Do You Believe in Santa Claus?

image A British psychiatrist, Lynda Breen, has concluded that belief in Santa Claus is actually good for the moral development of children. Apparently believing in the existence of a jolly red-suited man who "'knows if you've been bad or good' helps teach children the difference between right and wrong." As much as my first inclination is to make a sarcastic remark about this, I think I'm going to hold back since there's a whole slew of fantastic beings whose existence I find myself very reluctant to deny, especially when kids are around: jackalopes, Nessie, Roswell aliens, etc. Of course, none of these creatures offer any kind of moral example, so Dr. Breen would probably say that belief in them is unhealthy.

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Posted on Thu Dec 02, 2004



Comments

It doesn't help them learn the difference between right and wrong. It tells them that if they're good. they'll receive gifts. In the real world, you don't get gifts for being good.
Posted by John  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  04:50 PM
Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel "Hogfather" is a must read for holding up a mirror to Christmas activities.

For example, the mall manager explaining to the cops why he wants them to remove the fake store Santa Claus.
Posted by Andy  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  06:16 PM
RE Terry Pratchett's "Hogfather" - don't forget about the presents - people should get what the deserve, not what they want! That's a good way of instilling good behavour in kids - Bribery!
Posted by Smerk  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  07:31 PM
So that's total bull. If she was any sort of psychiatrist, she'd have heard of a famous psychologist named Montessorri. She had a nice little theory about fantasy play. Most 3, 4, 5 year olds can make good self judgements and have confidence in their own abilities to interpret their world as they learn about it. Throw Santa and other imaginaries in there and you mess up any and all confidence they have in reality as fixed and understandable. They'll have to learn a whole new reality when they get old enough and they'll learn not to trust your word as reference. Plus the whole good and bad thing just makes them dependent on external forces for approval which makes for the homecoming queens and yuppies of the future. How much of your kid's intrinsic abilities are you willing to sacrafice for them to "be good for Santa" ?
Posted by Heidi  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  07:35 PM
Does anyone see the connection btw Santa Claus and God??? Santa can see everything you do, and rewards you if you're good - which is ultimately up to him. God can see everything you do, and "rewards" you if you're good - which is ultimately up to him? I bet it's a conspiracy.
Posted by Cathy  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  09:15 PM
yes jebus and santa are much alike. i want a little kid to ask his 'rents "santa isnt real? what about the easter bunny? WHAT? what about jebus? ive been being good and going to church for nothing!!!?!?"

that would make my day...

ultimately, the santa jesus analogy proves that you can train your little child to believe anything. to be honest, it seems pretty messed up to program religion into your child when theyre at such an impressionable age.
/end rant
Posted by sam  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  09:43 PM
Are we ALL so jaded? How about - Relax, enjoy the holiday festivities, and try to support our troops overseas, who can't be with their families for Xmas, etc. Happy New Year, Alex, and fellow fans of the Museum of Hoaxes!!
Posted by stork  on  Thu Dec 02, 2004  at  10:05 PM
I think belief in Santa Claus is very healthy for children, because eventually they always figure out it's a lie. This teaches them several important life lessons in a very visceral way:

1. Don't trust adults. Even the ones that love you very much will lie to you to get what they want out of you.

2. You should always question what authority figures tell you is the truth. They might be lying just to manipulate you.

3. When you hear stories of mystical beings who watch you from the sky and punish or reward your behavior, distrust them. They could prove to be just as false as that Santa Claus thing.

Santa Claus has led to the enlightenment of more atheists, agnostics, and other free-thinking, mature, responsible adult minds than you might realize. The lesson isn't 'be good', it's 'question bullshit, see how easily we fooled you by taking advantage of your greed?'. Once a kid realizes the Santa conspiracy, if he's even a little smart, he'll never trust the Man again.

The fact that this very reason-based and secular lesson is smuggled in beneath a veneer of religious holiday spirit is irony almost too rich to bear.

