What is Neo-Tech???
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Posted By:
Chuck
in Rhode Island
Jul 13, 2005
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<a href="http://www.neo-tech.com" title="www.neo-tech.com">Neo-Tech</a>
And you thought Hubbard was a nut.
a brief excerpt
"Neo-Tech not only lets man prevail, but lets each individual predict and then profitably control his or her future without boundaries or limits. Neo-Tech is personal liberty and universal freedom -- Illuminati power. …Flowing from countless ten-second miracles, Neo-Tech delivers endless riches, health, and romance."
hmmm...maybe its just beyond my comprehension.
I noticed references to the film "What The Bleep" on this site as well which is discussed in another thread on this forum.
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Mandilon
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 | 12:40 PM
These two pages convinced me that I NEED to read at least 100 of the 1200+ pages:
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God Bless |
frank.bi
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 | 05:21 AM
To which I say:
http://www.wap.org/journal/emailrules/spam.jpg
Come back when you actually have something of substance to say about Neo-Tech and its lies. |
KJB
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 | 03:29 PM
I was just introdused to thei Neo Society. Up until a week ago I did not know it existed. I am amazed that people have such strong views on Neo Tech. I cam to find out if whether or not I should consider reading this material. But I am reading in some places that this is an Anti-God book. Wow! I had no idea that this book was a hot button issue.
I was born Catholic, I do beleive in Gos but I sometimes question religion. Does this book also questions Religion or God.
I know plenty of spiritual people who do not believe in religion because they beleive Religion causes wars, prejudice and conflict.
I really need opinions, Can this book really open my eyes, or is it just an anti-christ book? |
frank.bi
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 | 10:26 PM
KJB, do you want only "opinions", or do you want facts? Can you tell us what kind of opinions or facts do you like (so we can avoid giving you opinions or facts you don't like... or maybe not)?
If you want to question things, you may want to start by reading Karl Popper's essay "Science, Pseudo-Science, and Falsifiability":
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/critical_thinking/Science_pseudo_falsifiability.html
(Then if you still want to read some Neo-Tech material, check this out:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060517025940/http://www.neo-tech.com/neotech/pax-b1/c3.php ) |
frank.bi
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 | 12:41 PM
(Just to clear things up: Popper makes a lot more sense. Seriously.) |
KJB
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 | 11:03 AM
Thank you for the links. I just browsed through it and have not yet read the entire thing.
I am hearing that the Neo Tech Society is anti religion. Is it anti religion, or anti-God? I do believe that people can be spiritual and can believe in a higher being, but does not necessary believe in organized religion. These individuals know right from wrong, understand and follow the Ten Commandments (well as much as they can). That does not mean they are atheists. It just means that they pray to the higher being or God the way they feel comfortable.
Is the Neo Tech Society encouraging Atheist or is it encouraging spirituality within us? I am just asking questions here and would like to hear both points of views. |
frank.bi
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 | 12:56 PM
KJB,
Neo-Tech is an MLM scheme -- simple as that. This is not just an "opinion", it is not just a "point of view", it is a _fact_. As proof, here's Mark Hamilton's message in his own words:
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU |
KJB
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 | 09:48 AM
Thank you for your input Frank.Bi. You seem to be very passionate about this. I read books like "The secret" and "Chicken Soup for the Soul". I thought this book would be one of these self help books.
I was still a little conflicted on whether or not I should read the Neo book. Someone told me to pray on it. And I did. I asked God or the higher being to give me a sign whether or not I should go and read this book or follow the Neo Tech teaching. Like I said I always believe in God and spirit of being. Although I was raised Catholic and I consider myself Catholic, I do not agree with everything Catholicism. Just like being an American, I do not have to agree with every political or government stance, but I do love and support my country.
So I did pray on in. And on Sunday this mystery occurred. I laid on my bed and closed my eyes and again asked God for the sign I was looking for. And out of the blue my husband (who is not a very religious man) asked me about the word |
frank.bi
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 | 09:59 AM
KJB,
Again, Neo-Tech is just a good old MLM scheme. This is not just an "opinion", it's not just a "point of view", it's not just another "input" from a "passionate" person, it is a _hard_ _fact_, as shown by this message from Neo-Tech boss Mark Hamilton himself:
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU
If you insist on dodging this inconvenient fact, then I can conclude that you're not actually here to engage in any actual discussion. In which case, if you don't want to discuss, then... don't. Good day. |
KJB
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 | 10:23 AM
What is there to discuss? I came on this thread to find out people's thought on the Neo Tech Society because I wanted to know more about it. I am not one of these people who just put my two cents with knowing real facts. The links you have sent me are of one opinion. Sometimes for someone to make an inform decision, he or she must know all the facts and hear both sides of the issue. I did not come on this thread to argue, I came for some sort of guidance. I would think as someone who is so against the Neo Tech movement, you would be happy that there are some people who love their God so much, they do not want to get involved in anything ungodly. You make it seems that if I am not here to put people beliefs down or degrade them, I am not allowed to give my input.
I am not an angry individual, I believe that everyone has their own beliefs and opinion and for you answer me in this rude manner it shows me that you are a very angry person. I can love my brother and sister without having to have the same beliefs as him or her. I do not have to put the person down because I feel their beliefs are ungodly. This is not a dictatorship country.
