Princess Juliana Airport

image This is a pretty amazing picture, and it screams 'Photoshop!' After all, where in the world would planes really land that close to sunbathers on a beach? It looks like the plane is landing right on top of them. Well, the place is Princess Juliana Airport in St. Maarten. And the airplanes really do come in that close to the beach. A collection of shots of planes landing at Princess Juliana is circulating as a powerpoint file via email. Jozee V sent the file along to me (Thanks, Jozee!). At first I couldn't believe that the shots were real, but after a little research I was convinced. The thumbnail shot was taken by the photographer Justin Cederholm. You can see more shots of planes landing at Princess Juliana Airport here, and here, and here. And if you don't believe this is a real airport, then check out it's website. Trust me, it's real. But personally I think those people sunbathing there are crazy. It seems to me like it would be a good way to shatter your eardrums.

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Posted on Fri Feb 20, 2004



Comments

I am a Delta Air Lines pilot. I stumbled upon this site somehow and I am amazed that some of you don't believe this shot. I have never flown a 757 to SXM which is what Delta sends becasue my seniority isn't high enough but have been there on leisure. It does not look that low from inside the cabin but once you get on the beach it is quite amazing! Yes, the airplane is pretty much at idle when you come in on what we call 'finals'. We have to constantly adjust the throttle on finals to maintain a certain angle of attack and keep on glidesope. On minimums, which is generally right over the beach, we go to idle and ease her down. Great beach though! Visit delta.com and book your next trip.
Posted by Roy Davison  on  Sat Aug 27, 2005  at  08:05 AM
First Officer Davison here again. Here is a link to Delta's landings at SXM on airliners.net Not quite that 747 but close.
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?&airlinesearch=Delta Air Lines&maxres=500&keywords=SXM&keywrange=all&nr_of_rows=24&first_this_page=15&page_limit=15&sort_order=photo_id+DESC&nr_pages=2&engine_version=6.0
Posted by Roy Davison  on  Sat Aug 27, 2005  at  08:21 AM
You obviously don't know what you're talking about - at least any of you who believe this is not true. How do you think these planes get down out of the sky? The don't magically appear on the runway! I have more pictures of this exact scene if you would like to see them. E-mail me @ "[email protected]" Thank you - Scott
Posted by Scott  on  Wed Sep 07, 2005  at  04:37 PM
BWAHAHAHA!!!!!! its so funny to read these posts thinking they're so smart and outsmarting all of those who've actually BEEN there...just do a frieken google search....Princess Juliana International Airport....haha man i had such a funny time reading this.
Posted by chris g  on  Sat Oct 01, 2005  at  02:20 PM
The last time I checked a 757, 747 and an airbus 340 cant land at a 7000ft runway. Yes the airport is that close to the water, yes those are still fake pictures. You can cut and paste whatever you want, photoshop does wonders.
Posted by Doesnt matter  on  Sun Dec 11, 2005  at  08:02 PM
Well I think you are either trying to continue stir up the crap or you are just as naive and stupid as the rest of the people who dont believe it all. All you have to do is check the timetable or airlines that serve this airport at th Princess Juliana International Website http://www.pjiae.com/ and that will confirm to everyone that this is all true - you dont need photos to verify this kind of thing.
Posted by Steve  on  Sun Dec 11, 2005  at  10:00 PM
Lol, no matter what you do, you can't get through to these a-holes who can't believe it. I'd photoshop my ass to their face, but it would be an improvement.
Posted by porklover  on  Mon Dec 12, 2005  at  04:28 AM
Don't suppose anyone's going to attempt to put an Airbus A380 down there 😛
Posted by Webologist  on  Mon Dec 12, 2005  at  05:50 AM
If you think it is photoshop... download the pictures in photoshop... examine the layers and then tell me the pictures were doctored...
I have landed at PJIA every April since 2000...
I have sat at the bar at Sunset Beach Bar many times to watch the planes landing in SXM...
