Charybdis
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 03:48 PM
I haven't seen the aired presentation so I can't comment on it, but the ABC website doesn't seem to be hyping it as a real haunting. It specifically states that this a work of fiction from Steven King.
The Beaumont University website seems a bit more hoaxy but still seems to be more about entertainment (admittedly rather sparse on the content side) and less about trying to make you believe that all this is real.
If someone saw just the university website then, yeah, the might think it a bit odd but not too terribly convincing. It looks more like an entertainment or spoof site that's still under construction than the site of a real university (seems to be woefully understaffed [did I just really use the word woefully?]). |
Brandie
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 | 05:46 PM
I saw the "documentary." The whole thing is based on the fact that Rose Red is a real mansion, and that they actually found the diary of the lady this mansion was built for, Ellen Rimbauer. This diary gives an inside view of the mansion and supports the supernatural claims. This psycholgist has even published this diary.
You know that what happens inside Rose Red is a fictional story that has been created by Steven King, but the documentary they give you, "the history behind Rose Red" is completely false. In the movie itself, it has all this history incorporated into it, and all of the characters names (the phsychology professor, the actual guy who owns the non-existant mansion, etc...)
It's really hard to explain to someone who didn't see the documentary ABC put on the air. If they didn't put that on the air, claiming it to be truth, I could give a crap less, because I like Steven King and I liked the movie. You can find the ABC documentary on the DVD version of Rose Red, I watched it last night after I watched the movie. That's what got me interested in finding out more about the mansion. Instead I found all this out.
Since you never saw the documentary, it's really hard to explain. The last site, the HistoryLink one, explains the most about whole ordeal. The fake site ABC set up linked to them without their knowledge, and when they began recieving thousands of hits and inquiries, they did research of their own to set the record straight.
ABC has this link right on their front page to the university website that you know isn't really a university:
Joyce Reardon's bio, course listing and Rose Red research are available at Beaumont University's official website. |
Ozymandias
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 | 07:40 PM
They did the same thing with Kingdom Hospital. Also, the documentary is on the DVD.
And Rose Red was a miniseries, not a TV movie. |
Tamati
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 | 04:03 AM
Gees,
Rose Red - I saw this movie and totally believed it was based on a true historical account. Im dissapointed to learn it was not. Lying cunts !! No wonder you guys lost Vietnam and Iraqi. Anyway Stephen King has as much imagination as a friggin blowfly - he looks scarier than the monsters he conjures up (ugly bastard that he is), and his endings are always predictable, ala BORING. Thats what happens when ya have too much money - creativity suffers. Ohhh and Stephen if your reading this - GO FUCK YASELF UGLY AMERICAN ASSHOLE.
God Bless
Bye
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Charybdis
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 | 12:40 PM
Don't hold back sweetie. If you have something to say just say it. I don't have time to read between the lines to figure out what you're really trying to get across. |
Charybdis
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 | 12:41 PM
Oh, and I love the God Bless part. Really lightens my heart. |
Tamati
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Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 | 02:54 AM
ok apologies if I offended SK fans. Its just that Im sick of quality horror being traded off for the greed of money - a typical american attitude I must admit
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erica
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 | 08:13 PM
i saw it and all my friends were scared out of there minds and were all hudled togewther i sat as close as i could and was in a trance i couldnt take mty eyes of the screen i beleive in it and i hope one day i can visit the mansion
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Brandie
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 | 09:29 AM
There is no mansion -- it was all a hoax created by ABC! |
josh
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 | 12:38 PM
you people are nuts to beleive a house can grow and change shape. you people who think that this mini series is true are nuts. people don't just disappear it cannot be don't. |
Brandie
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Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 | 07:05 PM
I am definitely NOT nuts, okay -- I didn't say I believed all the stuff they say happened, but they did (and still do) insist on there being an actual mansion to base the story on. The fact that the mansion itself does not even exist is what perturbs me. |
amanda
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 | 03:16 PM
I have not seen the televised version but, I did enjoy the book "Diary of Ellen Rimbaur" and her story of "Rose Red". |
jessica
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 | 01:52 AM
the movie was good but i had to find out for myself if rose red did exist but to my finding the site of the so called college is a fake and they film it at a castle in washington state but steven king made every person believe the movie was base on some truth but its not and i do believe whom ever think its real is so lost in lala land they don't know reality from false truths. the paranormal does exist but stuff about rose red is in fact false. just had to add my thoughts here sorry for wasting everyones time good day |
jessica
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 | 01:58 AM
also go look at thornewood castle in washington state and look hard at the castle and tell me what does it look like to find the website to go google.com and type in thornewood castle |
Brandie
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 | 12:53 PM
Yes, it was thornewood castle that they used for a lot of the outside taping of Rose Red. And to Amanda, the "Diary fo Ellen Rimbaur" is a complete fabrication, since Ellen Rimbaur never existed at all. |
Rex D.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 | 07:04 PM
Seattle City Hall has no record of one Ellen Rimbauer as a Seattle resident at any time in the past. |
Rex D.