So what that the Neo Tech Society is an MLM and is trying to squeeze people out of their money. You are doing what you think is best, which is warning people of what you believe is a scam. But I do not think it's appropriate to be rude. |
frank.bi
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 | 01:24 PM
KJB,
"So what that the Neo Tech Society is an MLM and is trying to squeeze people out of their money. ... You are doing what you think is best, which is warning people of what you believe is a scam."
I must admire your great "logic" here, KJB. Even though Neo-Tech is obviously trying to bilk people of their money, it's only my "belief" that Neo-Tech is a scam -- not a fact!
Yes, this is not a "dictatorship country". And that means _I_ have every right to debunk obvious rubbish. And right now I'm only exercising this right. And if you think that's "rude" -- after all, that's just your opinion, isn't it? -- then so be it.
Again, good day.
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU |
frank.bi
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 | 01:44 PM
Pax Neo-TeX: "In my opinion, it is a fact!": A Quick Guide To The Differences Between Facts And Opinions And How To Use Them In Principled Templates To Vanish Pipping Value-Destroyers
http://fzort.org/bi/neo-tech/act3.p.02.php#act3basso10 |
Harcortm
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 12:31 AM
Well Bic or Bi or whatever you call yourself, you are still on your anti-Neo-Tech scam kick.You need to quit sucking off the government titty and get a real job. |
frank.bi
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 02:12 AM
Harcortm, thanks for making yet another illogical personal attack.
Anyway, my job is definitely way more "real" than that of Neo-Tech's Mark Hamilton, who "real job" involves starting an MLM scheme:
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU
As well as that of Neo-Tech's Barbie Diamond, whose "real job" involves telling lies for Neo-Tech:
http://www.able2know.com/forums/a2k-post2344061.html#2344061 |
Harcortm
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 02:57 AM
I really don't care what "Mark Hamilton" or "Barbie Diamond" does for a living. You really have a job Bic? You spend so much time flaming people I figured you just had to be on the dole or sucking off your gov's titty.
Maybe the Neo-Tech material exposes something about you that you are obsessed with. |
frank.bi
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 07:31 AM
Harcortm, I'm sure you don't care what Neo-Tech does. But _this_ _thread_ _is_ _about_ _Neo-Tech_, so if you want to launch nonsensical potshots at me instead of discussing Neo-Tech, go do it on your own web site.
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU |
harcortm
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 06:59 PM
You do not discuss Neo-tech, you flame everyone you come in contact with. Big difference. LOL. |
frank.bi
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 11:06 PM
That claim of yours has nothing to do with fact. And besides, even if does, two wrongs make a right?
http://www.able2know.com/forums/a2k-post2344061.html#2344061
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU |
harcortm
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 11:12 PM
The facts are in your posts. You can't deny you are a flamer! |
frank.bi
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 | 11:17 PM
The fact is that I've been posting links to information about Neo-Tech, and you've been throwing mud at me non-stop.
And the fact is that Neo-Tech tells lies.
http://www.able2know.com/forums/a2k-post2344061.html#2344061
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU |
Mandilon
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 | 08:24 PM
Are WE talking about the http://badbusinessbureau.com/ OR the http://betterbusinessbureau.com/ ???? |
MichaelThomass
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 | 04:05 PM
This is MichaelThomas trying to reach Mark Hamillton.I haven't forgotten anything just forgot
my personal nc number for new members. you know I
think its a ten digit number.just email me like that whole page you sent me via mail.I already have my three installments read it all;so its already downloaded in my brain.I'm words can't explain how I feel so I hope you get this message
Mr.Mark Hamillton.
take |
frank.bi
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 | 12:18 PM
MichaelThomas, is this the next "instalment" you're looking for?
http://www.webcitation.org/5Pb8g1TxU
It seems to say something about joining Neo-Tech's pyramid scheme to help them peddle their books. Sounds like some exciting future... |
Former neo-techie
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 | 09:55 AM
I became a neo-tech "owner" in 1986. I had a thriving driving school practice back then and was very successful mainly because of my work ethics which were bolstered by the neo-tech "teachings".
Back then, neo-tech ownership came with a Biological Immortality certificate which you could "redeem" when BI became available. Well, to make a long story short, I did experience the temporarily uplifting "freedom" from "oppressive" religion, gov., etc. But I did not attain the countless millions of dollars that neo-tech implicitly promised.
Fast forward to 2001. After 9/11 Frank R. Wallace wrote a long piece condemning terrorists which included a long list of possible future terrorist scenarios including nuclear explosions. After this diatribe Wallace began to sell WAR. Yes, war. Pre-emptive war. It was at this time that I, as a thinking being, began to question neo-tech. I researched the history of the company and its principal and discovered many unknown and unsavory thing.
I discovered that neo-tech was nothing more than a compilation of many different bits and pieces of objectivist philosophers' writings which conveniently ignored the many objective areas of "mystical" philosophies.
Now, Zon, the civilization of the universe, etc. have their merits but objective they are not. These concepts are actually faith-based until proven - they are mystical!
On January, 2006 Wallace was run over by a car. No one is happy for this. But now the company is left to the heirs. They are running it now as club or society. All the online books have been withdrawn.
In-depth analysis comes with maturity. To all those who are new to this topic I can only suggest: do your own thinking! |
Freedom Matrix
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 | 07:34 AM
IF some of you people would open your minds beyond a few pages of a book or a letter you received from Neo Tech and actually mentally digest what F.Wallace was talking about you would see and not be so confused.
