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Gentropy
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 11:30 AM
I read this book recently. The angles and ideas were neat but overall I found the writing style to be a little off for my taste.
Nice work piecing together history. Makes me feel like joining a secret society.
The mention that people are not supposed to read the book seems to ooze 'insecurity'. Why doesn't the church have an nice big book burning festival?
Ridiculous. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 11:32 AM
As we all know, they use to have book burning festivals. Good thing it's against the law now. |
Katherine
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 12:04 PM
Book-burning is against the law? Really? Where?
Couldn't you just get together with a whole lot of paper-shredders and still have fun? |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 12:12 PM
Isn't it against the law????? |
Rod
in the land of smarties.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 12:25 PM
The author of the book says that it is fiction. End of story.
So why is the church bothering? Because people will believe anything they read; even if you tell them it is false, some will still believe it.
And hey, even though the church knows it is fiction, it's still a different viewpoint that theirs, so it MUST be eradicated. |
X
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 12:40 PM
They don't like the idea of someone, from their view point, making a fictatious story about Jesus.
Allthough, I have heard that there are more books of the doctrine that were not included in the bible that states the same claim. Seen that on Discovery channel. |
MrKurto
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 04:09 PM
i'm actually going to defy the Cardinal and read the book. All this controversy just makes me want to read it more.. in fact, i'm going to the library right now. Ha! Stupid Cardinal Censorship, take that! |
Nettie
in Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 04:13 AM
This, to put it simply, is why I'm an athiest. |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 07:24 AM
nettie said - This, to put it simply, is why I'm an athiest.
So, the only reason you're an atheist is because you want to defy the Church? I'm honestly not trying to be offensive here, just curious. The reason I'm an atheist is because I've never managed to take the whole "God" thing seriously. I just never needed a mythological figure in my life.
Unless she's hot.
😊 |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 07:28 AM
Im pretty much with Charybdis. I would worship Kathy Ireland if she would just remove that damn restraining order!!! 😠 |
Nettie
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 07:42 AM
The reason I'm an athiest is because of all the stupid bullshit that goes along with it all. You can't just have a belief, there's all these rules and can and cant do's, read this, don't read this, go to church, have faith in something that can't be proved, don't argue, suck the priests...hang on, getting sidetracked. I just find it easier to think what I want to think. As long as you're a generally good person, does it really make that much difference? Will reading a work of fiction make me a bad person? I don't think so |
Charybdis
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 07:43 AM
OFF TOPIC
That's not what I want her to remove. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 07:47 AM
HA!!!!! nettie said "[censor] the priest" LoL |
Winona
in USA
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 07:57 AM
Hey, if anyone does listen as stops reading the book it'll probably make the people at Saint-Sulpice Church feel better. Apparently the tourists following the clues have been quite a disruption. |
Razela
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 03:28 PM
Are book burnings really illegal? I don't see why they would be. I mean, if I wrote a book it would be great if there was a book burning for it. First the people burning it would buy a hundred or so copies of it to burn which I would recieve royalties for, then there would be controversy and media surrounding it creating free advertising. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 03:41 PM
The girl makes a point. Lets endourse book burning!!!! (I'll let Alex in on the secret)
Want me off the shelf???? Then buy me. Then the publishers would have noooo problem printing 30,000 copies. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 09:24 PM
If you ask me, the Catholic Church would have done way better to just ignore the book entirely; all they've done is give it a bigger scandal, and thus more publicity.
Seems to me that by telling people not to read the book, they're saying "Everyone who feels open-minded go buy the book."
In my opinion, the book still looks like it sucks regardless of the scandal, but the average bear eats this kinda stuff up. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 | 09:25 PM
I assume you'd need a permit for book burnings. Otherwise people would complain of smoke-related ailments. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 | 12:15 AM
To add a point of theoelogical reality to all this, the bible in many translations has the disciples referring to Jesus as "Rabbi"; Although the translation is often "Teacher", the original Aramaic is more correctly the former.
Now, since all the disciples would have been Orthodox Jews, then calling an umariied man "rabbi" would be like calling a pre-ned student "doctor" today: Marraige was part of the qulaifictaion of rabbis, and still is today if memory serves.
either these guys were as defiant of their church as people are today ( There was a word for that at the time - Essenes. ), or there's more to the gospels than the Catholic Church will admit. Anyone heard of the St Matthew Juvena, for example? |
Rod
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 | 12:30 AM
Is "theological reality" not one of the biggest oxymorons ever? |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 | 03:27 AM
An atheist such as my self couldn't care much less about how Jesus lived; in today's world, all that I think is important is how people think he lived. I would think that the early Christian church would obfuscate the years of Jesus's life to suit themselves, anyways; and I would think that every Christian power since would distort history to suit themselves--it's simple politics.
