Giant Alligator

image An image has been circulating showing a giant alligator hanging from a crane, as a person in uniform walks behind it. But according to the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission (as quoted in the Texarkana Gazette), the image is fake:

"It's fake. It didn't happen. We don't just go out and kill alligators just because they are there. I don't know why anyone would perpetuate something like that," he said. "There is a lot that comes across the Internet that is fabricated," said Arkansas Game and Fish Commission Lt. Don Albright...
According to the photograph's accompanying text, Evening Shade, Ark., residents Charles and Anita Rogers, who may or may not exist, said they could hear "bellowing" during the evening hours. According to the story, their neighbors attributed the alleged noise to a giant alligator they saw in the pond that runs behind their home.
"I didn't believe it," Charles Rogers said in the story.
Albright said the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission has detained large alligators in the past like the one seen in the picture. However, he said the organization has a policy to protect the alligators rather than shooting them, hanging their remains from a suspended crane and taking pictures of their trophy.


But how exactly is it fake? That's not clear to me. Is it the caption that's fake? Or has the image been photoshopped? Snopes suspects the image is genuine, but has the incident occurring in Texas.

Animals

Posted on Thu Aug 25, 2005



Comments

stop killing alligators,if you keap on killing them they will become extinct.They are not horifing monsters,they do not diserve this.I am a 11 year old trying to help alligators,i hope this helps.
Posted by cody  on  Mon Dec 17, 2007  at  07:03 AM
I think that if someone killed an alligator they should be arrest and put in jail for about a year because if alligators are on the extinced list why are we still killing them we should be saving them and stop making them in to boots, bags and bults and other stuff like that and I hope this message means something to you.
Posted by Karen R.  on  Sun Dec 23, 2007  at  10:52 PM
Umm...American alligators aren't endangered. They appear to be a protected species, though.
Posted by Smerk  on  Sun Dec 23, 2007  at  11:08 PM
You guys don't know the old big fish pic trick of holding the fish out, arm extended. The forced perspective makes it look huge. That's all this is, plain and simple. Someone pointed out how the officer's shadow doesn't fall over the tail. That shows how far away the gator actually is from the officer and the backhoe and how close it is to the camera. Also, the backhoe's arm is at a right angle but the angle makes it look taller than it really is. That gator is probably about 10 feet long.
Posted by Mike  on  Sat Feb 09, 2008  at  10:09 PM
real gator, real crane, fake cop
Posted by Anonymous  on  Thu Apr 03, 2008  at  08:27 PM
That is so fake really look at it and then when you look up at the head its about half size of the body and thats not right. The texture of the skin looks weird too.
Posted by Steph  on  Wed Jun 25, 2008  at  10:19 PM
Hey guys.... just wanted to let you know that it is a 13.1 feet. REAL croc... Although maybe you should look um the SWEETHEART croc... 19 FT and CAPTURED then died in CApture.. not fake its real and on display he is male and at Darwin MUSEUM AUSTRALIA... just thought you would like to know THEY GET BIGGER.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweetheart_(crocodile)

Anyways I think its sad they kill them they have been around long time...

Bye from Australia..

