"George" writes: "I would appreciate your opinion about waiora's zeolite
"natural cellular defense" for treating cancer (www.waiora.com). do you think there's something to it or is it just a scam?"
I don't actually see where Waiora claims that their "Natural Cellular Defense" product can be used to treat cancer. In fact, their website states, "These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease." However, what they do claim sounds rather dubious to me:
Waiora’s Natural Cellular Defense has been clinically formulated to help support a healthy immune system, remove heavy metals and toxins, and balance your body’s pH levels.
Natural Cellular Defense is 100% natural and non-toxic and is derived from zeolites. For centuries, the powdered forms of specific zeolites have been used as traditional remedies throughout Asia to promote overall health and well being. The story of these “volcanic rocks” has been passed down from generation-to-generation as more and more people have experienced its life-changing benefits.
Zeolites are natural volcanic minerals with an unique, complex crystalline structure. It’s honeycomb framework of cavities and channels (like cages) works at the cellular level attracting heavy metals and harmful toxins. In fact, because it is one of the few negatively charged minerals in nature, zeolites act as magnets drawing toxins to it, capturing them in its cage and removing them from the body.
According to
Wikipedia, zeolites are often used in filtration systems, such as water purification systems. In aquariums they're sometimes used to absorb ammonia and other nitrogenous compounds. They're also the active ingredient in QuikClot, an emergency coagulant.
So maybe Waiora is right that zeolites will attract toxins inside the body. What I would worry about, however, is that they would also remove good minerals from the body. I'm not a doctor, so I'm in no position to pass judgement on the therapeutic value of zeolites. But I would want to see a lot more evidence before I accepted Waiora's claims.
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A while back, Senator Orrin Hatch pushed through legislation that allows purveyors of "food supplements" to make more grandiose claims than before.
The phrase "clinically formulated to help support a healthy immune system" does NOT mean, as you probably think it does, that the substance in question has been show to aid your immune system. What it means under the law is that it has NOT be shown to actively HARM the human immune system. The exact same notice could be put on a ketchup bottle with the same legal meaning and accuracy.
But is it a good idea to eat zeolite? I think I'd like to see some evidence before I start munching on it (I already have a large container of it for my aquariums-- it's quite cheap, by the way).
I have fed my fish a commercial fish food with an ingredient list that includes "Montmorillonite clay." The manufacturer seems to think that mixing the clay into the food does the fish some good. I don't know about that, but it doesn't seem to hurt them, and it's otherwise a good food.
I'm glad Travis's mom is doing well, but did the zeolite cure her? We need a lot more information before we could even make a guess. If she watched the Mary Tyler Moore show while she was recooperating, would we say that watching MTM cures cancer?
"My mum had cervical cancer and all her doctors involved recommended these. She's now been rid of the cancer for 2 years which is great... If these helped or not who knows, but I belive in them since her doctors did."
Were they medical doctors, or "alternative" practitioners, Travis? Did she receive any other treatment while also taking this stuff?
Yes the doctor that performed the hysterectomy and an expert in cervical cancer suggested that they are good. Again he didnt say they would cure her nor did he tell her to take them, but he mentioned them saying that he belives they have the potential to help.
Regarding several prior comments, it is clearly easy to do "armchair editorializing" until you hear the words spoken to you "You have cancer." In the U.S., one of every two men and one of every three women will hear those words in our lifetime, this according to the NCI. When you do, you would be very wise to check ALL available "alternatives" prior to submitting to surgery, radiation and/or chemotherapy. And, in the case of the latter, routinely administered by "regular doctors," I suggest you begin reading now and asking the hard questions now, before you are diagnosed. If you wait until you are diagnosed, you will be left with the "deer in the headlights" effect and walk right into the headlights! I guarantee, you will not want to ask "Will it cure me?" at that point and it probably wouldn't matter anyway. For certain, you will want to study medical outcomes data, particularly for Stage III and Stage IV cancers including the fact that the U.S. has +/- 560,000 deaths annually that are attributable to cancer. This is (one) serious issue that deserves your serious understanding... now. You will have to conclude that you are best to do whatever you can to avoid the diagnosis completely. And, I believe, you can.
Otherwise and unlike IV chelation therapy, NCD does not remove essential nutrients from the body. Nor does it interact with prescription drugs as both consist of negatively charged molecules whereas heavy metals and other toxins are positively charged and, therefore, attracted to the clinoptilolite/zeolite material and efficiently removed from the body, primarily with urine excretions. None remains in the body after 6-7 hours. More can be learned about this product, along with updates on bonified research progress at 712-432-9409. I will be glad to share other information regarding the above should you wish to contact me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).
That's quite the logical fallacy. One of the key factors in surviving cancer is catching and treating it early. A lack of cheap, quick, effective tests is one the reason various cancers (for example, cervical cancer) are so deadly. Checking all available alternatives, without regard to the logical probability that any given alternative will work, the existence of peer-reviewed studies demonstrating any effect, or even a bona fide scientific explanation as to how a particular alternative supposedly works merely eats up time that could be spent using a method with a track record. A few "alternative" medicines are only effective when they are used to complement and support mainstream medicine, but most "alternatives" come complete with dubios explanations for their effectiveness and exactly zero peer-reviewed studies demonstrating any amount of effectiveness.
Is it possible that, in dealing with the death of your child, you are simply looking for an explanation for why this death occurred? It's easy to say "if only this product had been available, I wouldn't have to deal with this". It's much harder to deal with the fact that the universe operates on random chance and nothing will keep us from death.
http://letstalkdetox.com/index.php?catid=6&blogid=1
Hopefully the info there will help people sort through all the conflicting reports on this product.
Many Blessings,
Shelley Penney
he was well over his old body weight, happy, with only one very slight swelling in his neck. He continues to maintain good health. The only other things we did were give him Rescue Remedy, and more fresh food in his diet. Our vet advised that his lymphoma was caused by a cat scratch from an infected cat. Relatives who were initially sceptical of the NCD are now recommending it to others. I am now going to give some to my daughter's siamese fighting fish. Creatures do not have the prejudices humans do, so are a good guide to the efficacy of these treatments.
http://www.zeohealth.com/LIQUIDZEOLITEresponse.pdf
The Original "Liquid Zeolite" (Waiora) is simply micronized powdered zeolite in suspension. There is no humic or fulvic acid in it. Of course it isn't "liquefied". Harvey Kaufman never "modified the zeolite to a liquid.
Powdered zeolite is (for the most part) too large to pass through the intestines. It is great for intestinal detox of heavy metals however. I haven't seen any studies (urine) that show that powdered zeolite is excreted that way. The tests on NCD show 80% excretion in the urine (it must pass into the system to get there). Does your powdered zeolite have these tests done?
Many Blessings,
Shelley Penney
done by those who work at Waiora, which was
a one time test on only 11 men:
http://www.liquidzeolite.org/research/liquidzeolite.html
and
http://www.dovepress.com/clinical-evidence-supporting-the-use-of-an-activated-clinoptilolite-su-peer-reviewed-article-NDS
Everything else I have read on zeolite and scientific studies were done on its natural form as a powder.
I think more research needs to be done before making any claims about liquid zeolite, or at
least NCD.
You may also want to review this article
on Rik Deitsch, Chief Scientific advisor for Waiora, CEO of Nutra Pharma Corp, and President of Wellness Industries:
http://timothysykes.com/blog/2009/10/01/the-skeletons-in-nphcs-closet-zeolite-detox-environmental-toxins-mlms-embezzlement-ftc-rebukes/