Before you say it is not real... go there yourself... then tell me it is a hoax...
Posted by peconic  on  Mon Dec 12, 2005  at  07:47 AM
I would love to see someone... anyone post a non-doctored picture of a plane landing at PJIA that contradicted any picture on this thread... to you non-believers... GO THERE YOURSELF!!!
If you don't...
Be content to live in your conspiracy laden, lied to, skeptical little world...
YES IT'S TRUE... THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PICTURES OF PJIA AIRPORT OUT THERE... ALL HAVE BEEN DOCTORED BY PHOTOSHOP!!! PICTURES & VIDEO'S ALIKE... IT IS A CONSPIRACY BY ALL WHO VISIT ST. MAARTEN!!! WE ALL SIGN AN AGREEMENT EVERY TIME WE VISIT SXM TO ONLY POST PICTURES THAT ARE FALSE!!!
SEE YOU ARE RIGHT!!! IT'S ALL BEING DONE TO YOU!!!
YOU ARE THE VICTIM!!! BOO-HOO... YOU'VE FIGURED IT ALL OUT!!!
Posted by peconic  on  Mon Dec 12, 2005  at  10:20 AM
I wish all you conspirancy laden skeptics the best in your own little world...
BUT...
The neighors are starting to complain...
All your cats are starting to smell and they want them removed...
Posted by peconic  on  Mon Dec 12, 2005  at  10:36 AM
The pics are as real as it gets. I have been visiting the island yearly for 8 years now and always spend a couple of afternoons at that beach. I do enjoy "hanging onto the fence" for the Air France and Corsair 747 take-offs. Although it is quite a rush, it does not lift you off the ground like some people claim.
Posted by bc  on  Thu Dec 29, 2005  at  03:44 PM
Dear lord, so much arguing about if this is real or not! I just happened to stumble upon this site. I think it's been laid to rest fairly well, but it does in fact happen several times a day, and while people seemed concerned about the noise, it was always the sandstorm that really bothered me. Sometimes tourists get caught off guard and get blasted, I do it just for fun. As long as we're arguing about seemingly unsafe airport practices.... anyone know about Saba, a nearby island that boasts the worlds shortest commercial runway (or something like that...) ? I live there and the landing/stalling out of the sky still freaks me out. I'll try and get a seemingly unbelievable picture of it up on here soon for people to argue about.
Posted by Nate  on  Thu Jan 05, 2006  at  03:44 PM
I have been there and the picture is very much real. The noise is heard on the takeoffs not the landings. And the planes taking off will lift you off the ground because I saw I have seen it role a tourist into the water.
Posted by mark092238059  on  Mon Jan 16, 2006  at  04:05 PM
Just got back from St. Maarten. Not only does the occasional sunbather accidently get "caught" in the backwash from the planes, but some poeple actually go there to experience it. The photo is taken from the bar Sunset Beach Club, which features a very large deck overlooking the beach/landing area, and the Club actually posts arrival times of the jumbos. The landing planes don't create all that much disturbance, but departing planes turn around with their tail ends maybe 100 yards from that beach, and the takeoffs DO produce huge gusts. People go right up to the chainlink fence and hang on just to experience the blast. Takes all kinds, eh?
Posted by madpeters  on  Sun Feb 05, 2006  at  02:51 PM
madpeters...
slight correction to your post...
It's NOT "the bar Sunset Beach Club"...
The name is Sunset Beach Bar...
http://www.sunsetbeachbar.com/
Posted by Brian  on  Mon Feb 06, 2006  at  12:12 PM
BTW...
We will be there in:
9 weeks, 6 days, (69 days) 21h 49m 01s
Posted by Brian  on  Mon Feb 06, 2006  at  12:14 PM
Why are people so upset that some don't believe the pics? It's not like there are not thousands of fake pics and stories circulating on the Internet. Of course people are going to doubt. If you know it's true, then be happy that you know the truth and don't be so bitchy about it. You must admit that it is hard to believe! If it's real then there's no reason to get all uppity.
Posted by robin.g  on  Fri Feb 24, 2006  at  10:12 AM
Its runway 9 (heading east, or 90 degrees) on the Isle of St Maarten.
Posted by Silent Otto  on  Mon Apr 03, 2006  at  11:50 AM
It's 100% real.

Been to St. Maarten and saw it myself (though they usually aren't THAT low, but it does happen every now and then, according to the locals). It's a HUGE tourist attraction there, watching the 747's, etc, land.