Kiera
Posted by Kiera Wilson  on  Wed Aug 20, 2008  at  05:52 PM
I have Responded to this posting before, as a Former Resident of the Subdivision where this Alligator was killed, and the Photo was taken, This particular Alligator was Extremly Dangerous, One resident fed it Chickens (the HOA frowned apon this, asked him to stop, and he Shot the HOA president 9 times over feeding this Alligator)
This Subdivision has several canals running all through it, Many, Many Alligators, and they are not afraid of humans. It was only a matter of time until this alligator finished off all of our pets and moved on to our children.
I appreicate the aspect of having wild animals around (at Bar X Ranch, there are Thousands of white tail deer) But when it comes to the safety of our children, I believe this is a necessary evil.
People can believe as they want, but this picture is real.
Posted by chuck  on  Thu Aug 21, 2008  at  06:00 AM
It it is real, the size will be exagerated coz it's from Texas
Posted by Mike Cundell  on  Wed Oct 01, 2008  at  07:15 AM
Hi everyone!
Posted by Emma  on  Sun Oct 05, 2008  at  08:03 AM
this is real, it happened in alabama not arkansas, and it got shot because they had no choice, they were trying to capture it and it didn't work out
Posted by kenora  on  Mon Mar 09, 2009  at  11:24 PM
alligators should be procted or if they go exctinct we will be to blame. and i am a 10 year old trying to procte alligators.so get my messaing.
Posted by chelsea  on  Fri Apr 17, 2009  at  04:24 PM
leave alligators alone they do not do anything to them don't kill they are living humans do you agree
Posted by TamaraEllis  on  Thu Apr 23, 2009  at  06:51 PM
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Posted by TamaraEllis  on  Thu Apr 23, 2009  at  06:57 PM
well i was just studing aligators and i just fell in love with them and i stil cant belvie we humans are killing them. they r such wonderful creatures and then we are killing them for clothes food etc. so if i was you i would reseach them more and you probaly fall in love with them and realize how inportant they are to use and again i am a 10 year old trying to save alligators so just take my advice and realize you just need to take care of them and they will not become instinct so please please take my advice and you have yourself to thank for saving the alligaters. 😉
Posted by chelsea  on  Mon May 04, 2009  at  07:28 PM
Yeah all the animal rights activists talk about how we shouldn't kill it--until that alligator eats an entire school bus with kids in it. LOL--people have been killing animals that endanger human life since the beginning of time. And this alligator, being the size of Detroit, endangered human life. We're superior.
Sorry to rain on the parade, but I'm glad they got to it before it got to a person. Say they wouldn't have killed it-would you have gotten on to the alligator for the killing the deer? We musn't endanger deer!
Posted by scott  on  Wed Jun 10, 2009  at  08:36 AM
well ive been around backhoes all my life and i know that a trex back hoe shown in this picture can in fact lift over 5000 lbs with the back boom the thing is having a good operator that knows how to do it. i know there are people saying its not real but i personaly think it is just because i believe that if something has a good food sorse that it can grow bigger than normal
Posted by alex  on  Thu Jun 18, 2009  at  05:05 PM
ok dude that is no a robot human you idiot and weather it is fake or not someone did a good job....and the biggest gator ive heard of is 16ft so i think it might be a oad of bull
Posted by jon  on  Sun Jul 12, 2009  at  12:36 PM
This photo is a fake. There has never been a documented gator ever cought,killed that was over 15' In the late 1980's on Lake Santa Fe around the Melrose, Keystone Heights Fla. area,a gator was killed that was 14'9". That gator was documented as the biggest gator ever caught..and still is!! There has'nt even been a saltwater croc. that has been documented over 20'....
Posted by grant moyer  on  Sun Jul 12, 2009  at  07:49 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/hotstories/6556800.html
2 men charged with killing 600-pound gator
The reptile was popular with visitors at the Armand Bayou Nature Center
By ALLAN TURNER
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
July 31, 2009, 9:43PM
A day of hunting wild pigs turned sour for two Pasadena men after they caught
Posted by BARBARA TIEMEIER  on  Sat Aug 01, 2009  at  10:08 AM
And the original story The gator in that photo was on the front page of our paper April 2005, I kept the paper.
http://thefacts.com/story.lasso?ewcd=83855b74c795fc57
It was too large to haul off, 13 ft long, so had to be killed.
Game wardens forced to shoot alligator

By Michael Wright
The Facts

Published April 16, 2005

WEST COLUMBIA
Posted by BARBARA TIEMEIER  on  Sat Aug 01, 2009  at  10:13 AM
Anita Rogers said she kept her dogs in the fence when she first heard the stories and heard the bellowing, which she likened to a giant bullfrog.