Here's the main ingredient....Biological Immortality. It's all around us but on a small scale in the Bio Tech fields.
If we achieve this state of human immortality in our life times.... what can we achieve next ?
Most people spend their lives distracted by there jobs,television,sports,media,church,IRS,politics,non value producing events that lead you in a cycle to repeat what has already been done before your birth and that's a road to disease and death.
If we cure disease and death we can have the time to look further into the Universe and accomplish more events that Mr. Wallace spoke of.
IF you are alive on this planet for hundreds and thousands of years into the future....well then what happens to those of you sold on theology..where is your dogma leading you now?
You realise....a supreme consciuosness. Who's the architect of the Universe Now?
Religiouis Faith is pretend and Fantasy like a child believing in Santa. The Elite group of families have laid it out for the general masses to believe in this sort of thing to control you and make you a slave in the labor matrix.
Wake up world and wake up Consciuos Minds.
We have the power to achieve Greatness beyond what we see today. We need a mass infusion of people from all levels to want and value their consciousness to exist beyond the average life span we have today.
Once you die my friends....it's over.
What will life be like living into the future with youth rejuvenation and not growing in a sense of the body breaking down and decaying as we see our elders today and for those of us who will be there very soon if we don't change our mind sets and do something about it.
That's all for now...........wake UP! The Rabbit Hole is as deep as you want to go ! Stay asleep and everyhting will stay as you know it to be now.
Good Luck !! |
ps_in_mass
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 | 12:08 PM
To Seize the Power of Satan is to realize that there is no such thing as Satan. It is really quite enlightening once you do. |
Jim
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 | 04:45 AM
I read the Neo-Tech books, and all I have to say is that it changed my way of thinking which has really helped me out in most aspects of my life. Neo-Tech is what helped me see clear and be happy. If all of you want to believe in something else to make you happy, than good for you. No everyone is going to always believe the same things. |
Kat
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 | 09:18 AM
Jim in Chicago... I have not read the book. I came to this site to find out whether it's worth it. I have been going through "changes" and have been doing a whole lot of reading. I can send you my e-mail address so we talk a little bit about it. I just wanted to know does it help, does it work, and will it make me question my spirituality. That is my concern, I love my God, and I do not feel comfortable reading anything that will pull me away from spirituality. |
Fred Schell
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 | 11:43 AM
Well I have found a miracle page on neo tech. Awe come on folks, neo tech is an honest and open approach to living. With No one telling you to feel guilty of making an living and raking in the cash. People everywhere have their hands out waiting to grab up your hard earned cash. So why not earn cash easier with some passed down abilities that come with purchasing and reading neo tech. Much of what I read in it, to me it is true. As in all aspects of good sound life style and making income a person must apply themselves fully and they will surely benefit. But along with these things things comes a realization of individual power over self and others. |
Kat
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 | 01:14 PM
Fred.. I really need to know more about it.. can you e-mail me. This is something that I have been thinking about reading but with all of these anti sentiments, it makes me wonder if that will conflict with my religious beliefs |
Randy Hall
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 | 12:50 PM
Hey, I was really glad to hear the mixed opinions on Neo-Tech on this site. As everyone knows they are all over the web. First of all I want to make a comment to gc. I am a Christian and I believe in God however until I read neo-tech about 4 years ago (and it was somewhat scary)and let it sit in my head over the years I have become closer to what I call god and alot of people call alot of different things. I realized that God, Zon, Universe, buddah or whatever you call it is the life that is breathed through every living thing and human beings are the only living organisms that experience CONSCIOUS LIFE. In other words we have the capacity to introspect, look within(I), and see ourselves in relation to past present and future. If you want to criticize what I am saying I completely understand because I have been in your shoes about 4 years ago and what I realize now is that I was so close minded that I couldnt imagine ever going back to the way I was. As I have thought about Neo-Tech over the years I have become more spiritual and more fullfilled than I ever could have imagined and I aslo realized that what I had been taught about god was nothing for anyone to preach that I have ever heard because you cannot ever get close to god without getting close to yourself and getting inside your head for a while and moving things around, rewiring beliefs that donot serve you, and becoming more aware of what you are not aware of and your eyes are closed to. It is completely counterintuitive and just doesnt seem right in fact there was time when all of these things in my mind were imature and I really tried to turn my back on what I called god all my life but, as it matured in my mind I realized one day that I am so happy and so much more fullfilled than I have ever been in my entire life and that kind of spirit shines through only to the extent that you remove the mental blocks that keep it from shining through. No matter what we all believe there is a unified field out there that we cannot escape as long as we are alive and the more we get to know ourselves and remove personal mysticism the more we begin to accept that we are so devinely peacfully imprisoned in this field. I recommend any man who reads neo-tech to check out double your dating by david deangelo as far as the women I wish I could point you in the direction of someone who is equivelant if someone knows anyone I would love to know. And its not about dating although that is a huge power that men let have control over them blindly in alot of areas but its all about becoming the best you that you can possibly become. It is nothing to be scared about gc I understand where your at and I would even be willing to bet that you do not feel completely comfortable with religion and its okay to be there I once was as well. I am all for Neo tech 100 percent, my life has changed for the better 1000 fold since I have read it, I am more spiritual than I have ever been, more succesful, and life just keeps on getting better it is eye popping to realize that some things we have honored our whole lives actually imprison us. I welcome everyone who is for Neo-tech or questions it to email me any time I would love to speak to you and hear your experiences I can almost bet you I have been there my email is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) you guys have a great day. |
Gavin
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 | 11:00 PM
I have read the Neo-Tech Discovery, and the Neo-Tech's book on Business. For those individuals that love their God and want to find something that they can bring into their lives that can also incorporate their God...This book is not for you. It aspouses Atheism.
