Science Points to a ‘Sixth Sense’
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Myst
Feb 21, 2005
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Interesting article in Yahoo news. I don't find it hard to believe that we humans have a "sixth" sense. We are after all animals and therefore have some hardwired "instincts". It is that gut instinct that tells you not to cross the street just yet, then suddenly there is a car wreck which would have killed you had you crossed the street, or you know, without knowing why you know, that somebody is following you Of course the "instinct" doesn't work 100% of the time either, if it did deer would not be caught by the mountain lion and the mountain lion would go hungry. Then again the car accident scenario doesn't really fit into this model does it? What clues is the brain picking up on? Is it dumb luck, coincidence?
Snip from the news:
THURSDAY, Feb. 17 (HealthDay News) -- Ever get a gut feeling something just isn't quite right, and make a decision accordingly? Science is beginning to suggest those instincts may have roots deep in the brain.
Research in young volunteers points to some kind of "sixth sense" -- a mechanism in the brain that picks up on subtle clues, then sends out subconscious signals of trouble ahead.
The finding could help explain certain intuitive phenomena seen among humans. For example, in the recent Asian tsunami, aboriginal people sought out higher ground in the moments before the disaster, as did many wild animals. Could subtle changes in weather or the environment have warned them early on?
<a href="http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=97&e=20&u=/hsn/sciencepointstoasixthsense" title="Link to story" target="_blank">Link to story</a>
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X
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 03:31 PM
I allready knew that stuff, I don't even have a college degree. |
Terry Austin
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 03:42 PM
It's rather disingeneous to call a talent for intuition a "sense," especially a "sixth sense." In that context, sense means:
2 a : the faculty of perceiving by means of sense organs b : a specialized animal function or mechanism (as sight, hearing, smell, taste, or touch) basically involving a stimulus and a sense organ c : the sensory mechanisms constituting a unit distinct from other functions (as movement or thought)
Which intuition is not.
And it's hardly a surprise that some, even most people, have intuition. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 03:54 PM
"They" just wan't proof though. |
Citizen Premier
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 04:37 PM
The aboriginals felt the earthquake, and, living on an island, knew from their culture that a tsunami would follow. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 04:38 PM
Besides, there would be no weather indications of the coming tsunami, it was not a weather-related incident. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 05:12 PM
Citizen Premier said...
Besides, there would be no weather indications of the coming tsunami, it was not a weather-related incident.
This would kind of depend on your definition of weather wouldn't it? As well as your definition of indication, would it not? If earthquakes and tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, etc... are not weather than what are they? I was a Weather Observer for the USN from 1987 to 1991. They are indeed natural aspects of the earth considered weather. As for an indicator... how's this for one? You're standing on the beach and the waves / surf is gently lapping at your ankles. When a wave comes in your perhaps five inches deep in water then in recedes before the next wave comes in so in essence you're again on dry land. Point being that you're right on the shore... with a tsunami coming, the ocean / water recedes quite considerably immediately preceding the wave. So, if you're ever standing on the shore and the ocean seems to just dissappear, if you know these facts (or actually even if you don't know that fact) you have just received an indication that a tsunami is coming! RUN LIKE HELL!!!! |
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 06:10 PM
weather:
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1. The state of the atmosphere at a given time and place, with respect to variables such as temperature, moisture, wind velocity, and barometric pressure.
Not to be anal, but the movement of tectonic plates, or landslides, whichever caused the tsunami, are not related to the atmosphere. |
ted2
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 | 10:09 PM
If you see all the animals in the jungle running for higher ground, it doesn't take much smarts to know you should follow. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 | 09:59 AM
Actually, if you see the surf recede 2-3 hundred meters, you might be inclined to draw the conclusion that when it finally DOES come back, it'll do so in a pretty bad way. Anyone who has spent any time watching waves come in at the beach can tell you that. The farther the surf recedes, the bigger the next incoming wave will be.