The Rogerses are glad the reptile is gone, but they don
Posted by BARBARA TIEMEIER  on  Sat Aug 01, 2009  at  10:13 AM
That's a crocodile.

Gators have thin noses.

The uniform looks like Northern Territory Australia police.

Salt water crocs are *MUCH* more agressive then gators.
Posted by Mr-Yellow  on  Thu Aug 06, 2009  at  07:23 PM
Mr-Yellow person thats a alligator in the photo not a crocodile. crocs are the ones with the thin snouts, alligators are the ones with the big snouts, and american crocs are the ones with the really thin snouts. Google the 3 if you dont believe me or learn more about them you idiot.
Posted by karen  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  09:39 AM
No you.

Guess you've never seen a croc 😛
Posted by Mr-Yellow  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  06:38 PM
i've seen them and i know what they actually look
Posted by karen  on  Fri Aug 07, 2009  at  08:47 PM
I bet those of you who are so worried about the alligator have never had a loved one or friend bitten or killed by one of these useless creatures. We have a house on the river and our children swim off our pier and there have been gators seen up river from us I'm sure they will soon if not already be in front of our house so I wish they were gone. At one time they may have been endangered but thanks to people who do not even live near gators or who have never taken their kids to the river for a day of tubing, sking, sun bathing,or just floating the river, they have made a huge comeback. My family is alot more important than a gator. We shouldn't have to worry everytime we get in the water if we are gonna have a encounter with a gator. :coolhmm:
Posted by Vicki Brown  on  Wed Oct 28, 2009  at  03:11 PM
Well, firstly.. That's an american alligator, not a croc, I do believe Steve Irwin would agree if he weren't mending the hole in his chest.

Secondly, there's only two things that make me believe that photo has been shopped... One being the tail, which is almost fully curved and erect. If this gator is dead or even sleeping, the tail would not be so tense, it would at least be touching the ground in ANY circumstance. And aside from that, why isn't the officer's shadow casting onto the tail? It's obviously casting below it.

And the rope. It loops through the gator's mouth and is hanging freely below it. However, the tassle at the end of the rope is not pointing toward the ground, it's slanted as if it were swinging, but nothing else in the photo is.