As far as the business book is concerned, Mark Hamilton talks about making one company that is responsible for one aspect of the business and that (generally run and worked by only one person) is responsible for the Marketing, Accounting, business management, ect. All revenue is given to the overall owner of the business every month and the aspect owner is paid a commission. Now this business plan is just plain stupid. If anyone here has a degree in business or evein taken a business 101 class in college, the falacies of this business model are glairing. If one person is is in control of everything, then that person can rob that part of the company. There is a reason for departments and sub-departments in a business. The reason is checks and balances. The only reason why a business should split off for any reason is for asset protection, and the department devisions would still be the same.
Oh yeah, and Frank, just live and let live man. Nothing is worth getting that heated up about. BTW, in case you want to say that I am heated, no I'm not. I am just giving you a synopsis of what I've read. Noting more, nothing less. |
expatinasia
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Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 | 02:03 AM
"aspouses"?
Is that the neo-tech spelling of "espouses"? |
hello
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 | 10:35 AM
Sydney Steel said:
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OK, I've read The Neo-Tech Discovery and the Neo Tech System and will report on what I've learned. Neo Tech offers completely common sense and pragmatic strategies for achievement. The writers constantly stress the importance of eschewing mysticism in any form. Mysticism includes oppressive governments, astrology, numerology, religion and anything that requires the individual to defer to a higher authority. They maintain that the highest authority is human consciousness and one should not seek guidance from a mythical higher authority such as God but learn to rely on oneself for answers. I see nothing of a scam involved.
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the scam is that they promise you supernatural powers, but when the book arrives it is all completely "rational" as you describe!
that is what paypal refers to as sending off for a book and receiving a brick!
the book is interesting enough, but it is also
very dogmatic, where they tell you that this authority is good eg The Atkins diet is good,
and the other authority is bad.
much later when the further advert for further supernatural powers arrived I ignored it knowing
there would be no such.
the book is just yelling at you that this is what you should do and this is what you shouldnt do.
no room for argument or debate, no uncertainty.
some of the advice is very perceptive but some is baseless.
they refer to one lot of famous philosophers as neo cheaters and bad, and another as absolutely good.
They attack mysticism but their ideas are also a mysticism: any baseless set of beliefs is mysticism even if the beliefs are true or non religious.
theirs is a world where everything is either absolutely bad, neo cheaters, or absolutely good. black and white with no shades of gray.
it is the most dogmatic document I have ever read,
which tells me that the authors are themselves highly insecure people who arent able to be critical of everything.
requote from Sidney Steeles post:
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They maintain that the highest authority is human consciousness and one should not seek guidance from a mythical higher authority such as God but learn to rely on oneself for answers.
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yes, but they then replace god and your consciousness as authorities by themselves and their indoctrination manuals.
they DO NOT teach you to rely on your own counsel but to rely on Wallace Alexander and Savage's counsel. (the authors)
furthermore the authors dont appear to rely on their own counsel but have blind faith in Ayn Rand, Atkins diet and various other AUTHORITIES.
it IS morally a scam because the book that arrives is COMPLETELY UNRELATED to the promises in the advert letter.
technically legally it isnt a scam because there is a refund guarantee. |
hello
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 | 12:46 PM
further to the previous post:
the central idea of Neo Tech is:
Aristotle is GOOD
Plato is BAD
the authors clearly have studied philosophy, but clearly are also not good AT philosophy as they are unquestioning of their hero authority figures.
for them philosophy is a religion, they havent understood that philosophy is a process and a central part of the process is to doubt EVERYTHING. In fact for them everything is a religion. The central problem with their system is a total absence of doubt.
someone has brainwashed them and they now set out to brainwash everyone else.
their view is very right wing economics, they are against tax and altruism, and believe that the free market is some kind of panacea.
eg they overlook that the free market is based on REAL secret societies and isnt really free!
I certainly learnt some useful ideas, and its a useful way to get a reading list. But their ideas would be better in a self-help paperback for say 10 dollars.
I object to people posting me a brick when I order a book. Their advert letter is TOTALLY DISHONEST and is just a trick to get you to send them money.
I dont mind buying a rationalist book or buying a mystical book, but I object to someone selling me either by DECEIPT.
they are fundamentalist bigotted rationalists, as bad as any other fundamentalist bigots and use trickery to sell their wares.
they talk about value cheaters, but they themselves cheat the values of all the great thinkers they damn unconditionally. |
hello
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 | 01:52 PM
one last post on this,
Neo Tech are pro free market, but anti mysticism.
but the free market is run by secret societies which are highly mystical.
one of their more interesting ideas is that of value cheaters. Their idea is that the only worthwhile activity is to create value eg to fashion some metal into cutlery would be to create value. Transporting the cutlery and advertising and selling it would also be adding value.
but eg gambling doesnt create value.
that there are value cheaters who set out to destroy values, eg many of the people who appear as guests on tv and radio programs, as well as many politicians.
they explain how to tell if someone is a value cheater.
the document can be interesting by being so unambiguous and biassed and specific!
alarm bells should ring when you read the initial advert as that is clearly sweet lies, saying the recipient is some kind of chosen one!
the authors of the work are psychologically repressed in a major way. They must have belonged to a severe religion, and are rebelling by going to the opposite extreme.
but that opposite extreme is just as bad,
for people interested in a rationalist approach to life, I recommend Wayne Dyer's "Your erroneous zones" which is a much more mature and balanced approach to emotional rationalism.