Aboriginies tend to be a lot more in tune with their enviroment because they don't have a lot of protection from it. No need for a sixth sense there. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 | 11:45 AM
Dear Citizen,
OK if that's what the dictionary says then I guess we'll have to go with that. But someone who's on the water, in rough seas, under an otherwise OK "atmosphere" would probably beg to differ... as does the USN. I also noted that in that definition it didn't say that the list of variables was complete or all-inclusive. You really don't consider our oceans as part of our weather system? Therefore a volcanic eruption would definately qualify as weather right? Or not? It DEFINATELY effects the atmosphere. Besides weather, as we all know, isn't an exact science and is still very much in its' infancy. So how do we know absolutely that barometric pressure, previous weather, or other possible variables aren't somehow connected to plate movements. OH, that's right... because Webster didn't say so... |
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 | 03:39 PM
Actually, I used Smarterchild! And I wouldn't call a huge landslide "weather," whether (aha) or not it's related to the atmosphere. I can't see how it would be, anyways.
So there! |
X
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 | 03:53 PM
Will you two quit bickering. and Citizen, lay off the pot. |
Mark-N-Jen
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 | 04:03 PM
Citizen,
Smoke all the pot you want man... it makes for interesting conversations and opinions at the very least. 😊
So if landslides, earthquakes, tsunamis, and volcanic eruptions (or did you concede on that one?) aren't weather... what would you call them?
BTW - Whatever dictionary you use doesn't matter, language is used differently by many in many places. Not to mention that language is constantly changing and evolving... not trying to provoke you here, just bullshit with ya a little, but I wouldn't consider it gospel just because you got it from a dictionary. Like for instance, if your dictionary is say 2 years old would you deny the existence of the word "blog" just because you couldn't find it in your bible?
Also, back to the original point I was trying to make... no sixth sense involved with the animals or natives leaving for high ground as there were definately "indications" they just went unheeded by most. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 | 10:45 PM
Irregardless, people like us should follow the dictionary. It helps alot in terms of clarity, I can tell you. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 01:12 PM
Yeah, if I see a fifty foot wave comming in, My sixth sense tells me "Hey, you dumbass, get outa here, theres a fifty foot wave infront of you".
If it wasn't for my finally tuned instincts and spelling skills, I would have swallowed too many marbles as a child. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 01:29 PM
LOL I just love to see all of you at work!
I personally think looking at the aboriginal people surviving the tsunami was a bad case study. More than likely there are tribal stories which tell them what to do should the waves suddenly go way out. That was the purpose for many legends and myths within different cultures.
As for having a "sixth sense", have any of you ever had a time when the hair on the back of your neck stood straight up and you didn't know why until you turned around to find someone staring at you or following you.. It is a real feeling, a sense that doesn't work through what we would view as normal means (eyes, ears, etc).
Try this experiment next time you are out at the mall or any other public place. Pick someone out of the crowd and stare at them. Eventually they get very nervous and begin looking around for the cause of the "feeling" they are having. It can be quite entertaining. Oh, just be sure you don't pick out someone who may decide to kick your butt for staring at them or their significant other! |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 01:50 PM
Myst,
I definately know to what you're refering and do indeed believe that we don't know our abilities / capabilities entirely. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a sixth or even seventh sense. Because I don't believe that scientifically you could rule them out any more than you could prove them. Take your example for example. 😊 Especially at this point in mankinds evolution. My point was that I didn't believe there was a sixth sense involved in the aboriginal / animal fleeing story due to the fact that there were plenty of indications that the tsunami was coming. Like you said, perhaps they had been warned through their culture, and whether or not you call the warnings weather... there were indeed indications. It was just a matter of whether or not you recognized them. The animals acted on the indications instinctively and I believe native peoples (of most places) are far more in tune with nature than the beligerent Western Civilization. Perhaps instinct itself is the sixth sense... maybe we should apply for some grants??? 😊 |
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 01:56 PM
PS - If you're so interested in following a dictionary Citizen... please use yours to look up that word you used in your last post. You know, that word "alot". In case you're not in the mood, let me fill you in. Alot is not a word in the English language. Look all you want, you won't find it. Like I said, language is used differently and always changing... 😊
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X
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 02:10 PM
Let me give you all a simple experiment, this isn't me just trying to be funny either.