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 | 07:06 PM
She was a completely fictional character |
chase
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 | 08:56 PM
Also if u look at the bottom of the university page there is the hyperion copyright mark. The book company that published the diary of ellen rimbauer....coincidence??? no |
~*sShimmeRr*~
in Adelaide, Australia
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 | 07:57 AM
Rose Red was totally fictional. If you hire out the DVD version of the movie, it'll tell you itself in the Special Features. |
Rod
in the land of smarties.
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 | 09:21 AM
What University, anywhere on the planet (or the net for that matter) has an incomplete website that only lists paranormal classes, has the only working links all the same (and basically all about a brand new movie), AND ARE ALSO named after a Stephen King character?
Anybody read The Dark Half?
Protagonist: Thadeus Beaumont, Author
This coupled with...
Beaumontuniversity.net is registered to Walt Disney Hyperion Books. If it was real would it not have a .edu extension, like all other educational institutions? (I think only registered educational institutions can get an .edu extension, the same as Joe Blow not being able to get a .gov extension. This may have changed, I'm not too up to date on net developements anymore, and I'm sure there are ways around it somehow.)
Beaumontuniversity.com is an identical copy of the site. It is registered to Vertical Axis, Inc. A google for "vertical axis, inc" brings up nothing but a long list of copyright infringements against an identically named business in Hong Kong. And this company runs the University, huh?
Sometimes I wonder if people really want to be fooled, it's SO easy to get this info. Anytime you go to a site and wonder about it, checking the website registration could give you a few clues... if it's real, generally people like Harry Balls and Richard Stroker do not register it. :coolhmm: |
DFStuckey
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 | 09:41 PM
Rose Red just finished here in NZ and Kingdom Hospital has started. Both are reasonable, but the thing about Rose Red is that it has a New Zealand connection . . . Actress Melanie Lynskey.
Who coincidentally plays a character on "two and a half men" called Rose. Who seems to haunt Charlie Sheen. |
Brad
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 12:28 PM
Yes, truly disappointed in Mr.King, feeling the need to pull the wool over our eyes to boost ratings. Is he losing his edge? And proud of all the rest of you Americans for ignoring the anti-american bait quoted on this site. |
Rod
in the land of smarties.
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:02 PM
Stephen King has not had creative control over any of his movies since "Maximum Overdrive". In the interview I read (I'm pretty sure it was in an ancient Playboy mag) when he discussed this, he said he preferred it that way, as he was meant to write books, not produce movies.
He freely admitted that MO would have been a better movie without his "help", so he would stay away from movies in the future, and lets the "pros" do it. (Which is how he ended up with "The Lawnmower Man".) |
X
in McKinney, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 | 02:17 PM
I read the same thing. I think He likes hearing that people prefer to read his books then to watch the movies. |
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 | 08:34 PM
Actually for all those people who dont believe the mansion is real.......Well it is and if u dont believe us go get off ur fat lazy bullheaded asses and research it . And for Tamati thanks u talk shit on Americans but u are a prime example of what trash comes from ur country u jealous bitch...Sorry if I offended neone else but my language.
OH and even tamiti God Bless |
Charybdis
in Hell
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 | 07:28 AM
Tamati:
People with the name Tamati should be granted the same consideration as a 15 year old behind the counter at Starbucks giving political
advice. Shut up and pour!
Charybdis
See above. - WTF!!!
Is someone with the user name "WTF!!!" more mature than the rest of us? Is one exclamation mark not enough for you?
And the term is "get go". "Git go" is one of those dialect things that seems to perturb you so.
😊 |
Maegan
in Tampa, FL - USA
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 | 09:48 AM
Wow, I didn't realize it was okay to post in a hoax forum about how bad everyone's use of grammar is.
First off, calm down. Second, do you have any comments about the initial thread post? Third, if no, GET OVER YOURSELF. |
Crimsynn
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 | 12:33 PM
I always thought Rose Red Exist. That Ellen Rimbauer did as well as her Diary. One day, I wake upa morning and I went on Google to search more about it and Unfortunatlly, people were saying that it was NOT REAL and I found this:
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A few years ago Steven Spielberg asked Stephen King to write a scary, haunted house story he could film. As you guessed, King decided to start with the real story of the Winchester Mansion and elaborate on it. The production company went to great lengths to give the film a "true story" feeling by also publishing a companion book on the subject - "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer: My Life at Rose Red" by Joyce Reardon (It was actually written by King. Reardon is a character in the film) - and by creating a fake website for "Beaumont University" the college were the investigators checking out the house supposedly came from.
The Winchester House is a real place located in San Jose, California. It was owned by the rich widow of the man that invented the famed Winchester rifle, Sarah L. Winchester. She feared the spirits of those that had been killed by her husband's guns during the Civil War would haunt her. A psychic told her to appease the spirits she should continually build and add to her mansion and that's just what she did for 38 years from 1884 to 1922. The result is a big, rambling structure with lots of strange features including doors that open out into thin air and stairs the go no place but straight up into the ceiling.
All work stopped when Sarah died in 1922, but the mansion still exists and visitors can take a tour of the premises to see some of the 160 strange rooms and odd features that she had built. Supposedly the mansion is haunted.