Wasn't The Man Nobody Knows just a good manager anyways? |
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 04:42 AM
Rod, "theological reality" rather ties in with Citizen Premier's opening comment: Theology is the study of a religion based upon its manifestations, writings and ramifications. There is no actual need to believe in the religion one studies in theology per se, but the rigor of academic study still applies. Comaparitive theoleogy is the further study of several religions to ascertain patterns of difference and similarity.
And Citizen Premier, you cannot be an atheist as such cannot exist; "Athiest" means literally "Without a belief system", and if you believe strongly that there is no valididty in religion, then you _have_ a strongly-held faith, don't you? |
Rod
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 07:13 AM
But if none of it can be proved to be real, where is the "reality"?
Don't you recognize humour?
Next you're going to tell me that "military intelligence" is not an oxymoron, either. |
Rod
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 07:15 AM
And I don't know where you got your definition of atheist, because every single definition I have seen includes the fact that an atheist does not believe in a god or gods.
NOT just "without a belief system". |
The Curator
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 08:53 AM
I took a couple years of ancient greek in high school, and I don't think the original meaning of atheist is 'without a belief system.' Theo is greek for god (from which you get names such as Theodore... gift from god). Atheist would simply mean 'without a god'. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 01:02 PM
Today I think it means "without a mystical belief system." If you want to join an atheist club, you usually can't believe in luck or spirits or the like. |
UsuallyDark
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 01:21 PM
Burning books is not illegal, idiot. Our governments just don't engage in that activity anymore simply because it would evoke images of Nazi germany and because they're trying to avoid censorship issues. |
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 10:29 PM
<ponders United Church of Christ ad beside all these atheist statements>
There _has_ to be a good punchline here, but I can't think of one. Blast my lack of wit! Maybe we fall under the "no matter who you are" part of their welcome? |
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 10:32 PM
Oops! It omitted the first line:
--ponders the United Church of Christ ad beside all these atheist posts--
There _has_ to be a good punchline here, but I can't think of one. Blast my lack of wit! Maybe we fall under the "no matter who you are" part of their welcome? |
Rod
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 | 10:52 PM
Yeah, I clicked on that ad, just to see what it was all about.
I don't think it's surprising at all that a commercial calling everyone but themselves racist bigots did not make it to the air.
And the Bonsai Kitten one comes up every once in a while too, just like the "shroud thread" has an ad which pops up every once in a while proving the shroud is real. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 10:02 AM
I'm sure that no european governments would involve themselves in book burnings any time soon; but I don't see why it would be illegal to fuel a bonfire with your most hated books, provided the fire didn't get out of hand. There's nothing illegal about being a Nazi or any kind of bigot in America. |
Maegan
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 10:40 AM
I burned CDS once. I couldn't sell them & I didn't know anyone who wanted them. Some of the CDs had those little leaflets in the front of them that tells you the lyrics & who wrote what...That's sort of like a book.
Also, I tore pages out of old fishing magazines to help start a fire...that caused really prettily colored flames. |
Katherine
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 11:09 AM
Ack! They say it's bad to burn plastics, as it releases carcinogens into the air. |
Yvonne
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 02:10 PM
I don't know about books, but I tried to burn catalogs and a magazine, once. They don't burn well unless you tear them apart and crumple the pages so that air can get in the spaces. If you leave them whole, they just burn on the edges and the center is untouched.
And the inks and glossy paper make a really bad stink, almost as bad as plastic, and with blue and green flames. 😛 |
Winona
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 06:28 PM
If you want (a very unsafe) but really pretty fire you can do like we did a few years ago... we had some rocket engines left over from the summer, so we spent a lovely evening cutting them up and burning them in a campfire. We had all kinds of gorgeous colours including the nicest purple. |
Rod
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 | 06:43 PM
On the (off topic) subject of cool looking fires, take some powdered cinnamon and throw it at a flame some time...
