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UFO Coin
image A mysterious coin, dating from 1680, has experts puzzled. The coin in question appears to show a UFO. Or, if not a UFO, then a 'symbolic representation of the Biblical Ezekiel's wheel". One or the other "but little else" (according to Kenneth Bressett, former president of the American Numismatic Association). It really does look an awful lot like a modern representation of a UFO, but of course it's just present-day bias to think that because it looks like a UFO to us, that's what the coin maker intended it to be. However, I'm sure that many are going to seize on this as evidence of the existence of seventeenth century UFOs.
Extraterrestrial Life
Posted by The Curator on Sat Jan 29, 2005


It also looks a lot like a flower, a mushroom, or an umbrella.
And since the middle part of the design appears to have been rubbed off, it's pretty hard to read what the original was supposed to represent.
Posted by Big Gary C  in  Dallas, Texas  on  Sat Jan 29, 2005  at  05:21 PM
I agree that it does look like a flower, perhaps sprouting from the plant on the top. But what plant makes flowers when it had fruit?
It could just be bad art.
Posted by Citizen Premier  in  spite of public outcry  on  Sat Jan 29, 2005  at  05:25 PM
This looks like the view from under a tree that has a blooming, ornate flower (not a UFO), which would make the most sense given the inscription. It's taken the Numismatic "expert" 50 years to figure that out (or refuse to see it?)

If it was a UFO, perhaps the fact that it went to France explains why the aliens have chosen never to return to earth...
Posted by Josh  in  Ca.  on  Sat Jan 29, 2005  at  05:28 PM
It's a placenta.
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Sat Jan 29, 2005  at  05:51 PM
The reverse looks like a tree getting rained on. If so, maybe the obverse is a raincloud just before the rain starts.
Posted by Christopher Cole  in  Tucson, AZ  on  Sat Jan 29, 2005  at  07:00 PM
It looks to me like the UFO is trying to impregnate the earth.
Posted by sbnature  on  Sat Jan 29, 2005  at  07:08 PM
If the coin is rotated 180degrees, so that the object in question is at the bottom, the thing opposite look like clouds, which would make sense, that nothing is growing, & you flip it & something is growing. Also, it appears that the object is resting in some cottage cheese. Maybe it was a 1600s marketing ploy.
Posted by Maegan  in  Tampa, FL - USA  on  Sun Jan 30, 2005  at  08:22 AM
The article translates the latin OPPORTVNVS ADEST as "It is here at an opportune time." I don't agree with this translation at all. I'd translate it as "Opportunity unfolds" or "The very near future blossoms." This lends credence to Josh's blossom hanging from a tree theory. I, however, would not hesitate to return to France at any time. I'm sure that extraterrestrials would much rather go there than to North America.

It is, Hairy? LET'S EAT!
Posted by BugbearSloth  in  earth, 3rd planet, sol system  on  Sun Jan 30, 2005  at  01:49 PM
It looks like a lotus flower.
Posted by Oscar  on  Mon Jan 31, 2005  at  10:58 AM
Those of you who understand Italian will find an explanation for the coin on http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_7.htm.

Regards.
Posted by Enrique  on  Mon Jan 31, 2005  at  11:57 AM
Um. Has anyone else noticed that this seems to be a male UFO? Obviously this coin was produced by a disgruntled Disney employee.
Posted by Charybdis  in  Hell  on  Mon Jan 31, 2005  at  02:03 PM
I have just one question. What is the translation for this particular side of the coin?
Posted by Cassie  in  Jersey, baby...can you dig it...I knew you could..  on  Mon Jan 31, 2005  at  11:31 PM
Okay, Babelfish gave a really mangled translation of that Italian page in question...if I'm understanding it correctly there's a legend in Ovid that says Numa Pompilio asked (Giove, which I'm assuming is Jupiter?) how to defend against lightning? "Giove" asks for a human sacrifice but Numa tricks him with word plays because he doesn't want to kill someone; then because of his wit he (and Rome) get rewarded with a shield that falls from the sky. On that page there's another pic of a coin with a shield that's blocking lightning that's coming from the sky.
Posted by Ponygirl  on  Tue Feb 01, 2005  at  02:28 AM
According to what i have read about the coin, the designer of the coin was trying to show what the prophet Ezekiel saw in the sky.
The bible is full of images in the clouds "chariots of fire", the israelites followed a cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night, to name a few.
What amazes me is that millions of people worship a God they can never touch, see, or feel, in a scientific way, yet the idea that a prophet or person may have seen a UFO receives laughter and suspicion.
Posted by greg coe  in  panama city beach  on  Thu Feb 09, 2006  at  10:22 PM
I agree with this last post.. why is it that people can believe in a god which man fabricated but these same people cant believe that humans have had UFO's since the beginning of time? What a joke and what a short fall in any credibility these people wish to have. I dont even have to use my imagination to see something extra-ordinary hanging in the sky, people attempted to signify what they saw with images such as this. I do however have to use my imagination to see a flower, maybe my botany/greenhouse science was a waste of time... Signed landscape contractor, later
Posted by DB  on  Fri Dec 01, 2006  at  07:22 PM
By the way, I'd like to note: The author's statement... "However, I'm sure that many are going to seize on this as evidence of the existence of seventeenth century UFOs"
Well.. I've known about this coin for sometime, so has the UFO community, your statement is late and I believe you already knew of this being used as evidence, you are late not them... Of course they would use it as evidence lol, its very old and its an unidentified flying object!
What will you say when evidence is presented? Your foot will hopefully fit your mouth.....
Posted by DB  on  Fri Dec 01, 2006  at  10:38 PM
Ezekiel's wheels, indeed, look like the saucer on the old coin. Do a web search for SOLVING THE RIDDLE OF EZEKIEL'S WHEELS, where you will find my article by that title. You will also find a detalied picture of their physical appearance.

