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Magneurol-S6: The ESP Pill
Status: Snake Oil
image The makers of MagneurolS·6 promise that this little pill has some remarkable properties. It will give you "the ability to plug into Earths complex magnetic fields" thereby enhancing your extra-sensory perception and psychic abilities. Of course, never mind that its ingredients are nothing that you can't find in any vitamin supplement costing far less than $49 a bottle. You won't care about such trivial matters once your sixth sense (S·6) has been awakened. One potential danger, however. When taking Magneurol, some users report that "they can 'feel' the radiation, or something like it, emanating from the [cell]phone where they could not do so before." Of course, with the psychic powers the pill bestows, you shouldn't need a cellphone. So that radiation won't be a problem.
Health/Medicine
Posted by The Curator on Tue Nov 22, 2005


oh just what we need, more new age hokum designed to steal from the pockets of gullible souls seeking enlightenment or a nifty parlour trick
Posted by joeodd  on  Wed Nov 23, 2005  at  02:57 AM
Maybe the pills are made from ground-up LifeWave patches.

Seriously, isn't the ability of the human mind to bullshit itself amazing?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Wed Nov 23, 2005  at  03:31 AM
If you wash the pill down with salmon flavoured soda you turn into an Hindu diety.

Use special shaken water and you head will explode.
Posted by Peter  on  Wed Nov 23, 2005  at  04:46 AM
"Seriously, isn't the ability of the human mind to bullshit itself amazing?"

I just popped a MagneurolS
Posted by Richard@Home  in  Sheffield, UK  on  Wed Nov 23, 2005  at  10:30 AM
Sorry, I'm already embedded in the earth's complex magnetic fields.

Now, if you could find a way to NOT be in the magnetic fields, well, that at least would be a new discovery.
Posted by Big Gary in Turkey, Texas  in  Dallas, Texas, USA  on  Thu Nov 24, 2005  at  07:53 PM
Sometimes, you'd think that you wanna know what people are thinking, right? Well, think about this for a second. Do you REALLY REALLY want to know what is going on in other peoples heads? I mean, yea, sometimes that would be cool, but WHAT IF YOU CANT TURN OFF THEIR THOUGHTS? I think that the thought of having to hear myself think while trying to get rid of the thoughts and voices of 12, 000 000 other people is not so nice.

And yes, the ability of the human mind to bullshit itself is amazing. But even more amazing is its ability to make other minds bullshit themselves is even more mindboggling.
Posted by Lady Hedoniste  in  Chilling with 14 other tiny people in your head.  on  Fri Nov 25, 2005  at  11:07 PM
Carmen said:

"And yes, the ability of the human mind to bullshit itself is amazing. But even more amazing is its ability to make other minds bullshit themselves is even more mindboggling."

You got that right, Bud. Knowing Alan Abel and having known Andy Kaufman (and having pulled off a few media hoaxes on my own), I've had the privelege to live on at least the edge of that world for a long time now. It's a wild ride.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Sat Nov 26, 2005  at  02:52 AM
carmen said:

"Do you REALLY REALLY want to know what is going on in other peoples heads? I mean, yea, sometimes that would be cool, but WHAT IF YOU CANT TURN OFF THEIR THOUGHTS? I think that the thought of having to hear myself think while trying to get rid of the thoughts and voices of 12, 000 000 other people is not so nice."

wasnt that an episode of buffy the vampire slayer?
Posted by joeodd  on  Sat Nov 26, 2005  at  03:56 PM
Carmen said:

"Do you REALLY REALLY want to know what is going on in other peoples heads? I mean, yea, sometimes that would be cool, but WHAT IF YOU CANT TURN OFF THEIR THOUGHTS?"

From February '95 to February '98 I had a really stupid job outside the White House. One of the best parts of it was that I got to talk to some really, REALLY crazy people who come there to try to get the president to listen to their grievance(s).

