on here should be X-rated, or maybe "R"-rated for RETARD!! People who feel compelled to cuss to make their point just show what a terribly limited vocabulary they really have. Not to mention that it does absolutely NOTHING to promote your perspective. Anywaaaaay, let me say this about the upside down tree -- in the end, it really doesn't MATTER. Jesus was born of a virgin, he died on a cross for payment of our sins, he rose again, and he's coming back again. No other person ever HAS or ever WILL, and it was prophesied in the Old Testament hundreds of times before he was even born. NONE of this is changed by a Christmas tree, no matter WHAT shape or direction it's pointing! People thru the ages have tried in vain to "kill" Christianity and negate/discredit Jesus. They have failed every single time and will continue to fail because God's word never returns void and His plan cannot be "foiled" by man. So, ha, do what you want with your "holiday tree" -- God is still in control!