Read what the ancients, such as those who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, have to say about what Ezekiel saw in his vision.It was the constant opinion of early antiquity that Ezekiel saw "the chariots of the cherubim", which are "the chariots of God."

Shalom,
Frank Carlisle
Posted by Frank Carlisle  in  USA  on  Fri Dec 15, 2006  at  02:45 PM
i need one fast
Posted by garyn  in  17045 nw 9th ct 33169 miami fl  on  Tue Oct 14, 2008  at  04:05 PM
it is a depiction of a SEARL disc. Yet that wasn't invented until the 1940's. I suppose the coincidence is just too great... but the details on the underside is an EXACT match. I wonder if the rumors of the time travel ability of the vortex effect of this disc has some validity...
Posted by gao bo hong  on  Tue Nov 24, 2009  at  10:33 AM
i also think that the fact that there are many very old paintings and writings about objects or lights in the sky may show us that people in the past maybe saw things we call "ufo", and i can imagine that people were fascinated or even afraid of what they saw, maybe they called them "gods", and maybe the object on this coin also is one of those strange objects. if it is one of those, i would interpret its position as flying into the sky, away from the viewer, because of how the ground is shown. a landing would (maybe) show the object parallel to the ground. greetings david
Posted by david  in  germany  on  Thu Mar 18, 2010  at  11:38 AM
ok, i searched for answers, and now i know that this is not a ufo or something strange, this is a shield.
it has got a historical meaning. this ufo-theorie is just a matter of not knowing historical facts..........
http://www.coinpeople.com/index.php?showtopic=19212
A good explanation is at "Post#17".
Damn and i thought we are not alone grin
Posted by david  in  germany  on  Thu Mar 18, 2010  at  12:47 PM
but...maybe some day a coin will be found from 1600 showing E.T. or alf ... bye
Posted by david  in  germany  on  Thu Mar 18, 2010  at  12:59 PM
Where does it say 1680??? I don't see the year on the first coin....
Posted by sebastian  in  Netherlands  on  Sun Mar 06, 2011  at  06:28 PM
But WHAT WAS the "Biblical Ezekiel's wheel"?

Maybe... an UFO? wink
Posted by weirdo  in  Berlin  on  Fri Jun 24, 2011  at  08:30 AM
From 1608-1656 (i.e. approximately 30-78 years) before Bernard Fontenelle wrote his most famous Popular Science treatise (i.e. Conversations on the Plurality of Worlds) there were earlier sightings of UFO's and it's occupants sketched in battle on numerous art paintings and/or hovering over the countryside e.t.c.

Black Bantu humanoid aliens from Venus and/or Mercury were flying around all over France during the 16th century alongside other species of extraterrestrials which were described by French artisans. In particular the space ship that these black Bantu humanoid type aliens arrived in was engraved on a French coin (i.e. 16th Century French UFO Commemorative Medal) minted in the same French nation to commemorate this event:

"After decades of seeking possible answers about a mysterious UFO like design on a 17th century French copper coin a prominent Numismatic expert says it remains just that (i.e. an unidentified flying object). It was made in the 1680s France and the design on one side certainly looks like it could be a flying saucer in the clouds over the countryside". [NICAP. "Centuries Old UFO Coin Remains Mystery". National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomenon, 2005]
Posted by Terrence  in  Miami, FL  on  Wed Mar 07, 2012  at  12:48 PM
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