Status: Undetermined (but I'm guessing fake)
Nike has
a new ad featuring Brazilian soccer star Ronaldinho Gaucho. In the ad Ronaldinho puts on a pair of Nikes, juggles the ball a few times, and then kicks the ball towards the goal so that it hits the crossbar and bounces directly back to him. He does this four times in a row. And it's all shot in a single take. This has inspired a lot of discussion on the net, because it's hard to believe anyone could be skilled enough to do this. In
an article posted on the BBC (in Portuguese... I read it via AltaVista Translate) Ronaldinho swears that the scene is real, although the reporters interviewing him refuse to believe him. Given that it's an ad, I would assume it's fake, since one should always assume that what you see in ads is bogus, unless it's proven otherwise.
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"Dang it! Four tries in a row and he still can't make a goal! And we're all out of film! Oh well, we'll just go with what we've got."
Ronaldinho Ga
Sorry, don't think any soccer player could hit the cross bar that many times from that distance.
1) In the 1940's and even into the 1950's, players used to bet on who hitted the POSTS/CROSSBARS more times during a match, just to get the public "excited". The most they got was three to five per game.
2) Ronaldinho has super skills, but ...
3) ... with ROUND posts/crossbar it is close to impossible to return four consecutive shots back to him. It is a matter of a fraction of an inch variance ...
Square posts/crossbar may still exist. Then, it will be just impossible for that to happen due to the "flat" (right) angles.
4) There is a giver, kind of intentionally suggested at the end: the sound track ... watch and listen carefully.
My vote: I love Ronaldinho, but it is fake, at least part of it.
Thank you!
For example...quite a long time ago 2 teams were playing a match, and one of the greats (i wanna say pele) was in the game. He was given a free kick, with which he placed on goal, and it hit the upper nintey (literally, hit the bend in the post). He was discouraged and later got yet another free kick at around the same place. He once again, placed it right on the upper ninety. He told the refs that the goal was not regulation sized, they measured the goal, and indeed it was smaller than regulation. That just shows how much practice goes into these skills the players have. If someone puts forth the practice, and knows exactly what a perfect shot feels like, to the point that they can tell when a goal is not of regulation size, then I think this Ronaldinho commercial is quite believeable. I do agree with whomever above me saying that the crossbar is round, which it is, which owuld make it very difficult, but i would not put it past some of the players to day. Soccer is there likfe. They've been playing for years and years.
Take into consideration, those of you that have jobs. I'm sure your jobs take some kind of expertise, and you can tell when something isn't right. Well, soccer is these guys job. That's all they do, besides indorsement commericals. If you played soccer day in and day out for 10 years straight, and even before that played regularly, you would become extraodinary, to the point that it is hard for people some people to disbelieve.
I, myself, believe that the video is real.
here is a capture from the video:
why the debate if nike admitted only two were real?
as for the Tiger ad (post #2), that was only the 2nd or 3rd take.
I am Messi of the Barcelona team. And I am gravely disappointed with the dibelief everyone has for the Ronaldinho. I have watched Ronaldinho play in practice and have learned some stuff from him. We played this game called Retribul, where we hit targets after every training, and the crossbar is a vary logical target, even the poles that hang the spanish flag we hit balls off of. Ronaldinho can hit the ball off the crossbar 9 times in row by volley, 14 times in a row by spot kick 30 yrds out. I can do almost the same, with repetition comes Perfection....
FC Barcelona
As for the video, it's a fake, you can clearly see it in the ball.
my vote: true
I can completely believe that he can hit the crossbar four times in a row. For a player of his quality that is not in doubt. However, beause crossbars are round the ball bounces off at different angles and speeds. On each occassion he barely moves in order to collect the ball as it returns to him. Getting the ball to bounce back to the same spot four times in a row is impossible.
I think what they've done is set up a ball cannon behind the goal that will fire balls to where he is standing. Then he kicks the ball towards the cross bar, probably hitting it because he's great. Another ball is then fired from behind the goal. The original ball is removed from the shot as is the ball cannon.
I'm not taking anything away from him. He is the second best player in the world (Thierry Henry being the best) and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he juggled each new ball that was fired to him from the cannon then hit the cross-bar with it. It is just that the woodwork is always unpredictable and it never bounces back to where you expect it to.
also...nike admited that ronaldinho made 2 shots off the cross bar successrully but didnt say anything about the ball returning, or ronalidinho catching it and continuing to juggle
and...why would nike say that the kid made 2 when ronaldinho said he made all ovem???
the answer...they never specified..look into it
oh and...soccer...football...its a word..get over yourself ken
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5374114358571920512&q=tiger+woods&pl=true
this is how the trick was done, it's all special effects, sorry to spoil your fun, i guess star trek is real too ;P
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/66445/ronaldinho_gaucho_nike_shoes_trick_revealed/
But look closely, you can clearly see when he kicks the ball, halfway through its flight it turns into a blatant CGI ball, and its trajectory changes, probably only slight to make it appear to hit the bar cleanly, then i think he gets another real ball thrown at him from the goal, so it looks real.
Watch the first kick carefully, before the camera man zooms out, the ball certainly changes to CGI!
i like nike in football shoes.
my fovourite football country is brazil and football club is barcelona.
BOW BEFORE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice use of the argumentum ad ignorantium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
If, in the course of discussing a work of fiction, I said that, "Well, it's a novel. Therefore, the events described probably didn't happen in real life." Would you call that an argument from ignorance? I wouldn't. I would call it recognizing that certain genres, such as fiction and advertising, don't follow the same conventions of truth-telling as genres such as news reporting do.
and that idiot child that put that picture that you can clearly see she painted over the ball is just sad, sad that people with no lifes have the time to try and ruin something....