This is pretty obviously photoshopped. The colors are too bright, for one thing. Also, I don't think the Army lets soldiers custom paint their jeeps. (via Telebush)
Forget the color scheme; do Humvees in Iraq really have no doors like that? Seems a wee bit...unsafe, wouldn't you say?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 02:00 AM
Been there (twice) and yes lots of us drove around without doors. may not appear safe, but the "armored" doors aren't all that armored and it makes de-assing the vehicle a whole lot quicker so you can respond to enemy fire or run like hell which ever the situation calls for.
Posted by Charlie Mike on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 07:55 AM
But, but, but... you can't jump in through the windows! It's insane!!!!!!!
Posted by Charybdis on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 08:17 AM
It's fake for one reason...see that tank in the background? It's a Patton(M60), they haven't been deployed in Iraq afaik....
Posted by Carl_P on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 09:11 AM
Charybdis said:
"But, but, but... you can't jump in through the windows! It's insane!!!!!!!"
And, even worse, I'm told female soldiers aren't allowed to wear Daisy Dukes!!!
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 02:18 PM
Charlie Mike said:
"Been there (twice) and yes lots of us drove around without doors. may not appear safe, but the "armored" doors aren't all that armored and it makes de-assing the vehicle a whole lot quicker so you can respond to enemy fire or run like hell which ever the situation calls for."
That's just sad. This thing's been going on now for, what, three years and we STILL can't put decent armor on the friggin' vehicles? Why don't we just paint targets on the backs of the troops' uniforms?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 02:20 PM
> This thing's been going on now for, what, three
> years and we STILL can't put decent armor on the
> friggin' vehicles?
Sure we do... They're called tanks. Trouble is, tanks aren't very useful for patrols.
Posted by Travis Finucane on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 03:29 PM
This image was the winning entry with 248 votes in a photoshopping contest from Fark.com website.
From that same thread, this is some guy's description of the original picture:
"looks like a photoshoot in camp. Also looks like the UK's repair shop seeing as how there is a British flag behind them, trucks with hoods up, and a tank sitting around them. This is why the humvee is missing doors. A driver would be highly unlikly to carry a SAW...kind of hard to get that bigass gun around to shoot. More likely to have an M4 or a PDW or some kind. I'm thinking it is more of a hey, ya'll look at us, we have machine guns and are playing with a .50."
Posted by O RLY? YA RLY! on Fri Jan 06, 2006 at 05:47 PM
Travis, I was speaking specifically about the Humvees. I figured that was obvious given the topic of this thread.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 01:06 AM
True, CrankyMediaGuy, but there are different tasks for different vehicles. You want something heavily armored, it has to be slow. You want something fast, you limit the armor. You want something fast and heavily armored, it has to be either very big and powerful or only carry one or two guys. Big doesn't do well on patrols.
Posted by MikeTheLibrarian on Sat Jan 07, 2006 at 09:54 PM
MikeTheLibrarian said:
"You want something heavily armored, it has to be slow. You want something fast, you limit the armor. You want something fast and heavily armored, it has to be either very big and powerful or only carry one or two guys. Big doesn't do well on patrols."
Well, since some troops have taken to trying to fashion their own armor for the Humvees, I guess they think that the smaller vehicles need to be armored, too.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 01:52 AM
"It's fake for one reason...see that tank in the background? It's a Patton(M60), they haven't been deployed in Iraq afaik...."
Not by the US, but how about by the other militaries involved?
And as for not having adequate armour on the Humvees, the US military has been having to cut back a lot over the past decade or so due to a reduced and often poorly-applied budget. But even so, more armour is not always the best thing to have. No matter how thick the armour, there's always something that can break it, especially when the armour makes you into a large, slow-moving target. Sometimes manoeuvreability and speed is better to have.
Posted by Accipiter on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 09:41 AM
Accipiter said:
"And as for not having adequate armour on the Humvees, the US military has been having to cut back a lot over the past decade or so due to a reduced and often poorly-applied budget. But even so, more armour is not always the best thing to have. No matter how thick the armour, there's always something that can break it, especially when the armour makes you into a large, slow-moving target. Sometimes manoeuvreability and speed is better to have."
The military budget has gone WAY up during the past five years. Also, as far as armor on Humvees goes, the troops seem to think it's necessary as they have been improvising their own. There's no ground vehicle on Earth that can outrun a bullet.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 05:16 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but I know this is NOT photoshopped. I am related to the driver. It was painted in the states, picture was taken in the states.
Posted by Chiefsgal on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 03:27 PM
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"But, but, but... you can't jump in through the windows! It's insane!!!!!!!"
And, even worse, I'm told female soldiers aren't allowed to wear Daisy Dukes!!!
"Been there (twice) and yes lots of us drove around without doors. may not appear safe, but the "armored" doors aren't all that armored and it makes de-assing the vehicle a whole lot quicker so you can respond to enemy fire or run like hell which ever the situation calls for."
That's just sad. This thing's been going on now for, what, three years and we STILL can't put decent armor on the friggin' vehicles? Why don't we just paint targets on the backs of the troops' uniforms?
> years and we STILL can't put decent armor on the
> friggin' vehicles?
Sure we do... They're called tanks. Trouble is, tanks aren't very useful for patrols.
Photoshop some "Hillbilly Armor" on this kikazz humvee
http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1258652
From that same thread, this is some guy's description of the original picture:
"looks like a photoshoot in camp. Also looks like the UK's repair shop seeing as how there is a British flag behind them, trucks with hoods up, and a tank sitting around them. This is why the humvee is missing doors. A driver would be highly unlikly to carry a SAW...kind of hard to get that bigass gun around to shoot. More likely to have an M4 or a PDW or some kind. I'm thinking it is more of a hey, ya'll look at us, we have machine guns and are playing with a .50."
"You want something heavily armored, it has to be slow. You want something fast, you limit the armor. You want something fast and heavily armored, it has to be either very big and powerful or only carry one or two guys. Big doesn't do well on patrols."
Well, since some troops have taken to trying to fashion their own armor for the Humvees, I guess they think that the smaller vehicles need to be armored, too.
Not by the US, but how about by the other militaries involved?
And as for not having adequate armour on the Humvees, the US military has been having to cut back a lot over the past decade or so due to a reduced and often poorly-applied budget. But even so, more armour is not always the best thing to have. No matter how thick the armour, there's always something that can break it, especially when the armour makes you into a large, slow-moving target. Sometimes manoeuvreability and speed is better to have.
"And as for not having adequate armour on the Humvees, the US military has been having to cut back a lot over the past decade or so due to a reduced and often poorly-applied budget. But even so, more armour is not always the best thing to have. No matter how thick the armour, there's always something that can break it, especially when the armour makes you into a large, slow-moving target. Sometimes manoeuvreability and speed is better to have."
The military budget has gone WAY up during the past five years. Also, as far as armor on Humvees goes, the troops seem to think it's necessary as they have been improvising their own. There's no ground vehicle on Earth that can outrun a bullet.