Do your part: do the Santa thing for your kids. The inevitable turning point in their credulity will do them a world of good later. Better they are disappointed ten-year-olds than bitter old men and women on their deathbeds who only realize they've been had by the Man after a lifetime of church-going, flag-waving, and voting for Republicans, right?
Posted by Barghest  on  Fri Dec 03, 2004  at  05:00 AM
gush, you are so lonely..
Posted by Loxx  on  Fri Dec 03, 2004  at  09:32 AM
Sometimes there are good reasons to lie to children, but Santa isn't one of them. Santa can be presented as myth, but presenting him as real and manipulating their environment so they believe he is real, is a complex hoax. When you mulitiply it by the number of children this hoax is perpetrated upon, it's a wonder anyone can advocate a deception of this magnitude without being in politics.
Posted by cvirtue  on  Sat Dec 04, 2004  at  07:38 AM
Very disappointed by the negative reaction to this fine british thinker's opinion.

It is indeed very healthy to cherish a belief in a semi-supernatural entity that knows when you've been good or bad. Just ask the former citizens of East Berlin, who once made the foolhardy decision to *get rid of their secret police*.

East Germany? ***Where is it now?***
Posted by gordon k  on  Sat Dec 04, 2004  at  09:39 PM
Can't you just have fun? I can't remember a time when I deffinately thought Santa was real...but my brother? He was CRUSHED when, one day he looked at my mom and asked, "Mom, I'm old enough to know. Is Santa real?" He tried to hold back his little 9 year old tears...but a few escaped. On the other hand, my mom wasn't sure when I knew the difference...She just recalls that by the time I was 3 I knew exactly what was going on. I still get presents from "Santa" & every now & again I'll get a gift from a reindeer! My brother is over being upset about Santa. He says that when he has kids he'll let them believe in Santa.
Posted by Maegan  on  Sun Dec 05, 2004  at  09:15 AM
Maegan how old are you?

Sam: Who's "Jebus?" Jesus with a B?
Posted by John  on  Sun Dec 05, 2004  at  03:33 PM
Kids grow up believing in FC, then discover he's mum and dad... and thereby learn that the warm figure of love, the gift-giver, the one who cares what they do is none other than those demonized parents, and thereby learns how much mummy and daddy care... ahhh...
Posted by Paul in Prague  on  Mon Dec 06, 2004  at  06:27 AM
I'm 21. And I don't mean that I think Santa actually leaves gifts. But my mom sticks things under the tree, "From: The Elves/Rudolph/Mrs. C", so when I come over on Christmas morning it's supposed to seem magical...since it's not magical (to me) in my own house anymore...cuz I'm the one leaving the presents out.

It's just a cutesy tradition we have. Rudolph tends to give animal-related gifts. Mrs. C gives bath stuff...the Elves always give electronics.
Posted by Maegan  on  Mon Dec 06, 2004  at  01:10 PM
We usually recieve presents from our cats.
Posted by cvirtue  on  Tue Dec 07, 2004  at  07:21 AM
before i start this is a true ! experament i also apolagize to any splling mistakes.me and my husband robert have two children. riley 10 and jamie-lynn 5 . last christmas we told them about santa again. so me and robert decided to do a little experament. on chrismas eve we left down-stairs as normal jamie and riley would leave treats for santa as usual. we didnt buy any presants for them only 1s off us Not santa.
and that night we slept as normal.
we got woken up by jamie jumping on r bed shouting joyfully hes come hes come . my eyes widend really sweetie ?? yes she had the biggest smile on her face . go and wake riley and take her downstairs. as jamie went out the room i wispered to robert did you here that ?? every word h replied. riley and jamie came running in hes really come mum . said riley .me and robert got out of bed and went into the living room . We cudent belive are eyes . he really had come.
i hink the only reasons my parents and roberts told us he wasnt eal was to get bullys away.
if your not sure do this experament like me and robert did . rust e it will work !!!!. chloe thomas liverpool.
Posted by chloe thomas  on  Tue Aug 23, 2005  at  11:13 AM
chloe i did the exact same with my children and santa and it really did work !!!
thank you someone had the guts to put a message on this websie like this . I really respect you .
Mary Lomax
Posted by Mary lomax  on  Tue Aug 23, 2005  at  11:18 AM
santa claus is rel one time he arrived in the sleigh at my neighbors house we saw his sleigh th top of the roof with all the raindeer lined up and rouldoulph so lady forget that hes not real because he is GOT THAT!OK THANX FOR YOU TIME
Posted by brianna  on  Sat Nov 26, 2005  at  04:43 PM
santa is real lady put it in your mind do not forget and im only 7 so you better watch out you better not be naughty lady let me ask you a question who put the gifts under your tree?this is what youll say uh my mom and dad put them under the tree well guess what you lady uncorectto he is real stick it in your mind if you do there will be serios consequences p.s u better believe in him
Posted by alea  on  Sat Nov 26, 2005  at  04:51 PM
Not allowing your child to belive in Santa Claus? Why not let your child dream while they're still young? Oh right, I forgot, allowing your child to belive in Santa Claus will cause them to no longer trust adults, or to question authority figures, eh? I am a 14 year old girl who belived in Santa until I was about 10. And I do not distrust my parents, or question my teachers, wondering, "Hm, Ms. Smith says that Abraham lincoln was a U.S. president, but you know, my parents DID once tell me that Santa existed, so perhaps Ms. Smith is lying to me!" Ha. So, while we're at it, lets tell children that Disneyworld is just a clever combination of well-crafted machines and a man with a large imagination, or that a sunset is simply light reflecting off water vapor in differnt ways (please note my extreme sarcasm)