It works like this:
Lets say you are driving down the road, and you hear a train. You don't see a train yet, but you know it is there because of the sense of "Hearing"
If you smell food comming from a house, all though you can't see it OR hear it, you know there is food, and even what kind it is. That sense tells you. Your body will even react to it, you get hungry.
Then we have this sixth sense, It is used for something we can't smell,see, hear,touch, or taste, BUT, why is your body reacting to something???
If very few people knew how to smell, they would think you were crazy for being able to sniff out food.
I'm rambling...but remember, your body reacts to all senses. Just think about it. |
X
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 02:22 PM
Ok, so it's not an experiment, I lost my point of focus. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 02:32 PM
Like I said... perhaps instinct itself is our sixth sense. I think Uncle Sam should cut me, you, and Myst a $150 million dollar grant check to study this further. Don't you? They've paid to research a lot more ridiculous stuff. BTW - You hear a train, so you know a train is coming. I disagree... you hear a train, so you THINK / assume a train is coming, and when it rounds the bend for you to see your assumptions are then justified. But if you hear a train, couldn't it be Bugs bunny on one of them little crank cars with an airhorn? More evidence would be required before you KNEW a train was coming is my point. 😊 Like I said before, just killing time. |
X
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 02:48 PM
So, let me correct you now, lol....EVEN, EEEEEVEN,if you just see a train, your assuming as well. One time I assumed I saw my girlfriend at Wal Mart, and I went to pat her on the butt...You can figure the rest for yourself. All senses can be just a matter of assumption. Some people think they see ghost, turns out to be a coat rack. Remember senses are electrical pulses that can and do get manipulated. |
X
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 02:59 PM
I'm just BULL SHITTING!!!!!! LoL, I understand where you where comming from, but don'y anylize what I said too much, you will miss subtle clues behind my madness. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 03:01 PM
Actually Stephen you couldn't be more right. I guess we'd just have to step onto the tracks in order for our experiment to be valid and determine for sure whether or not there was a train. 😊 Perhaps we can get someone to volunteer... just not me! 😊 |
X
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 03:07 PM
With all the use of the smileys, I am assuming this is "Jen".
I have been thinking too hard, I get off work in 1 hour. Need Mochachino and Miller light. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 03:14 PM
Stephen,
Great, so you think I come off as a girl. The use of the smiley's come from:
A - This site, and some of these people on here really crack me up. The regulars are quite funny and the gullibility of some of these guest posters is undescribably hilarious!
2 - As mentioned before my public speaking abilities, and ability to convey a particular idea or train of thought are somewhat lacking. Sometimes I come off as being a smart-ass when in fact I'm just trying to further a discussion. So... I try to keep the mood light with the smiley's.
BTW - If you see me while you're out having that Miller lite... please don't hit on me. As it's Mark not Jen... |
X
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 03:26 PM
LoL....Said I was sorry....Honest mistake. Hell, remember, I patted the wrong girl's butt at Wal Mart. |
Myst
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 03:43 PM
Mark-N-Jen, a $150 million dollar grant to study this would me nice!
Stephen you said Remember senses are electrical pulses that can and do get manipulated.
The electical impulses is exactly what I am talking about here. Thought is energy, electrical impulses which travel around our brains, but do those impules stay strictly within the brain, or can they travel outside of the body.
I know this sounds out there, welcome to one of the weird musings that goes on in my head. It is a strange place to be sometimes. :lol: |
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 05:14 PM
A little late, but neither is "irregardless" in the dictionary, Mark-N-Jen. I was trying to be ironic! Although I should note, "alot" and "irregardless" are still words, just words that aren't 'recognized' by intellectial monopolies like Oxford.