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What can I say. There is still a little voice inside me that wants to believe that there is a Rose Red and I know that I am not the only one, that those who know that it was based on a NON True story still wants it to be true.
"The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer", My Life at Rose Red can always be:
"The Diary of Sarah Winchester", My life at Winchester House.
Stephen King says that he got the idea from the Winchester ( Winchester rifles .....the wife thought if she continued to build the house she would never die).
There are numerous accounts of paranormal activity occurring in the house. These include ghosts, organ music playing, book pages turning and many others.
Stephen King did a great Job. He gave a life to Rose Red, a life to Ellen Rimbauer, a life to something that did not exist. But, the best work he did is of course, Disappointing his readers.
*Sighs*
One Rose to Rose Red @-)--
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Crimsynn
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 | 12:44 PM
(Well) |
Harry Balls
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 | 04:51 PM
I didn't say anything, what are you bringing me into this for? I'm not registering any websites. |
Anna
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 | 10:46 AM
Anyway, Some friends and I are making a Rose Red RPG (Roleplaying game) A play by post. We will be starting from year 1950 after Ellen Rimbauer vanished. The history of Rose Red will be unchanged but new characters will be added.
The story is to be continued...
For more informations or if you are interested to be part of Rose Red, email us at:
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) |
dan Riccatelli
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 | 12:03 PM
It the story of rosered true or not this is all I want to know? Is it all a lie? A story of fiction? |
Bec
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 | 06:38 AM
I'm beginning to wonder if there's ever been a forum without a bitch fight at some point...can't people just discuss a subject without having to resort to fighting?
As to the whole Rose Red story, I've just finished reading the diary of Ellen Rimbauer and that diary really did have me...until I went looking for more information on the internet and found out it was a hoax :( Oh well...I hope to visit the Winchester Castle one day... |
Angel
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 | 08:31 PM
hey everyone. i just read what you all wrote and i think that those guys shouldnt say its based on a true story if it isnt |
Chris
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 | 07:58 PM
Never mind that the picture of John Rimbauer on the genealogy page is actually Tsar Nicholas II of Russia. |
Kiki
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 | 04:39 PM
I do believe the whole point of making everyone think it was real, was this. This right here. People to talk and converse about the movie prompting others to go and see for themselves. Therefore more people surry on down to buy or rent the DVD. More money for the money hungry in Hollywierd.
The more people talk, argue, and complain about what is and is not real about the movie, the more others wish to see it.
So you see no jokes, no hoax, no secret plan to seek out just the one simple truth: MONEY
Get enough people interested in something and theres going to be someone that figures out how to cash in on it.
It seems everything in this world today centers on money, don't you think? Scarey how simple and obvious things can be sometimes. |
angel
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 | 01:34 AM
i have a question u all maybe able to help me answer. were there really murders at rose red? Did Ellen Rimbeauor really exsist? |
Kiki
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 | 12:46 PM
Angel>>
There is no Rose Red. Also there is no Ellen R. They where both made up by Stephen King. None of it is real. |
jordin
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 | 02:20 PM
i dont know what u guys r smokin, but it is based on a true story!!! duh!!!! the real house is in Lakewood,Washington!!!!! |
barbara
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 | 04:07 PM
I myself think that it is always good to keep an open mind about all things also adding Mr King has always done that for people. he makes you question things even if you wont admit it to your self he's great and so is all of his work !!!! |
Chip
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 | 02:17 PM
If he says yes to sharing this, what is Stephen Kings e-mail? |
angie
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 | 07:30 PM
you kids are rediculous! If you knew anything about history or bothered to look for yourselves you would know your not lokking for a mansion called rose red ~ it's the winchester mansion. Here I'll make your life easier, use this.
http://www.hauntedhamilton.com/gotw_winchester.html |
Kayla
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 | 10:06 PM
Rose Red, iam really into scary movies and when i saw rose red it was like a movie i never saw before.... i got so into rose red the biagrophy i looked on ebay,public library,Hastings everywhere,where they sell book!!!! but all the places said the "diary of Ellen Rimbauer" was oyt of print!!!!! so i drove all the way to seeatle Washington which took me at least 3 hours to get there but i saw rose red in person and got this sudden chile so i left but took so many pictures... and i went to vist the book stores and bought myself a copy of "diary of ellen rimbauer" and let me tell u something ever since i went to visit ROSE RED i keep on hearing voices and seeing a suuden face so heres some advice NEVER EVER GO VISIT ROSE RED IN PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Mel
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Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 | 02:23 PM
Hello?-um Rose Red does NOT exist. Thornwood Castle where some of the interiors and exteriors exists and the story was based on Sarah Winchester (Winchester Mystery house). the story is FICTION!
PS: Please learn how to spell! |
crystal
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 | 03:33 PM
I think its outrageous that you can write a fictional book and pass it off as being true. I didn't believe rose red the movie was true I thought it was based off of true accounts of Ellen Rimbauers diary. Then to find out it was all just a hoax was awful. Are there no morals in journalism any longer? Stephen King should be ashamed of himself. |