The pic was taken on Maho Beach. There are beach bars nearby, but the only reason people are in that area is for one of these extra low sightings (jet fumes don't mix well with rum). Princess Juliana airport is infamous for it, but I'll tell you, watching them take off, where it looks like they are just going to crash into homes and mountains is even scarier.
Posted by LearningConformity  on  Wed Apr 12, 2006  at  06:04 AM
Check out the video at the following link if you're still a skeptic....

http://webpages.charter.net/swarner/maho.asx
Posted by joeruger  on  Wed Apr 19, 2006  at  09:39 AM
all i have to say
Posted by alex perry  on  Wed May 17, 2006  at  02:39 PM
http://flightlevel350.com/video_streaming.php?id=3929
Posted by alex perry  on  Wed May 17, 2006  at  02:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egQhwpD50fw&search=landings

and a few more...
Posted by Aaron  on  Sat Jul 08, 2006  at  08:19 PM
This video says it all.I took this video when we visited St.Maarten in May 2006
Posted by Frozen1  on  Wed Aug 02, 2006  at  03:50 PM
I am going to this island on my 18th birthday(next year). I have dreamt of going here because i'm a student pilot training to be a delta airlines pilot. I own the dvd from http://www.justplanes.com. They are all real the photos . And just a quick question.For those of you who've been there how often do planes land there in a 10 minute range? also how busy is the traffic, like how often is there activity there?and also , how big do the planes look in reality even the tiny ones because you really can't tell with these pictures. All comments accepted 😊 except if your skeptical and are trying to bash me because I know this island exists being my folks went there before I was born.
Posted by philip  on  Wed Aug 16, 2006  at  08:38 PM
Philip. The day we were there it was a mix of small island hoppers and big jets. 757-737.
It is a constant stream of air traffic.(awsome)
Anyone into aviation needs to go there. I'm trying to link the video I made again. We just got back and looking to go again soon. Later.
Posted by steve  on  Thu Aug 17, 2006  at  04:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWzy696ZQE
Posted by steve  on  Thu Aug 17, 2006  at  04:50 PM
Is there any possibility for Airbus A380's to land and takeoff to/from this airport?
Posted by Alejandro  on  Tue Oct 03, 2006  at  07:27 PM
No way an A380 could land there. Even though the runway is 7070' long, it has displaced thresholds on both ends (only departing aircraft can use this portion of the pavement). So the actual landing distance available is only 6742'.
Posted by Keith  on  Fri Oct 20, 2006  at  11:45 AM
The Air France Boeing 747 approach looks very low. The jumbo jet is heavy and pilots were just following the glide slope. They are now flying VFR! I don't see any problem with the picture?
Posted by Jay Lee Long  on  Fri Dec 15, 2006  at  11:02 PM
The problem with the Photo is that there is no ground effect on the water from the wings.

The photo is valid in accept that the photo has been digitally manipulated to bring the aircraft closer to the beach.

Check this one out (linked below) from the same site. It is more obvious. Follow the shadow line on the vertical stabilizer to the ground. Draw a line from the shadow cast, by the horizonal stabilizers, upon the vertical stabilizer to the beach. Notice that the shadow of aircraft does not commence where it should be. The aircraft has been brought down closer to the ground that was the case in the original photo.

Case closed.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1126677/M/
Posted by Bill  on  Sat Dec 16, 2006  at  12:05 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Juliana_Airport
Posted by Mark  on  Sun Dec 17, 2006  at  03:51 AM
I think we agree that the Photographs are real, check out Google Earth for Saint Martins, You will see that Prinses Juliana Airport has a 7800 Ft runway... good size considering aloing with the smaller airport of '' Grand Case'' with a 3600 ft runway.
Ive been there many times during my time as a Matalot and hung off the fence at the end of the run way.... drunk sailors will try anything... if you dont hold on you do get blown away but need to be real carfull... there the road barriers at your back... best to actually be at the top of the beach and enjoy the thrill of being blown in to the sea by the jet blast.... cooooooollll
Posted by Muzzo  on  Mon Aug 13, 2007  at  08:22 AM
I hope that by now, all of the doubters here have been persuaded by enough eye-witnesses to know that these photos are real. I have seen it myself and it does happen there.