One of them walked around wearing a sandwich board sign that said, "Free Henry Goldgard, Psychic." I asked him what it meant and he explained to me that the government had put a chip inside his head which forced him to hear the thoughts of people near him. It was very unpleasant for him and he wanted the president to order the government to take it out.

So, Carmen, the answer is that it is VERY unpleasant to be forced to hear the thoughts of other people. That comes straight from Henry Goldgard, unwilling psychic.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Sun Nov 27, 2005  at  03:14 AM
Joeodd said:

"wasnt that an episode of buffy the vampire slayer?"

That's why Carmen's rambling sounded familiar! It was an ep of Buffy.
Posted by Smerk  in  to mischief  on  Sun Nov 27, 2005  at  03:55 AM
Huh, um, no. I don't even watch that show! cool hmm Freaky...
Posted by Lady Hedoniste  in  Chilling with 14 other tiny people in your head.  on  Sun Nov 27, 2005  at  01:47 PM
If you have this stuff in your brain, MRI would kill you for certain. Strong magnetic field will suck your brain out through your ears and nose...
Posted by Loxx  on  Mon Nov 28, 2005  at  02:03 PM
Hi,

I would like to warn anyone looking to buy Magneurol, that it is a scam. I read about the product a few months ago and purchased the product in October. - At the time they claimed to have a huge back-order.

Anyway, i received the product in November and have been using for past 3.5 weeks now. It is nothing but small vitamins that you can buy from a store for $10.

The product does nothing that it has stated. There is no radiation feeling? No opening of 3rd eye etc.. i know this as i know what opening of 3rd eye feels like. smile)))

I have been able to move tiny objects placed on a table..and this product does not do anything extra.. there is no extra great feeling at all.

Please save your $49 + shipping cost and just purchase some vitamins from a store.

There is no secret formula to having 6th sense powers or opening the 3rd eye, or making you feel closer to the earth's magnetic field. These are all hoaxes.

What you need to do is do mind excercises on a daily basis and read books that actually guide you to opening your 3rd eye.

Forget pills or magic potions.. save and buy books. grin

Hope this helps anyone looking to purchase Magneurol.

Regards,
Ash
Posted by Ash  in  Canada  on  Wed Dec 07, 2005  at  12:57 PM
I can also move tiny objects placed on a table. I just pick them up and move them. It's amazing to see.
Posted by The Curator  in  San Diego  on  Wed Dec 07, 2005  at  01:11 PM
I dont agree with guru ash there... i think it's not wise at all to jump to conclusions like that for an enlightened master like Ash, especially when you have a total of 3 eyes wide open and can perform special tricks as described.
Maybe if youre so high up there at the right hand side of god it may even be possible that this pill will actually bring you down but for the lay ppl it might have positive effects. I say we wait for some more feedback from regular people and then make a more accurate statement.
Maybe there isnt enough feedback because there is something to it and ppl are keeping it to themselves instead of telling everyone. I would do the same if i took the risk of getting ripped off and it turns out it works.
Posted by m4dg33k  on  Tue Dec 13, 2005  at  11:09 PM
m4dg33k said:

"Maybe there isnt enough feedback because there is something to it and ppl are keeping it to themselves instead of telling everyone. I would do the same if i took the risk of getting ripped off and it turns out it works."

Wow, talk about going from the Bronx to Brooklyn by way of Wisconsin! You're trying REALLY hard to rationalize this nonsense, aren't you?

Giving the benefit of the doubt is fine but you don't have to throw out all logic in the process. Occam's Razor, my good man (or woman). The simpler answer is that the whole thing is a fake.

There isn't any good evidence that ESP exists, therefore there is none that a pill can "increase" it. Think of it like this: pigs can't fly so there's nothing you can feed them that will help them fly BETTER.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Wed Dec 14, 2005  at  04:04 PM
Ah but Cranky, you forgot that magic corn that Santa uses to make his reindeer fly. The same thing could be used to make pigs fly. By proving that part of your argument false, I've illogically proved all of it false and therefore, ESP is real.

