LaMa
in Europe
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 | 02:48 PM
Damned! This does not look good for me..... |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 | 03:01 PM
When I was 16, I worked at a Grandy's Restaraunt. I wanted to Cook and the manager told me, "Actually" told me that I was too attractive to work in the Kitchen and felt that it was best for me to stay in the lobby. |
Hairy Houdini
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 | 03:10 PM
Forgive me... I dislike being touched... an Eastern prejudice |
Sharruma
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 | 09:19 PM
I dunno
I mean I am the most handsome man that ever lived
and it doesn't seem to have done much for my career.
Now please excuse me while I go and check that my chauffer has polished the Rolls. |
dog
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 06:51 AM
I give the pretty strippers more 1's, so I guess there's some truth to it. |
Gentropy
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 07:19 AM
In reference to the statement of Mr. Dog I recently read an article about strippers leaving the U.S. and going to Canada. Most end up making more money despite the exchange rate. If you account that the smallest Canadian bill is $5.00 I am inclined to believe it. Of course it may just be another excuse for me to perform a 'field study' and perform numerous 'interviews' in the champagne room.
I was hired once based on my looks. It turned out the interviewer was gay and it played in my favor. |
The Curator
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 09:09 AM
I think this is totally true. It's the tyranny of the beautiful.
However, as the article suggests, attractiveness isn't a fixed, unchanging variable. Working out, dressing well, etc. can make a huge difference in how someone looks.
And then, of course, there's the well-documented 'beer-goggle' phenomenon, that the perceived attractiveness of other people increases depending upon the amount of alcohol one has consumed. |
Maegan
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 09:18 AM
I was just involved in a thread on another board, regarding "beauty". Some people thought that beauty really couldn't be judged, b/c as they grew closer to someone, their looks became more attractive to them. A very "good looking" ex-husband became ugly to the ex-wife shortly after they seperated.
I can see using height or weight to determine if shorter/taller/fatter/thinner people get paid less or more...But if a scientist goes into a building & 5 women decided not to wear makeup & 5 who don't normally wear makeup DID wear it...their results are skewed.
At work, I wear jeans, a t-shirt & I put my hair in a ponytail. No makeup. When I go out w/ hubby, I wear a skirt, hose, heels, makeup, some type of jewelry...significant difference. I put mascara & lip gloss on when I get HOME from work, b/c my husband arrives shortly after I do. I just like to look nice. I get paid a little more than some people, not as much as others in my same position at work. |
X
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 09:26 AM
Don't forget about the sexual energy some can give off. Lets take Angelina Jolie for example. Not the prettiest woman in the world, but the sexual energy she gives off can easily be confused with beauty. It is very strong and confident. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 09:36 AM
I agree certainly with Maegan that looks can change and they can be perceived differently by different people. One interesting population to study might be politicians because they need to appeal to many people to get ahead. Personnally, I'd vote for Shania Twain. |
Rod
in the land of smarties.
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 09:38 AM
Believe me, just because the 1 and 2 dollar bills were turned into coins, does NOT mean we don't throw them at strippers.
I haven't actually been to a strip club for years (I have to go to another province and hey, I have the net, so porn not really hard to get...).
Some of the things guys do is stack their loonies (ones) and toonie (yes, twos) in a glass of ice and toss em, or the REALLY sadistic jerks heat em with a lighter... (good way to have the bouncer "chat with ya").
And they say Canadians are nice. |
X
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 09:46 AM
Rod, I have a question, do Canadians ever joke around about the name of their money (Loonie)?? |
Rod
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 10:05 AM
How could you make a joke about something named "The Loonie?"
Seriously, I haven't heard a joke about it in years, now that you mention it. But when Loonies came out the freak running the country was named Mulroney, and hey, that rhymes! Use your imagination.