Jeez. you guys are no fun at all!
Posted by Ellen  on  Sun Dec 04, 2005  at  05:28 PM
hi,
im 10 years old and belive in santa clouse! but people dont think so.my mom tells me there is such thing as santa, my cousin ashley also belives in him.me and her are almost the only 5th and 6th graders that do! i do and i dont want to learn the truth about him. but why dont people belive in him?
Posted by heather kirklin  on  Tue Dec 06, 2005  at  03:03 PM
Santa Claus as an authority figure. One of many many dissapointments in life. Other than trying my patience and otherwise pissing me off in general pretty much most of my life, I can't see what family in general and Christians in particular are good for. Only my father joined alternate "different" religions one right after another till one suited him the best. After trying many weird religions myself I think that worshiping Satan and knowing who the true Lord of this world is, by far, the best thing I have ever done. I also feel much better about myself rather than having the wool pulled over my eyes for the rest of my life! I'm happy with my decision, are you? The Joy of Satan website sets things straight!I don't have to be duped into stupid Christianity like most average boring American citizens!!! So there!!! Have a stupid boring XMAS all you dumb Xtians!!!HA!HA!HA!!!
Posted by SNAP  on  Wed Dec 07, 2005  at  07:59 PM
SANTA IS REAL PEOPLE IM ELEVEN AND I STILL BELIVE IN HIM YOU SOULD TO IT IS NOT STUPID IF YOU BELIVE IN HIM TELL YOUR FRIENDS AND TELL THEM NOT TO THINK IT IS THEIR DAD!

BELIVE PLEASE BELIVE WILL ALL BELIVE TOGETHER

SANTA IS REAL THERE ARE FLYING REINDEER THERE IS A MRS. CLAUS, HOW DO I KNOW THIS ITS BECAUSE I BELIVE IN MY HEART THERE IS A SANTA CLUAS OUT THERE. YOU SHOULD BELIVE IN YOUR HEART TOO LISTEN ON CHRISTMAS EVE NIGHT AND YOU WILL HEAR HIS BELLS!

BELIVE!! PLEASE!!

I LOVE SANTA CLAUS BECAUSE HES REAL.

I HOPE ALL WHO COME ON THIS SITE READ THIS.

SANTA CLAUS I WILL ALL WAYS BELIVE IN YOU!