Besides, the head's too big.
Posted by Corpse  on  Fri Nov 06, 2009  at  12:39 AM
The pic was taken in FL and its real i kinda know cause i used to live near there it is 100% true and they did not shoot it for know reason. it was hauling around a full grown buck in the water if you do is look around on the internet and you will figure it out. people were also trying to say it was shoot in Texas that's not true they just don't have any thing to talk about in that state and they need to stop taking other people's credit.
Posted by james b  on  Thu Dec 24, 2009  at  12:27 AM
The story is full of holes, starting with the picture of the hanging carcass. The proportions are wrong for an alligator in several parts of the body. The head is a crocodile head or that of a cross-breed of some kind (including, perhaps, one made by phot editing). Fish & Game Depts would not kill such a monster; they would do their level best to preserve it; it's too big a tourist draw not to. And who in A-mer-i-ca refers to a deer as a stag? They call the antlered ones 'bucks'. 'Stag' is a European term.
Posted by Pahinh Winh  on  Mon Dec 28, 2009  at  03:00 PM
this is a fake, i worked with gator control agent in fl for over 12 yrs, studied zoology and herpetology, have caught 1000 of gators, and now keep them as pets, the head is very funny, way to large. largest i ever caught was 13 1/2 ft, largest i ever saw was 17 ft largest ever caught was 19 ft, its a fake,looks more like a 12 ft one with a enlarged head, photo chopped on it
Posted by al  on  Mon Feb 01, 2010  at  08:24 AM
deer people alligators are founnd in kansas we have done so much research on the ones found in kansas and we think alligators were already in kansas before kansas became a state so there are kansas aligators and kansas crocadilles to so don't say that is fake because it may not be it may have been since kansas became a state or even before that.
Posted by phill  on  Wed Feb 10, 2010  at  03:16 PM
its stupid, the tail curves upward, if it were dead then the tail would flop dragging on the ground.
Posted by jack  on  Thu Feb 11, 2010  at  02:00 PM
I've never seen a real alligator before but it does look real. However it's tail is curled upward, not touching the ground. So it makes me question as to whether or not the picture really is authentic. Do Alligator tails curl when they die?
Posted by Cat  on  Thu Feb 18, 2010  at  05:17 PM
The Pic looks Pretty Real.The Gator is there and its wrong to have it just hanging there like some doll!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Brianna Melton  on  Fri Apr 16, 2010  at  10:14 AM
You can tell that this is fake if you look at the rope he's hanging from-the one attached to the crane..look closely-it's impossible that he's hanging there like that on a tiny looped rope-only on one prong of the crane.
Posted by Rachelle  on  Sun May 02, 2010  at  03:38 PM
You can so tell this is fake because if he was really hanging from the crane the force of it would be so strong that his mouth would be open because sopossedly(spelled it wrong) it is tied shut but it clearly isn't.
Posted by shannon  on  Sun May 02, 2010  at  03:46 PM
This is real, it was in my newspaper, in Laplace La, The Times Picayune.
Posted by Austin Vicknair  on  Fri May 21, 2010  at  08:31 PM
okay first of all you can obviously see that the Gators tail is not touching the ground which is completely rediculous. If it was really dead, Its tail would have no strength to keep it in the air. real story, fake Picture.
Posted by Jesse  on  Wed May 26, 2010  at  07:39 PM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7059717.html
'Later, alligator'
When reptiles venture into populated areas, officials urge you to just back away
By AMANDA CASANOVA
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
June 18, 2010, 12:09AM
For the most part, encounters between alligators and humans are harmless. Already this season in Harris County, the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department has logged more than 25 calls for nuisance alligators, two of them within the past week, and all have ended amicably
Posted by Barbara Tiemeier  on  Mon Jun 21, 2010  at  12:12 PM
SNOPES SAYS TRUE and it happened here and I still have the newspaper. A neighbor shot and killed one just down the street from me almost the same size.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/wcgator.asp
Posted by Barbara Tiemeier  on  Mon Jun 21, 2010  at  12:15 PM
I don't know who doctored this picture up but this gator was found lodged in a storm culbort after Katrina in new orleans. The wildlife and fisheries people said the storm surge swept it headfirst into the drain and it got stuck and died there. It's hooked to a crane because that was the only way to get it out so we could repair the line. the gator was almost seventeen feet long. I know this for a fact because I was not ten feet away when it was taken out of the drain. someone just doctored the pictures up and added things in. You can tell it's a louisiana gator because of how it looks. louisiana and the southern parts of florida have an algea in the lakes that makes the gator look like it has a sheen.
Posted by michael caves  on  Fri Aug 27, 2010  at  03:10 AM
If you want proof. look hanging in the trees in the back of the picyure and you'll notice spanish moss hanging from the tree limbs. thats louisiana.
Posted by michael caves  on  Fri Aug 27, 2010  at  03:22 AM
they dont care if they kill you so why should u care about killing them
Posted by tonio  on  Sun Apr 10, 2011  at  01:09 AM
haha thats some bull. alligators should die. no one likes them and they kill dogs kids cats turkeys goats horses, and they attack HUMANS so down with the gators!
Posted by edmund t  on  Mon Apr 18, 2011  at  10:21 AM
There's no shadow of the officer on the gators tail.
Posted by Random person  on  Wed Jul 20, 2011  at  10:06 AM
Just letting y'all all know, Joe Goff did shoot that gator. He shot it in his neighbors backyard. It is a world record gator. We have our own pictures of that gator. I have know Joe most of my life, and he is an amazing guy. Everyone in West Columbia Texas has no reason to lie about this gator. The photo is real. The gator is real. It was shot in a subdivision called Bar X. Look it up.
Posted by Michala Smith  on  Tue Feb 07, 2012  at  05:11 PM
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