'nuff said. raspberry
Posted by Charybdis  in  Hell  on  Wed Dec 14, 2005  at  06:23 PM
Nice... the razor
Maybe there's a reason why it applies so well to theoretical matters cause if everyone would go by it in real life, we would still be in caves drawing sketches on the walls with our own shit. 12 year life expectancy, hunt, eat, shit, sleep and sketch... simple enough?

I don't want to hear what's in anyone's head but i wouldnt mind knowing a few days in advance that a tsunami will flush my house or be able to get a gut feeling that some murderer is close by. Intuition is real and saying that it cannot be improved is just retarded. And animals, even some ppl can sense natural disasters before they happen...
And yes, in a very crude manner as i realize now, i was just trying to give it the benefit of the doubt at least until more feedback builds up.
Posted by m4dg33k  on  Wed Dec 14, 2005  at  09:14 PM
Oh, here's a more creative concept to use instead of occam's razor:
If something can be done through hard work and perseverence then there is a quicker and easier way to get it done.
Applying this concept may require some intelligence whereas all you need for the razor is heaping ignorance.
Posted by m4dg33k  on  Wed Dec 14, 2005  at  10:15 PM
Charybdis said:

"Ah but Cranky, you forgot that magic corn that Santa uses to make his reindeer fly. The same thing could be used to make pigs fly. By proving that part of your argument false, I've illogically proved all of it false and therefore, ESP is real."

[shaking my fist] Damn you, Charybdis! Grrrr.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Thu Dec 15, 2005  at  02:42 AM
m4dg33k said:

"Maybe there's a reason why it applies so well to theoretical matters cause if everyone would go by it in real life, we would still be in caves drawing sketches on the walls with our own shit. 12 year life expectancy, hunt, eat, shit, sleep and sketch... simple enough?"

Huh? What does that have to do with the idea that, when presented with two possibilities, one should probably go with the simpler one?

"Oh, here's a more creative concept to use instead of occam's razor:
If something can be done through hard work and perseverence then there is a quicker and easier way to get it done.
Applying this concept may require some intelligence whereas all you need for the razor is heaping ignorance."

At the risk of repeating myself: Huh?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Thu Dec 15, 2005  at  02:44 AM
maybe it works, maybe it doesnt....i havent tried it. but to say esp doesnt work lol.....if ur idea of esp is hollywood movies..kk sorry dude yeah thats probably fake....and yeah i believe for the majority of people that think inside the box esp is fake...im sure the theory or relativity was fake too until Einstein took the status quo to school. keep an open mind or you will never experience anything new...always question everything but dont dismiss it just because it sounds "crazy"....
Posted by What if...  on  Thu Dec 22, 2005  at  07:45 PM
This makes very entertaining reading! I've been following several online discussion of this "metaphysical product" and have been amazed at the ever expanding gullibility of the human race and the degree to which folks mutilate English in discussing "Magneurol," which is, incidentally, a great name for a cure all placebo. Hopefully someone got paid very well for thinking of it! Very interesting... I should try making some weird pill... I could use a little extra cash.

I too can move small objects on a table with my mental powers... and read the thoughts of perfect strangers.
Posted by The Blood Eagle  in  Middle Earth  on  Fri Dec 23, 2005  at  03:12 PM
What if said:

"always question everything but dont dismiss it just because it sounds "crazy"...."

We don't dismiss it because it sounds crazy. We strongly question it because it has NEVER been proven when tested by a proper protocol.

Yes, that's right: ESP has NEVER been proven to exist. If and when it is, we will be forced to accept it. Speaking for myself, I will be happy to accept it if it is proven. It will make the world a MUCH more interesting place. I'm not going to believe in it, however, solely for the sake of having an "open mind." That's just silly.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Fri Dec 23, 2005  at  07:48 PM
Cranky,
If you cant see that your razor logic doesnt go well with creativity and development or progress in general then maybe you should read more and post less.