I think Neo Tech are onto something, but are overzealous to the point of dishonesty.
summary:
1. dishonest advert
2. interesting ideas, but intolerant and bigotted
and too brainwashy
3. overpriced
4. their work needs a bit of editting.
I think their value cheater idea is good and they could expand on how to detect cheating including their own cheating! |
Tha Mella Yella Fella
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 | 02:48 PM
I have been studying the Neo-Tech literature for about 5 years now. From what I have been "indoctrinated" with, you are the exact definition of a mystical value destroyer. You are creating problems where none exist.
I can only conclude that you must be extremely threathened and/or frightened by Neo-Tech. How sad for you. For by dishonestly attacking value creation, you expose your own hidden envy of not only Neo-Tech, but also all value creators.
However, on the remote chance that you are HONESTLY interested in exposing the FACTS, I will attempt to correct some of the out-of-context assertions and outright lies you have made.
First, lets start with the advertising you refer to as dishonest. The "supernatural powers" comes from using an Objective, RATIONAL understanding of nature to control it for the benefit of the individual. An easily understandable example of this is the Hoover Dam, which corrals and exploits the Colorado river. The power in their marketing strategy comes from an understanding of Human nature. Most people desire to be happy, healthy, wealthy, smart, in-love with a partner and a career of endless oppurtunities. So they use that desire to activate not only your left-brain logical thinking center but also your right brain creative and adventurous child of the past.
This combination is what drove you to pay for the "over priced" book. I imagine that you were one of those individuals searching for specific instructions on what to do acheive your dreams.
Alas, you found no such authority in Neo-Tech.
Instead they turned the focus back on you. They forced you to examine your own irrational behaviors, thoughts, and beliefs. It is clear that you obviously ran into a few facts about yourself or your beliefs that you dont agree with. Instead of launching ad-hominem attacks against the ideas you disagree with, try using the always powerful tools of honest integrated thinking and effort to root out the cause of your concerns.
Secondly, believe it or not, you are already benefiting from Neo-tech. I encourage you to keep reading and thinking about the ideas you agree with as well as those you dont. The "supernatural power" doesnt come from BELIEVING Neo-Tech ideas. The power comes from APPLYING Neo-Tech ideas.
In the 5 years that I have been studying Neo-Tech, I went from being broke, unemployed, and depressed to a productive career as a truck driver, an accomplished musician/artist, and I just started my first business a few months ago.
(http://www.4-11connection.com)
I dont have the spectacular wealth advertised in the sales literature yet but I can now clearly see the map to get there and I am currently on my journey.
My parting words to you and any other individual looking for an HONEST way out of a dead end life of unhappiness, boredom, and destruction is this:
Neo-Tech is by far the most effective, quickest way to break from the self-imposed chains of mysticism, dishonesty and laziness. Once free, all individuals will NATURALLY flourish towards a life of guiltless prosperity and happiness. |
eman12jesus34
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 | 02:06 PM
has any one been contacted by the illuminati? i want to know! |
oyna
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 | 01:59 AM
It introduces and uses a new (new to our current anticivilization anyways) technique (so neo tech) defined as fully integrated honesty, that identifies and solves each and every problem in life through an unbiased and objective approach to reality. It |
oyunlar
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 | 12:41 PM
Many people will call it a scam to hide their lifestyles, the very ones that usurp wealth from the 'common' man through power that people simply hand over. Neo tech is release from that power on what begins at an individual scale and will eventually spread to a global scale. There is nothing you can do about it but embrace true life and freedom on this planet and in this universe. |
Freedumb
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 | 01:20 PM
I'm starting to read a neo-tech book and it isn't encouraging you to do evil things or brainwashing your mind with myth's and religions.
I feel it states solid facts and they sure do open your eyes and make total sense!
IN A REALISTIC WAY, and not some fake made up way, from people who want to make you a slave.
It is a positive thing and encourages your mind to think greater then it might normally think
for living/working in the real world.
Sure its not free, but it will set you free if you let it! |
Carcajou
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 | 12:44 PM
I am not sure that I would classify Neo-Tech as a hoax (I have read it); it is not like you are getting something that is completely worthless, though it will do minimal good.
Human beings have both the ability for logic and emotion. These must work together correctly in a fully developed ego. Neo-Tech is a method of developing or freeing the Super-Ego, and reducing the ID. For a person that is too emotional, and does not apply logic as they should, the text can provide pointers for ensuring that they achieve a form a balance. However, to use it exclusively will lead to faulty action, at some point.
This is even proven in the writer's life; he took in incorrect data, and made faulty decisions, resulting in his tax woes. This is the danger of pure logic in an illogical society. Had he been more balanced he would have heard his emotional side screaming in fear as he chose to break tax laws, using faulty logic. His emotional side would have recognized he was outside of the norm and would have used fear to keep him out of trouble.