LOVE KATIE DENISE HANKS
Posted by Katie  on  Wed Dec 21, 2005  at  01:35 PM
I don't care if you believe or not, but stick it in your mind, THERE IS AT LEAST ONE SANTA. I am 10 years old and I am not as stupid as Maegan, 21, or any of you other older people than me and I am SMARTER than you because I KNOW Santa is real!!!
Posted by Regan  on  Sat Dec 24, 2005  at  02:11 PM
i am your santa now.

wah hahahahah HA HA HA!
Posted by elvis  on  Wed Feb 15, 2006  at  09:02 AM
i dont know if i should or shouldn't belive in santa because i recently havn't and i want solid information to know if i should belive in him!
Posted by allie  on  Fri Oct 13, 2006  at  12:43 AM
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Posted by chris  on  Mon Nov 20, 2006  at  06:02 PM
im, 12 years old and i belive in santa some people might say he is a spirt or he is not real and its your perents who put ur present under a christmas tree not beliving in santa is just stupid and i know that santa is real in my heart ...so plz lets all belive in him togheter
Posted by Naomi  on  Mon Jan 01, 2007  at  05:26 AM
Dear Santa Clouse, I have everyone objects of the "Winx club"! I love you!
Posted by Maria Nicolaeva Stoeva  on  Wed Apr 18, 2007  at  01:06 PM
all of you make good points. i liked the one that liked santa to god, that was a nice thinker. now i personally don't believe in santa. i'm not gonna say anyone should or shouldn't. in fact i only found this site because i'm writing an argument over why people shouldn't believe in santa (the other guy got why we should). i'm probably going to hell for writing it too. it's nice to believe in something beyond our own reality from time to time, as long as you don't take it too far. but i have to say that santa wouldn't even exist if a couple of people didn't have to make a living. their names were Clement Clark Moore, a writer, and Thomas Nast, a political cartoonist. both of them used religious beliefs and wrote stories about a man who flew around New York on a horse. this is just a little history lesson, go ahead look it up. also, the ones of you who are so quick to announce your belief in santa and defend him, could you maybe having doubts about your belief? anyway, just giving y'all something to mull over.
Posted by dean  on  Tue Apr 24, 2007  at  09:12 PM
Hello,
I am 13 and I deffantly DON"T beleive in santa. He is just a made up person. It's your parents who put the presents under the tree. Chirstmas isn't about presents its about family. But i don't like my family because my life sucks. But yeah there is no such thing as santa.



Love always,
phoenix
Posted by phoenix  on  Sun Jul 08, 2007  at  09:54 PM
look i'm 11 i belive not coz i am helping young ones but coz hey whats christmass with out santa pepole who don't belive look at the facts i stayed up till 11 o clock and my parents didn't move i even went into there room to check so i'm teeling you dumb twits that don't belive he is real
Posted by adam caulfield  on  Wed Oct 10, 2007  at  12:09 PM
hi me again i agree with niome in gosport and katie in las vegas santa is real phisicaly mentaly and spiritully and elvis in mars go see a therapist look all those who don't belive in my opion have no heart.LADIS AND GENTLE MEN ADAM THE DARK AVENGER CAULFIELD!!!!!!!
Posted by adam caulfield  on  Thu Oct 11, 2007  at  11:35 AM
FORGOT TO SAY I ALSO AGREE WITH REGAN TEXAS ROCK ON DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by ADAM CAULFIELD  on  Thu Oct 11, 2007  at  11:40 AM
Yes I do belive in Santa My brother really saw Santa's boot in 2006.My brothers name is Dakotah Moses.He is 13 years old and belive him that he saw Santa Claus.
Posted by Bailey Moses  on  Tue Oct 30, 2007  at  08:28 PM
Well i dont belive in santa and i dont no whether its twue or not ? so i just want pweatents fwrom my persons goodbye all and merryy cwistmas!!!! YH!!!!!
Posted by Maddzzi  on  Sat Nov 10, 2007  at  11:47 AM
Yes Santa Must be real I have about 3 hours worth of explaining why santa is real i wish i cou;d write it all.
Posted by Anaomious  on  Sun Dec 16, 2007  at  01:45 PM
I don't see what everyone's problem is.

If little kids want to believe in Santa Clause, then let them.
I found out the hard way when I was 10, but I got over it.
I think it does teach kids to be better, because the idea of a naughty list and a nice list makes them behave better. If Santa can see you at all times, then you have to be good to get something besides coal in your stocking.