Well, I was gonna write it out, but i found a link to the one that popped into mind...
http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/95q4/moonie.html
My own personal observation is that they should have had the titmouse on the coins. 😜
I'd LOVE to have somebody showere me with THOSE! |
Gentropy
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 11:50 AM
They don't have strip clubs in your province?? You don't live in Nunavut do you?
So many neat tricks to try with the 3 lbs of coins in my pocket. Although sometimes you think you are poor and out of money and it turns out you still have 10-20$ sitting around in change.
In any case I always use the ugly coins first. |
dog
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 11:56 AM
I don't know about up north, but where I live there's very few ways for strippers to hold coins. |
Rod
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 12:08 PM
Nope, not Nunavut.
And I did a little looking... I believed that all of them had been closed. (There WAS only two).
I was right, but as they say, "for a limited time only". Now there is one. It was closed for a while but re-opened. The reason they don't fly here is because they are not allowed to serve alcohol.
And for dog...
No, no handly little extra crevices. But it does take them a few minutes to clean the stage when they're done. I'd imagine if people threw a few hundred bucks in coins at me, I'd probably find a way to pick them up, though. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 | 01:18 PM
When did plain become a euphemism for ugly? I thought it meant average.
And it would seem to me that any employee who had something special to offer his or her boss would do better; and visual pleasure is something to be offered. |
Smerk
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 | 12:26 AM
I can say that I've been rejected for a job based on my looks - they thought I looked too young...gets me into a lot of trouble looking too young! |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 | 08:02 AM
I have had issues with that myself. |
Nettie
in Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 05:06 AM
Doesn't that just shit you! I'm 26! I still get asked ID to get into the casino. I haven't needed ID for 8 years! AAAAHHHHHHHHH!
Deep breath, calm down nettie, you will be greatful in twenty years. |
Boo
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 05:18 AM
I recently got asked for ID when buying a bottle of wine in the supermarket where my brother worked.
Of course, I carry no photo ID with me, because all I have is my passport. I haven't been asked for ID in six years.
To make it worse, my brother (just turned 18, six feet three tall) was standing beside me going 'I've got ID'.
Brothers. Who'd have 'em? |
Charybdis
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 07:21 AM
As far as strippers go, I've found that you can tip coins to the ones wearing boots. However, when they start flopping around in the seizure that they call dancing the coins tend to roll out and clatter around the stage.
Or so I've heard.
I do like using dollar coins for most other purchases, though. It just seems more exotic (no pun intended) but that will eventually pass and I'll consider them inconvenient like everyone else. |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 08:02 AM
Some strippers have a certain talent when it comes to picking up coins, ummmmm....So I've heard. |
Rod
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 08:25 AM
Yeah, strippers and coins is a thread better done elsewhere...
Ever seen them pick up a dollar bill with no hands? Just as entertaing.
AND nasty. |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 09:15 AM
...So...any of you uglies getting jipped on your paycheck???
::hopes this gets people back on topic:: |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 10:09 AM
So, Maegan, How much do you earn???? |
Charybdis
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 10:28 AM
Spoilsport. Ok, more on topic - I don't feel that I'm paid anywhere near what I think I deserve for the work I do, and I'm ugly. Coincidence? Yeah, almost certainly. While I don't think they discriminate based on looks, I do think they discriminate based on intelligence. We have several brain-dead employees (who couldn't handle a complicated job like standing on a street corner being poked with a pointed stick) who should be looking for jobs elsewhere but somebody likes them (or is afraid of being blackmailed) and so they stay on year after year. |
X
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 10:36 AM
Well, I make $34K a year. Not bad for a Highschool drop out with a GED. I do plan to make more in the future. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 02:23 PM
Stick to it Stephen. That HS diploma doesn't mean as much as some want you to think. |
Smerk
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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 | 05:53 PM
Yes, high school was a bit of a waste of time...don't know nothin' 'bout anythin'. So have most of my other studies. Except for the course which got me this job oh so long ago. And no complaints about my appearance here either. But that could be because I'm about 15-20 years younger than anyone else in an all-female firm... |
X
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 08:16 AM
I want to work at an all female firm!!!! |
Maegan
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 12:41 PM
$30k base...$35k w/ shift differential...$42k w/ gain share...assuming profits stay up until the end of the year!