This is how it should work; a balance between analysis and base emotion. Any system that claims to develop a portion of the human system, without keeping balance, will eventually destroy the person.
Even though Neo-Tech is not a hoax, in that you can achieve results through it, that does not make it good... |
Paul
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 | 04:58 PM
I've read Neo-Tech, researched it, and met many other readers, including society members.
My perspective is this:
Neo-Tech has a lot of valid, and valuable information and perspectives. And it has benefited me personally in my life, if nothing else, by directing me to the writings of others that it was based on. Without doubt, Dr. Frank Wallace {Wally Ward), was a very intelligent, insightful, and I would say brave man. This is reflect in hos work. On the other hand, the Neo-Tech Discovery and all of the other texts, in my opinion, also come with a lot of un proven bullshit. I don t think that I would really call it hoax, because A. the author and his closest followers, I think, actually, do believe a lot of the bullshit, and that which they do not, they justify to themselves, that their mesage is just so important, that they are allowed to lie...
But truth be told, the author himself, never actually achieved even a small fraction of what he says anyone who reads his books will achieve, and their ways of advertising are now, just as they were many years ago, full of bullshit.. just different bullshit.. I think that they justify this to themselves, as they are utilising the mysticism in others, in order to save them from their mysticism.
As far as the society that dates back so far, I think that that is complete concoction. 15 or so years ago, Frank Wallace discovered NT through poker, but now it is an illumanati-like society that has been around so long. As far as all the stories of these highly successful people, in the society, and anonymous media personalities, etc. , I have found no evidence of it, and I have been in communications, with a few NT summit meeting participants.
My personal story is that they sent me a pamphlet about a year ago, telling me that I was at a turning point in my life, and the members wanted me in, and that if I responded thry would send me a 48 page booklet. I didn t respond and they sent me the booklet anyway, because the members knew all about me, and they wanted me in, so needed to purchase the Neuveau Tech book...
Of course, if they really knew that much about me, they would have known that I had already purchased that book over a decade ago.. I have the same name I did then. I just live one town over.
Also, they might have known that under that same exact name, I posted on their message board for over year, one of their most frequent contributors.
What I do know, is that they get their names and addresses from mailing lists. If you ever requested information about anything having to do with making money or self-growth, chances are you may get a letter from them, telling you that you are special, and they want you as a member of their society.
I'd just like to add, that I have very many friends and associates who are "Neo-Tecnicians", and none of then are crazy like that Darius guy...
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Jay
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 | 01:40 PM
Sydney Steel, well written and Thank you. Instead of ranting on a meaningless forum go and educate yourselves, and always keep an open mind....... |
Thomas Kroger
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 | 01:49 AM
Wow! I remember of hearing of Neo Tech years ago as a scam, but hadn't realized that it has metastasized into an internet operation. Apparently, it has gotten quite sophisticated, because they were able to send me their infamous first letter from The Secret Society in only a few weeks after I ran a Google search and apparently visited their website. I still don't know how this happened - how they were able to get this information. It is a little unnerving. The "giveaway," for me at least, was when I encountered one of their esoteric "jargon" terms - "neocheating" - in the "first letter." I had suspicions before then that this was a scam and rip-off, but that was enough for me. |
Adam Evenson
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 | 03:50 PM
I received a series of letters from the "Neotech Secret Society." The letters were so radically hyperbolic that it piqued my interest to see just what Neotech is about. The come-on is that the Secret Society is peopled by the richest folks in the world and that for just a few farthings it is possible for little people, such as I, to be taken in by these mountains of financial success where we can hobnob, rub shoulders, etc., with all the wealthy greats and be given all the secrets to wealth that the "Greats" have used throughout all human history. I took the bait just to learn what the scam is about, as I am certain that no rich man gives a Tinker's Dam for anybody he doesn't even know and would not dream of sharing his knowledge about wealth with the likes of me. Neotech's promised "treasure trove", which would make me a "Lifetime Member" of the "Secret Society" is a 1500 page book that costs $245.00 with my name written on the front cover, which, just for me at that moment, and if I ordered immediately, was discounted to only $139.95. I had the money to blow, so I bought the book to see where it might lead. By and by I was showered with praise from Neotech's offices, telling me what a wise statesman I must be and that I am the luckiest man in the world. Within a month I received another letter that stated that I was n-o-o-o-o-t quite a lifetime member just yet, though (as per the previous promise), but I would have to buy in for another measly $99 for the price of another book with my name on the cover that was worth at least $10,000, which would give me ALL the secrets that the first book didn't provide as orginally promised. If one fails to keep responding by sending more money for ever more "great secrets of the wealthy," (which are never actually revealed in any of the literature) one is ejected from the "secret society" without as much as a "so long, thanks for your cash." There you have it, folks. Neotech is a carrot on a stick that sucks dumb donkeys along pulling a plow behind them. If one wants to be a dumb donkey following a carrot on a stick hanging just inches before its nose, then one should join Neotech's "secret society" and make its hierarchy even more filthy rich than it already is at the expense of many other dumb donkeys that went before. It's a heartless scam that is probably illegal if somebody wanted to pursue it to a legal conclusion in a court of law. I think there must be only a very few individuals in said hierarch living somewhere in expensive mansions with automated systems that generate a lot of revenue with bogus promises that lead nowhere for the sucker except empty pockets. |
Adam Evenson
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Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 | 09:09 AM