Now what I would like to know is how the question of Jesus really existing came into this conversation.
I believe in Jesus Christ.
I'm a Lutheran, and I've been going to church since I was small.
Why is it so hard for people to believe there's something bigger than us; That there's someone who cares for us so much that he had his son die on the cross for us!
If I ever have kids, I'm going to raise them as Christians and pray that they choose the right path.
You don't go to church for nothing,
you go to praise the Lord, and learn Jesus' teachings.
Personally (I think) if everyone was a Christian, the world wouldn't be so messed up.

Go to church, people.
Learn stuff,
and please stop being so ignorant.
Posted by Kay  on  Sun Dec 23, 2007  at  01:44 PM
We've got to put and end to this lie about Santa Claus, can anyone really say it's fun to lie to their own child. When telling a lie to your child feels fun then somethings wrong. Who in the world could really say it's healthy to lie. It's not healthy it's sin. The store's are for it, it means sells, people make alot of money off this lie.
Has life become so bad that we need to lie and go on as it is fun just to enjoy the month of December. You should visit with your family, even give them gifts but you don't have to lie in order to do it.
We should help others that need help when we can or feel the urge. We don't need people standing around with a money pot and ringing bell to remind us that the poor are with us, their with us every other day of the year.
We should be thankful and praise God every day that Jesus was born, but He died on the cross for our sins and has rose from the grave. We should put our focus on the fact that He shed His blood for our sins and if we believe and ask to be forgiven we will be saved. Jesus Lives
Posted by Gail  on  Mon Dec 24, 2007  at  09:23 PM
im sorry to tell you but santa isnt real i woulnt lie but i dont want to make you not belive
Posted by lucy  on  Thu Feb 07, 2008  at  01:50 PM
YOU GUYS ARE STUPID SANTA IS NOT REAL I FOUND OUT WHEN I WAS EN IM ELEVN NOW YOUR PARENTS ARE TREATING YOU LIKE BABBYS YOU SHOULD FIGURE OUT WHEN YOUR TEN
Posted by bronte  on  Thu Feb 07, 2008  at  02:23 PM
My sister saw Santa Claus on Christmas eve.
Posted by Shelby  on  Sun Feb 17, 2008  at  09:18 AM
My brother Dakotah Oliver saw Santa Claus's boot on Christmas eve belive me.
Posted by Dell  on  Sun Feb 17, 2008  at  09:21 AM
This is my last piece of writeing i promise until next xmas so i say i'm a born again christian and i can't belive i'm saying this kay in arizona i agree with you every one of these people should goto church and i know i sound like a parent saying this but it's true LERN PEOPLE OR BE DAMMED TO A LIFE OF IGNORANCE. my opinion is taht people can belive wot they want to belive but in the end we're all human we have the right to belife

thanks and peace be with you.
Posted by adam caulfield  on  Sun Mar 23, 2008  at  02:18 PM
i realy dont no the truth about santa, because i would love santa to be real, but how am i supposed to no when parents are telling people they are, and other parents are saying they arn't! only adults no if they are real or not, and untill they tell me the truth i will belive that santa is real and i wont care what any one else says.

xXxaurenxXx
Posted by lauren  on  Sat Sep 06, 2008  at  12:24 PM
:coolsmirk: This is my final comment so i'm saying this as a 12 year old i say let us belive it's our childhood anyway so leave us be
Posted by Adam caulfield  on  Sat Oct 25, 2008  at  06:45 AM
Hi im a 12 year old girl and i belive in santa. My friends all call me a baby for believening him but i dont care! i know my parents put presents underneith the christmas tree , But i know that their is one special gift that Santa puts under the tree. I know it!

I'll always believe in Santa Clause
Posted by Tay  on  Tue Nov 04, 2008  at  12:12 PM
I'm 36 years old and not crazy. If you don't believe in Santa Claus your in for a big suprise. I am a scientist and have ran into the big guy through my journeys around the world. Everyone questions area 51, but you know there's something going on there. Question circumstances and be open minded. To all a good night:)
Posted by James Cunha  on  Mon Dec 08, 2008  at  10:09 PM
I just want to know who santa's connect is? he must have the good shit!
Posted by James Cunha  on  Mon Dec 08, 2008  at  10:17 PM
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