My post is correct some comments about the 747 landing gear. The reason that the outer gear bogies hang like they do has nothing to do with smooth landing etc. The answer comes from a friend of mine who worked on the Boeing design team for this aircraft and is very simple. In order for this aircraft to not damage runways, it needed four main gear legs each with four wheeled bogies to spread the weight. This was the first time that such a heavy aircraft had been designed with such a configuration. The outer legs were put in the only place possible but the main wing spar runs through the gear bay and cannot be compromised. So as space was tight, the gear was designed to hang as seen in the photo, so that when retracted it fits into the bay snug up against the spar. The wing of the 747 has the most sweep of any commercial aircraft, which is why this feature is not usually necessary in most other aircraft. Airbus copied the design on the A330/A340 as it does provide other benefits on landing as previously stated. Boeing's answer to a similar wieght problem on the 777-300LR is to use 6 wheeled bogies. Airbus uses an extra centre line bogie on the A340.

Finally, if you think that is low, look at this

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0911730
Posted by Graham  on  Tue Jan 15, 2008  at  10:57 AM
Firstly, the Jet engines are on idle on decent so there is not much (relatively) coming out of them..

secondly
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?aircraft_genericsearch=&airlinesearch;=&countrysearch;=-+Philipsburg+/+St.+Maarten+-+Princess+Juliana+(SXM+/+TNCM)&specialsearch;=&daterange;=&keywords;=⦥=&sort;_order=&page_limit=15&thumbnails;=&calccount=1262548&truecount=false&engine_version=6.0
this is a database with a huge amount of photos from Princess Juliana Airport at St Marteens in the Netherlands.. so if you can't believe that then, I'm sorry for you
Posted by Webby  on  Sun Apr 13, 2008  at  07:21 AM
bugger.. link didn't work (just go to airliners.net click on photos and do a search for Philipsburg / St. Maarten - Princess Juliana (SXM / TNCM)
Posted by Webby  on  Sun Apr 13, 2008  at  07:26 AM
I'm sorry for those of you who do not believe that this is real. I have been to this location, I have taken photos there and taken video. This aircraft is on a normal glide path, making a perfectly normal approach. It happens 10-20 times a day and if you don't believe it, just go there. Then you will understand it is all true. All your claims about shadows and water movement are bogus. Furthermore, you will have a great vacation.
Posted by Graham  on  Sun Apr 13, 2008  at  08:13 AM
that is real! ive been there, the reason people aren't looking up b/c they are used to seeing it! go mavs!
Posted by kyle  on  Sat May 03, 2008  at  09:37 PM
I can't believe that after 4.5 years, this is still a discussion???
Yes, it's real...
Posted by PBS  on  Mon Aug 11, 2008  at  04:10 PM
I've seen that Airport on the TV and it is really awesome. Sands are flying everytime the airplane lands.
Posted by Free Airfare  on  Sun Sep 14, 2008  at  11:25 PM
I find it incredible that so many people think that such photos must be faked when the proof to the contrary is so widespread. I have landed and taken off from SXM on many occasions and yes people stand underneath the planes when they land and yes the planes are that low when they come in to land. Here is some more.
Posted by NotaSheep  on  Sun Jun 21, 2009  at  01:46 AM
This is sooo hoax. I'm having a great laugh about the arguments like: "it's true, I've been there, look at this image, it proves this and that..." Just lot of crap arguments. Use your comon sence and look att the pictures, they are soooo Photoshoped you folks should be embarased about your common sence.
Posted by George  on  Wed Jan 20, 2010  at  05:10 AM
A friemd of mine went there last summer and sent me a video via email. When I first saw it, my thought was : I want that editing-software! But it's real after all. this world sure is a strange place...
Posted by Parker  on  Tue May 18, 2010  at  07:15 AM
George of London: Have you been to St Martin? I have and trust me some of the planes are that low as they come in to land. Clearly your sense of logic is as well developed as that of your spelling.
Posted by NotaSheep  on  Sun Jul 25, 2010  at  06:04 AM
Disbelievers may like to take a look at the UK broadsheet (ie: serious) newspaper The Telegraph for Sunday 25 July, go to page 19 and look at the picture there... Looks like an Air France Airbus 340 landing at Princess Juliana Airport to me... Unfortunately the online version of the article - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/familyholidays/7908214/Holidays-and-how-to-survive-them.html - has a different image.
Posted by NotaSheep  on  Mon Jul 26, 2010  at  03:49 AM
Disbelievers might also want to take a look at http://www.weirdexistence.com/the-worst-beach-in-the-world/ this page of photos and video of planes landing at this airport - It's real!
Posted by NotaSheep  on  Mon Jul 26, 2010  at  11:01 AM
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