Folks, it is as P.T. Barnum put it, "A sucker is born every minute." Neo-tech may and does contain some good ideas, but it is primarily being employed by a hierarchical business structure as a con game that takes advantage of the same reality Barnum did: the human propensity to be sucked in and then sucked dry, as though poking a soda straw into a willing person's bloodstream that watches and allows while the con artist sucks out one's vitals. I received the same letters enumerated above. My first alert of numerous were twin stories (in the same package) of the "Mystery Man of Las Vegas," in which an "ordinary mortal," another man, was elevated to the "Mystery Man's" own heightened greatness by reportedly little more than osmosis (i.e., just by reading a few ancient words in a special text supplied by the Mystery Man.) In the same package of material I received, a WOMAN swore that SHE was the one that had met the "Mystery man of Vegas" in the same way and that exactly the same thing happened to her as a result. Evidentally, in Neo-tech, one hand knows not what the other is doing at times. Which one was telling the truth, as the the exact same set of complicated realities does not happen to two people in a row? A gender switch had taken place in the two stories. First it happened to a man, then it happened to a woman. Either the story of the "Mystery Man of Vegas" happened to a man OR a woman, but the same set of facts could not have have happened to both at times removed from each other. I am not a believer in government interference in people's lives, but in a case as blatantly fradulent and criminal as Neo-tech, the law should step in as it does in other kinds of con games that are designed to bilk otherwise honest people out of their hard-earned cash. Somebody needs to file a criminal complaint. Ah, but every sucker is too ashamed to report it to the cops, right? This is but another thing that all con games employ for leverage against suckers. Welcome to the real world! It is sometimes dirty, treacherous and heartless. Try to remember this the next time you find a soda straw stuck in your jugular vein and an animal, that may or may not resemble you in kind, is standing on the other end sucking on the straw. |
John
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 | 10:43 AM
As demonstrated somewhat in this thread it is not always a good thing to have an opinion unless ran through the rigorous ringers of reality. That means taking everything you've learned and testing it out in reality. Neo-Tech is in no way a scam. There are three books in all, that introduce Neo-Tech to you the reader. In all three books there is almost 3000 pages to read in all, alot of people will default on the effort it takes to read all of them all the way through unless they see a change that they want and some people may just get to lazy to actually learn what is in front of them or just completely forget what it is they have read or just remember bits and pieces of it which is alot like taking something out of context , alot of these posts here are what I call the deer in the headlights concept where they only see the middle of something and not the beginning all the way through the end , I would have to say that if these small examples of problematic reading occurs with you maybe you should not be reading at all and definitely not be giving reviews on it , but seeing how interesting and how mind blowing these books are, the reading goes by very easy, fast, and without difficulty. I have read all three and currently rereading them. I've discovered these books to be the very best things, information, techniques I've ever read. I too had strong doubts about religions after totally immersing myself in them hoping to find some promise of wisdom or just simply a piece of mind before finding Neo-Tech Books. Ive learned that alot of things in our society work to divide ourselves innerly which then allows us to be conquered , taken advantage of or controlled for others unearned gains or advantages. But that simply is just one or two sentences of what I've learned and what actually is in there. That is only a tiny bit of information. These books offer life-saving values and life flourishing values for the reader. To be honest these books will show you how never to be taken advantage of again, scammed, or rip-offed in any aspect and on every level. Everything is very well written except for the occasional typos. I thought there was always something more to life and these books helped me discover that there really is. These books showed me what life is all about. I was lost before I had these books. So please try to be respectful that these books offer advantages and life-saving values to people in an honest legitimate way.
Neo-Tech is totally honest and ethical; it is not based on fraud, collusion, gall, hustling or swindling as are most cheating techniques and con jobs. Indeed, Neo-Tech requires no special skill, devices, or nerve. Neo-Tech requires no risk or changes in life style - only a new integrated knowledge that generates advantages and power. Moreover, Neo-Tech renders deception and cheating ploys so obsolete that they are no longer an important threat.
By the way Neo-Tech is not a mlm. The only value exchange that occurs is money in exchange for the books and for the website if you want to continue learning and meeting others that have studied the information which gets to the fundamental nature of everything it discusses. Also the books explains everything there is to know point blank about Neo-Tech or any website or any thing that stems out of Neo-Tech. If you received it for free you would not deem it necessary to intensely pull out the value for yourselves in turn learning nothing. If you have these books you are lucky. I believe everyone should own these books if you enjoy reading or looking for answers on how to live the life you were meant to live. I want to add that I did not enjoy reading before I found Neo-Tech books. I found answers in these books and in turn have quit wasting my time on the matrix of deceptions and illusions we are bombarded with everyday. |
Adam Evenson
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 | 04:45 PM
John in Georgia, I appreciate that you think Neotech is such a great thing, but I'll stay with what I wrote. |
John
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 | 04:57 PM
Thanks and I too will stick with what I wrote. Have a nice day. |
John
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 | 04:58 PM
And it is not just that I think Neo-Tech is such a great thing as you said. In reality it really is. |
Adam
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 | 07:55 PM
Ah yes, John, but sometimes reality is such a stingy thing, as it depends upon whose it is. Thus, I think you think, and I think I know what I know. But, who am I to quibble about mere reality, as I am only one of its many creators? |
gomaze
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 01:35 PM
I too was suckered into buying the "Book of Neo-Tech". I agree that this is a scam and should be shut down by the justice system. This is a pathetic attempt to spread the dissease of Atheism. People with half a brain will reject this poorly written Neo-Tech religion bashing 1000 pages of garbage without a second thought, but of course the ones on the fence are real targets of this scam. A thoroughly confused person is easy to convince of just about anything.