It CAN be done inside, but it's not exactly safe. Doesn't stop them from doing it at the bar, though. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 | 04:49 PM
Isn't that cardinal just a LITTLE late? After all, the book's been out since 2003! Timing is everything! :roll: |
X
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 | 01:56 PM
I am almost done reading the Di Vinci Code. This is such a great Book!! I knew I have been right all these years about the Church. Some people do require FAITH just to make sense of their existance. |
The Curator
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 | 03:18 PM
I read that about a year ago. The guy who wrote it is making so much money from it, it's unbelievable. And initially a lot of publishers turned down his book because they thought it would never sell. |
X
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 | 03:38 PM
I can tell that in this Christian based country, it would have been a huge risk. Im sure that when Cardinals started complaining about this book, it increased sales again! Thats when I bought it. I think people need a fresh perspective on their religion. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 | 10:45 PM
honestly ... when someone is all PLEASE DONT READ THIS BOOK!! ITS EVIL... Doesnt it make you wanna read it more? The sheer curiosity of what the book is about is more than enough stimuli. But when someone tells you not to read it .... i usually end up reading it. And the most annoying thing about this situation is that half the time the person telling you not to read the book usually hasnt ever read it themselves. crazy isnt it?
*i wrote a research paper on book burning. and yes ... i got to find out how crazy people really are when you hand them a book and a match. |
X
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 | 09:07 AM
I took some Matches to Alex's Book. After about an hour, I gave up.....Damned thing won't burn!!! I was told if I throw it away, I would get FINED because if a child finds it, I could be charged with Educational Abuse of a Minor. It now just sits on my toilet next to the George Carlin Books because it won't Flush either..... :ahhh:
Just kidding Alex!!! Everyone that is a member in here NEEDS to buy his book, it's a good book, soo why haven't you all bought one. He has bills to pay!!!! |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 | 09:26 AM
...My magazine burning doesn't stink.
Shut yer trap. |
Joe
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 06:13 AM
Please, can anybody explain me, what the program "Da Vinci Code generator" does? Does it generate the Da Vinci Code?
I've downloaded it here:
<a href="http://www.soft32.com/download_102778.html">http://www.soft32.com/download_102778.html</a> |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 06:32 AM
Well, if you've downloaded it, then you should know what it does. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 07:46 AM
Ummmm; click on that link Maegan, and tell me what happens. |
Boo
in The Land of the Haggii...
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 07:55 AM
"Da Vinci code generator" produces code, encrypted using 1000 variants of the God's name.
From the link he posted.
:roll: |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 08:24 AM
No way. I'm not clicking it. |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 08:25 AM
It's like when stupid fish or whoever posted that link about the most annoying page. I don't just click on links willy-nilly, ya know! |
Boo
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 08:33 AM
I clicked it. It's fine.
And it answers his own question. |
Maegan
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 09:26 AM
Riiiight, unless the REAL Boo clicked it and was then replaced by a FAKE Boo. I'm on to your tricks. I'm NOT clicking it. And Real Boo, if you're still in there somewhere...we'll find a way to get you back! |
Boo
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 09:33 AM
I am real Boo.
Cross my heart and bunny rabbits! |
Boo
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 12:08 PM
The following article explains what the real problem with the DaVinci Code is, asides from being a monumentaly mediocre piece of "literature".....the "truth" behind it all is one of the biggest hoaxes of all time....
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2004/12/29/da_vinci_code/index.html
...I thought someone would have pointed that out right away.... |
X
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 01:01 PM
All I see is someone trying to make a quick buck to join his site so we can read how the book is a hoax. It will allways be argued over..... |
James Howlett
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 01:55 PM
I just like to spread the truth. It's NOT my website by the way. I am making no profit, BUT it's a well written, well researched article. There's no point in arguing over it at all. Mediocre book, based on another mediocre book that's nothing more than hoax. That's it, end of the "debate". Why argue against the truth?
Being that this is a web site devoted to hoaxes thought I should bring that to folks attention.
I find it scary how people will believe ANYTHING they read, and parrot nonsense back and forth as fact. |
X
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 02:44 PM
I enjoyed reading the book....I like hearing different sides. I do agree it was a mediocre book, but still, I love hearing stuff that tries to prove the bible wrong. It is entertaining. I never take anyof it seriously. The same for the bible. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 03:56 PM
The thing that bugs me, is that now every declares that it's Mary Magdaline next to Jesus in Da Vinci's Last Supper; despite the fact that men wore their hair long in those days, and there really isn't any evidence to suggest that it's a woman. |
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 05:00 PM
Rod said "The author of the book says it is fiction. End of story."
The story line is fiction but the author contends the research he did in terms of history and such is legit.
Considering the reaction by the Church, ie the Cardinal, it really makes you wonder just how close to home Dan Brown has hit, no? 😊 😉 |
Papazombie
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 | 05:38 PM
Just a thought...
What is the church going to do when the movie hits? Last I heard, Tom Hanks is starring in it. |
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