And my husband considers me GORGEOUS...but then again, he has to live with me. 😊 |
Maegan
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 12:42 PM
...There is a salary cap for my position...My base wouldn't be able to go past $40k. Minimum is $20k. So, I'm right in the middle. |
X
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 12:51 PM
You little tease you!!! Gorgeous and makes more then me!!! 😜 |
Razela
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 05:06 PM
I actually saw a show about the importance of looks in getting a job on a T.V. show. It was from a pretty reliable show, but for the life of me I can't remember which one. Anyways, here's the gist of what they did:
For their first experiment they took two women who were actors, one who was beautiful, and one who was fairly ugly. They dressed them up in the exact same clothes and had them stand on a street corner by a "broken down" car to see if anyone would pull over. The ugly women had to wait 30 minutes before anyone stopped and was just told she was out of gas and there was a gas station a 1/2 mile away before the one man left. The pretty women had men stopping every few minutes and about 6 men even drove to the gas station and brought her back gas for her car.
For the second experiment they had the same 2 women go to a few job interviews each. They both went to interviews for the same jobs and had very similar resumes and were trained to act alike and have the same background and wore the same outfit (remember, they were actors). They also had 2 men, one good looking and one ugly, do the same thing for a different set of jobs. In all cases for the men and the women the better looking person got the job.
Really makes you think. In fact, I studied an expirement in phsycology where they showed pictures of good looking and ugly people too newborns, and what do you know? the newborns stared longer at the pictures of prettier people. |
Smerk
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 05:34 PM
Stephen, you may think that working at an all female firm would be nice, but just think about all the downsides...And our firm, I think that we haven't been hired on looks (except for myself, maybe). 😉
Razela, can you remeber if the people who conducted the interviews were male or female? I wonder if that makes a difference?
I remember one story when I was in secretarial college about one girl who had a nose ring. Nobody would hire her when she turned up at interviews with the ring in. When she took it out, she landed a job. |
Razela
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 08:48 PM
Interviewers were both male and female. It made a difference in that it turned out that the males cared more about the looks in other males they hired while the females were harder on the looks of the females they hired. All in all though, every interviewer hired the better looking person. |
Smerk
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 | 09:02 PM
Interesting. |
X
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 08:18 AM
Actually Smerk. You are right. I work with mostly females, and the hormones are crazy at times. I just sit back and laugh though. |
Maegan
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 08:28 AM
...I don't know that the broken down car scenario is very helpful. I've been in that situation & I had someone stop as soon as they saw my hood go up (husband & wife)...another time I had to hoof it a mile to a gas station. Someone THERE gave me a ride back, but it was a mom w/ a van full of kids. Sometimes I've told people I'm okay, b/c they look creepy and/or weird...just to get them to go away. "It's okay. I see my husband's police cruiser coming!" (He's not a cop.)
Also, I'm from the south...people just stop to be nice. I've done it. |
Smerk
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 | 06:02 PM
Stephen, as long as you can handle taking orders from women, you'll be fine. 😉 The last guy who worked here had a problem with that, but he still lasted 2 years. |
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 | 12:55 AM
I sure do make more.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 | 04:58 PM
A woman in her forties-
I still look like I'm in my twenties. I've struggles throughout my life with this issues. This summer, I had three more comments, one exceptionally painful. A man asked me to be his wife and have children with him. He asked me what year I was born. I was honest and said in the 1960's. He broke off the engagement immediately because I was too biologically old. He thought I was much younger. Two women that I work along with asked me my age. I lied and said that I was in my thirties, they said that I did'nt look that old. Pssst- I'm in my forties!!!
I have always struggled professionally because of the biases of looking too young.
My next move is facial reconstruction!! It has to be done! I cannot live like this any more! |