These idiots will attempt to convince you of anything if you are willing to listen to thier BS long enough. Let's face it, anyone one promotes incest as good if it is "good for both consenting adults' has at least one loose screw. |
John
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 01:56 PM
Nobody is trying to convince anyone of anything, They are just giving their own doses of reality. Whats the problem with that? This is not a scam in any kind of way and those books are priceless to me. You should let it go because you have no valid criticisms everything you said is BS in itself. Anyone can tell what an idiot you are just by how you talk. Full of contradictions , lies, ad-hominem attacks and hypocritical bs, you should learn to respect other peoples ideas and stfu. Anyone can just as easily repeat everything you said right back to you because it is of no real substance or reason. Especially the lies you added in there for good measure, your a value destroyer and a hater. Why dont you go get a real life and learn how to use your brain smart guy. oh wait your gonna say learning and reading is for losers? Go figure... The BBB has it at a B grade just because the company is not considered big enough or it would have an A. Why don't you quit crying and call the justice system yourself you whiny brat. You must be one of those crazed idiots to make an accusation of incest. What a total moron. |
John
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 02:05 PM
You offered not one fact in your little ad-hominem rant, uneducated idiot. Ive studied this literature for years, what have you done? |
Elaine Ray
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 03:36 PM
I just want to say that I have read many of the writings of the Neo-Tech Authors. I find it interesting that people spend so much time complaining about feelings of being taken and/or ripped off in some way pertaining to this subject matter. We all are responsible for the decisions we make...If I buy a dress with some imagined idea that it will work for me; knowing it is not REALLY my style, I have only myself to blame for realizing I am not comfortable wearing it and should not have bought it. I'll chalk it up to experience and move on - no harm done.
If I needed to build a boat that would sale humanity away into safety, then I would have to come up with the funding to build a large enough boat to carry away the masses into security. So if I buy a book that seems alittle high ended; when I realize that my purchase is helping to build the boat that will save me; I might just buy one or two more to make sure my family could come along for the ride.
Today's politicians are using tax dollars to retire away on as they sale the Bahamas leaving poor old Americans behind in the dust bowl of this 20th Centuries suppressed economy. You should see how the Twelve Visions Party, http://www.tvpnc.org is funded by book sales and private contributions to help put an independant candidate in the Presidential office.
Why? To End Political Corruption.
So why not let go of these negativities that strain your exhistence and move forward into the meaningful life of peace and prosperity you were meant to have?
I have nothing bad to say about Neo-Tech, or any other thing which I choose to become involved with. I am in charge of my decisions - NO ONE ELSE! Take Care All, Go out and play for awhile....you'll feel better.
And above all, stop yelling at each other! Share alittle love for your own humankind.
TheUndefeatedLife |
Adam Evenson
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 05:28 PM
Well, John in Georgia, what have I done in relation to you, a man that has "studied the literature for years?" While you were putting all those years behind you, I've remained but an "uneducated idiot," proudly hanging onto his bucks. Don't forget: a sucker is born every minute. With all that many suckers running around loose, neotech can survive without me. Heck, the head of the thing lives in a $4M (USD) mansion, doesn't he? Sorry, neotech, you just ain't got it, and you ain't got me, get it? |
John
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 05:38 PM
Well Adam from Al, figures you would use my post in response to gomaze to add further confusion to this conversation. You dont really believe I was responding to you do you? |
Adam Evenson
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 05:40 PM
Also, John in Georgia, although I was not the gent that dredged up the incest claim, nonetheless, I have read the literature and the former chemist that started the whole thing, that is no deceased (his name doesn't come to me right now), did write that incest is okay so long as it is "psychuous." He advocated brother/sister, father/daughter, mother/son, and so on, although he did state that it was a better idea to seek outside one's closest kin. I would say that one should seek as broad a gene pool as possible if one is looking to have children, and that incest should be illegal even into the farthest flung distance, like 50th cousins and beyond, as I am convinced that widespread incest is one of the main reasons man is so screwed up. But that's just me. Ta-da. |
Adam Evenson
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 | 05:58 PM
John in Georgia, I had an inkling, but I couldn't be sure. I thought I'd throw it in just in case. I am quite mentally and intellectually secure, and I sometime have fun bantering back and forth with folks that are not so secure. I'm also a natural born teacher that groomed myself even beyond nature, just to see what I can see, as I teach myself more than anybody. I suppose one could accuse me of being a cat that plays with mice. To such a judgment I couldn't say nay, but at least I don't eat any "mice" I play with, as I am a vegetarian. I cause a lot of inward reflection, which, in my reckoning, is not bad. It also reinforces the solitude that I love and which sustains me. Actually, I am stranded on a beautiful island with not another soul on it, and now and again I toss bottles into the ocean with notes in them. Occasionally, a bottle with a note in it washes up on my shore that doesn't bear my handwriting. It tells me that there is another entity or entities somewhere out there, but it is impossible to communicate this way, right? So I just have a lot of fun tossing bottles with notes into the emptiness around me. Ha, ha, ha. |
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