In conclusion, I've lost my point, and am just babbling for attention.
LOOK WHAT I CAN DO! LOOK AT ME! |
Myst
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 | 05:21 PM
Citizen stop that!!! |
X
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 | 08:05 AM
Well Myst, I do believe energy can travel outside the body. Our brains have a frequency (at least I think so) so if it does leave the body, it does so in that manner. Energy comes in all forms, it still facinates me about sound, This one source of energy in the form of a vibration that our minds can easily understand. If we can make that form of energy travel, certainly we can do it other ways as well. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 | 09:25 AM
Citizen,
I know where you're coming from as it's my point exactly. Just making conversation w/ ya. (is that in there?) And mostly just babbling, I use those words alot myself, and have managed to kill quite alot of dead-air time at work discussing what the word weather means to each of us, whether we really care alot about it or not is irregardless! Peace... |
Yaanu
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 | 08:34 PM
So does that mean that our so-called 'sixth' sense is like Spiderman's spider sense? Cause he can tell when junk is about to happen, y'know?
~Yaanu~ |
Myst
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 | 10:22 PM
Hey Mark,
I have a question for you. Does the name Winged Cat ring a bell? |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 08:45 AM
Hey guys,
Just because we've been discussing the tsunami I thought I'd post this link. It has some really cool, although tragic circumstances surround them, photos of the last moments before the waves struck.
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/4226814/detail.html
You can see in these photos how the tide dramatically receded just prior to the strike. Also, you can tell from some distance that a massive wave is coming back in to replace all the recently evacuated water. To make sure and not rile Citizen we'll call these "indications" surf conditions. But there were definately indications.
Winged Cats Myst. If you mean Feline Cutaneous Asthenia, then I've read on this briefly. The wife is a big feline fan. Why do you ask? Because of the whole continuing evolution thing? I'll admit that when I first read about this my off-the-cuff thought was... "they're seeing Owls and mistaking them for cats." (Because of similar head shapes and behaviours as far as stalking goes) But Jen was reading into it some and I've seen some really strange pics that soon changed my assumption. Of course I know LITTLE about computers and even less about telling whether or not photos are fake or doctored. Now that you mention it I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen this on here before. Has it been? Anyway, here's a recent article that we seen on it, picture sucked though.
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/07/29/devilcat.shtml
And what I read about this when Jen first asked me about it.
http://www.catskittysgatos2.homestead.com/winged.html |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 08:55 AM
Also Myst,
Since you asked me about it I'm sure you've probably already seen these but, here is the place I found to be the most interesting read on this subject.
http://www.messybeast.com/winged-cats.htm
I like how they address all the possibilities here. Also, even if cats were to evolve wings... their bodies would still require quite a bit of upgrading before being able to achieve flight. Hollow bones, air pockets, etc. to lighten the load it would seem. If that's the intention of this "evolution." One of these "examples" of this deformity should be checked for other possible mutations as well. Also, I noticed how a high number of these cases seem to occur in England... what that means I don't know. ????? |
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 03:44 PM
surf:
Noun
The waves of the sea as they break upon a shore or reef.
Conditon:
Noun
1. A mode or state of being
Ok, that works!
And about the "flying cats" I've heard that cat's have disconnected shoulder blades. If some deformity made these blades larger, and sticking up, they might look like wings. I'm a little rusty on my cat anatomy, though. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 03:58 PM
Citizen,
You being the dictionary hound that you are should know that "winged" does not necessarily denote "flying" which in this case doesn't. There are all kinds of theories about it though... the third link mentioned most of the differing views, I think. Anyway... we need to chip in and get you something else to read. Were you an English major by chance?