Eagle,
There is also a difference between being open minded and being gullible as What if pointed out
Nice sarcasm there on the esp tho...

It is fairly safe to say that hard data is still the best way to go about this and unfortunately the only one here who claims to have tried this pill has completely discredited himself or is at best part of a very small group which in turn would bear very little on the final conclusion.

The fact that the Magneurol people haven't conducted proper experiments using placebo, control and magneurol groups is suspect. They used some students and blindfolded them and got them to point to the campus after driving them around.... not good enough by any standards. And there are no names of who conducted the experiments or any detailed statistical data from the experiments not to mention it was back in 76. All they have is stories which could easily be optimistical interpretations of sloppy experiments.
If anything, the pigeon experiment shows that this product is useless or worse. Maybe the pigeons who were fed the stuff from birth developed a resistance to its toxic effects and were able to perform almost as well as normal pigeons. The ones that were fed the stuff after they were weaned got all messed up. And what kind of researcher doesnt include a reference group? or maybe the magneurol marketing team conveniently left that out of the presentation... the group that was fed normal food maybe had 0% loss (they were homing pigeons after all).

For those who dont know what i'm referring to go here: http://www.magneurol.com/how_it_works.html

If they are selling a lot of this stuff we should see a lot more feedback soon. And if it works as they claim, this product will be on every shelf in every store selling for the same price as vitamin C in less than 1 year.
Posted by m4dg33k  on  Fri Dec 23, 2005  at  09:29 PM
m4dg33k said:

"If you cant see that your razor logic doesnt go well with creativity and development or progress in general then maybe you should read more and post less."

Why don't you walk poor stupid me through it, Einstein?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Sat Dec 24, 2005  at  03:33 AM
Cranky,
I dont really need to teach you anything... you study the razor concept a little more in depth and then you will see it doesnt always apply the way you think.
I give you a hint: A cube can be defined by 8 points and it's a very simple structure, right?
If you take away 1 of the points, you have less points but the structure you're left with is more complex.
Symmetry and pattern carry a lot of weight also, it's not always about the number of elements so you can't throw out creativity.
Here's some homework for you:
Which one of the following 2 strings is "simpler":
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
1,2,4,9,5,10,8
Posted by m4dg33k  on  Sat Dec 24, 2005  at  01:21 PM
If I were to guess that proprietary blend is most likely close to 100% DMAE. The "magnetitum is essentially magnetized iron" (http://www.magneurol.com/benefits_mind.html) and it's most likely around 10mg.. they wouldnt want people to OD on iron.

Anyone interested in this theory/product just keep your multivitamin close to a magnet before taking it and get some DMAE. Save $49
Posted by m4dg33k  on  Sat Dec 24, 2005  at  01:56 PM
...I think this is great - I mean - marketing the idea that you can increase psychic ability by simply ingesting a pill. It's beautiful. I love pills and placebos. In America, there's a pill for anything and everyone. God Bless the Pharmacy.
Posted by The Blood Eagle  in  Middle Earth  on  Tue Dec 27, 2005  at  06:43 PM
to me m4dg33k makes total sense since hes obviously done his homework and is quite familiar with esp, quite recently this is becoming more popular becuz it is actually attainable and were all born with it, we just have to open, i mean it does take a lot of special exercises and time (like years) but is very possible, we do have a part in our brain that subconsciously scans the environment 24/7 and this is one of the "6th senses" that we have, also it relatively easy to actually move the arrow on a compass even for a beginner, and moving a cup across a table is harder then actually lifting it thru esp, why? study physics and youll know friction is a force. By the way to advance/evolve you must first accept that its or anything is possible, once youve done that, you can go on to striving for the goal you wish, for example you keep saying ur gonna do bad on an example, you probly will.
Posted by IgnoranceIsBliss  in  usa  on  Wed Dec 28, 2005  at  12:44 AM
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