M |
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 04:01 PM
PS - The number of "incoming" tsunami pics have been reduced since I first posted that link. Started out at 15 and then a few minutes ago I was showing a co-worker and it was down to 9??? Starting to wonder what that's all about... |
Myst
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 04:06 PM
Thanks for the links, Mark. I love the urban legends about the so called winged cats. I'm looking forward to reading the pages!
I asked because I was hoping a blog I have been reading belonged to you. |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 04:19 PM
Myst,
Nope not mine, but would be interested in checking it out. Jen probably more than me but it sounds interesting. If you don't mind sharing.
M |
Myst
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 | 04:45 PM
It is a personal blog I have been following along because an issue in his life hits home.
Here is the link:
http://cin-ramble.blogspot.com/ |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 | 12:53 PM
Something to think about...
http://www.theindychannel.com/family/4251011/detail.html |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 | 12:54 PM
Like I said Myst... we should have applied for that grant. Some nitwit reading on here has stolen our idea... |
Myst
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 | 08:53 PM
Easy come, easy go I guess. |
Matt Marriott
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 | 07:13 AM
Plate tectonics is a hoax
<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1295748/posts">null</a> |
Mark-N-Isa
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 | 03:21 PM
So what causes Earthquakes then? Or are they all frauds too? |
kylekurtz
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 | 11:28 PM
why do you want to disprove it so much.
mabye there is some fact to the whole "sixth sense" theory.
it doesnt mean your psychic, its just a bit more intuition. |
Maegan
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 | 05:56 AM
I believe Matt Mariott is SPAM. Since you've replied to him though, I won't get rid of his post.
I've seen other posts that are just a short sentence & then then free republic website... |
Taydisa
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 | 09:34 AM
how do u know if you have a "6th sence"?
because i have seen movement like my dead grandpa walk by me so yeah whatever. got to go ❓ |
David B.
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Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 | 09:07 AM
Taydisa wrote:
"how do u know if you have a "6th sence"?
because i have seen movement like my dead grandpa walk by me so yeah whatever. got to go"
That's called 'sight'. It's one of the classic five senses. |
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 | 04:43 AM
Hi,
I am the one who have sixth sense. I have been observing this fro the past 1yr, what ever happens tomorrow or after one week time or after 1 month time that I will know today itself. Not all the things but important things in the life. I am not sure whether this is the spiritual power or human being natural power but its true.I had sensed more than 20 incidents which became true after a day or 1 week or month time.
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taydisa
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 | 12:40 PM
uhhh...
yeahhh.
i wrote that one response like 6months ago...ithink. wait let me check.ok it was over 6 months...
uhhgg. yeah i was dumb then and yeah i know that is only one of the 5 sences....
well yeah how do u know tho????
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uhhh yeah g2g b4 my teacher sees me....
~Taydisa~ |
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 | 02:01 PM
Humans have at least six perceptual senses,without describing intuition as one. Proprioception,or kinaesthetic sense,by which one feels how ones body is oriented and moving in space is fundamental and necessary for survival,certainly all vertabrates have such a sense. Then of course there's a sense of irony,but,like the senses of humor or outrage not all humans seem to have it. These would seem to be requisite for surviving civilization.Hard to tell if we will |
M.Lakshmipathi
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 | 03:57 AM
Hi,
The only the way to get Sixth sense is to keep the mind in thought less stage, then the soul is coming to exist, that knows any thing and everything that can do anything and everything. You can feel this sixth sense around 4AM in the morning.
Rgds,
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 | 09:43 AM
Citizen Premier-
Since you are so into the dictionary, maybe you should look up the word irregardless that you used in your posting. It is not a word, but is actually a mistake people make by combining words. What I believe you meant is regardless. Just an FYI. |
M.Lakshmipathi
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Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 | 08:15 AM
:-/ People don't believe this but its true. There are so many Gurus here in Inida. People who dedicated their life for preaching the god words. If your mind is open and help others don't blame others then you can see the God. He is one. If you pray him as Christ you can see Christ, if you pray him as baba you can see him as Baba. He watches you each and every second of your life. |
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