Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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He'd told story after story, each one making Jim look a bigger fool than the last, but the stories were obvious exaggerations if not out and out fabrications, and Graham's jealousy towards his late BiL was palpable.
As for Gerald Pitts and this Loyer person--how anyone can be so gullible and credulous as to believe this nonsense is beyond me. Loyer doesn't resemble Jim in any way that I can see, and how anyone can believe that Jim Morrison the genius singer, poet and filmmaker would choose instead to fake his death and spend the rest of his working life as a bricklayer is beyond comprehension.
Finally, a few months ago someone on this site posted a link to an L.A. Times article from February 1988, about a destitute bricklayer and ex-con named William Loyer who was living in a southern California motel with his 7 children, while various social agencies and charitable individuals tried to help the family.
It's very clearly the same William Loyer as the current Morrison wannabe, and it establishes once and for all that there's no connection whatsoever between this Loyer person and the late Jim Morrison of the Doors.
I was very curious to see how Jlizard and David Logan would react to this article, but you know what? There was no reaction from either of those gentlemen, in fact there was no reaction from anyone. None. Zip. Zilch. Apparently no one even bothered to read the article.
So here it is again:
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-22/local/me-29919_1_motel-room?pg=2
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Now, let there be an end to this nonsensical thread. It's a disgrace to the memory of an American icon, and a friend.
Thank you.
I have observed Ray Manzerick since stardom. He has seen my photographs. I think he is being very sincere. Page 27. He always covered up for Jim.
Page 49 by Chris shows the nose.
Rodeos West was dropped in 2000. 2 reasons: Gerald didn't know the importance of confidence. He could only see dollar signs and fame. The backwoods cornpone productions orchestrated almost solely by Gerald has become a hit. A bit of a scalawag, I believe his heart was mostly in the right place. Jlizard maybe we should change the lead in to this site. No one has taken a dime.
Jim never wanted his family involved. Thanks to desperation some have grabbed at every straw. Gerald started it. Against every wish, including involving the Doors. He became desperate.
Jim has asked "Who would want to be Jim Morrison?" "Prove that I'm not."
Jim Morrison never wanted his family involved. With foresight of a genius he realized the scandal that could plague everyone. So go to my site highmountainRogue.com. Deal with the man.
HighMountainRogue.com stands alone.
Cowboys ain't easy to love and their harder to hold. They do things different and if they don't die young they'll probably just ride away.
It is simply LUDICROUS to believe that by 1974--three short years after his allegedly faked death, Jim Morrison would have been so desperate for money that he would have resorted to burglary and would have GONE TO PRISON upon conviction for that crime.
You didn't know Jim or you would know how utterly and completely preposterous that is; one of the reasons the real Jim Morrison went to France was to await the results of the appeal of his 1970 conviction on various charges as a result of the Miami fiasco in 1969. France has no extradition treaty with the U.S. so if he lost the appeal he couldn't be forced to return to this country to serve his sentence.
Surely by now it's beginning to dawn on you that you are dealing with someone who knew the real Jim Morrison up close and personal, as they say, and I can assure you the thought of going to prison literally gave the man nightmares, to which I was eyewitness. He was convinced he'd be killed in prison, and his nightmares involved various methods by which he'd be murdered.
I'm not going to rebut any more of your arguments point by point because it's obviously a waste of time, but I will say it's offensive in the extreme to see you and "Jlizard" ramble on about Ray and Jim and and The Doors and Jim's family as if either one of you knew any of these people personally, because you don't.
What you know are simply two pathetic smalltime grifters and con men, and how anyone can think for a minute that the tall (he was 6'1" at the time of his death), blue-eyed, supremely handsome, well bred and well educated WASP James Douglas Morrison could somehow morph into a short (what is Loyer, 5'8" or thereabouts?) brown-eyed working class apparent Mestizo with a big nose--and tattoos, no less! Jim HATED tattoos, just as most people of our generation and upbringing did (and still do).
Oh, and Jlizard? The Morrisons were Presbyterian, not Catholic, I don't care what you may have read Break On Through (and Stephen Davis's wretched book?)
Finally, horses mouth, I suppose it's possible that Alan Graham may have bloodied Jim's nose in one of their (alleged) brawls but he certainly didn't break it. Jim's nose was small and perfectly straight, and I was quite jealous of it. :lol:
Your site is pathetic and silly, Mr. Logan, and I doubt "the man" has the stones to deal personally with someone who knew the real Jim as I did, but I've already mentioned my own experience as a horsewoman and the nickname Jim gave me as a result. When are you going to ask your "man" what that nickname was?
I appreciate how you stepped up today- wow! Your sincerity in trying to resolve this matter is undaunted, but again, lying ears will only hear lying tongues- or rock stars.
Janet,
Jim is a Catholic. I have to leave it at that.
Finally, logical thinking, huh. We never said this story was logical (but if you knew a few more facts you'd know Jim Morrison wannabe", "He's probably imagining all this"... Until you tell us Janet, you're probably less logical than DR. MARSHA, MD. Oh, and tell us who she is and how you didn't do your residency with her.
The real Jim would spit in contempt at such cowardice.
Let's make that YOUR epitaph you fire thrower.
If so, then
FILL YORE HAND YOU SONOFABITCH!
:lol:
--------Saying that's Jim Morrison is like sayin
I am Janis Joplin and I'm a guy-----A**hole!!!
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Has your sad little fraud come up with my nickname yet, btw? Or are you all frantically searching through the books looking for it? Don't waste your time. You won't find it, or any mention of me, as far as I know (I don't read the bloody things).
and JLizard, Bill Loyer may very well be Catholic; most Hispanics are.
Jim Morrison, OTOH, was raised Presbyterian, as are most Scots-Irish.
Seriously define your relationship, give some specifics. Maybe Bill will come in and rescue me. There were alot of hats. You will have to be specific. Times, dates and places.
No I am not researching you. I have been a close observer since light my fire.
Fill yore hand J.E. you have too. JW.
And Horsey, Jim wouldn't have been bald, his hair wasn't like the Admiral's or Andy's. His was extremely thick, coarse, and wavy/curly. Men with hair like that never lose it, the tradeoff being it tends to turn grey/white sooner than usual. Bill Clinton is a good example of that.
The Erwin men (and women) have that kind of hair too, so you could say I'm something of an expert on it. 😉
Also, Jim did have fair skin, but it was the kind that tans deeply rather than freckles.
You're right about the teeth, though--those prominent front teeth. The Admiral had 'em, Jim had 'em, Cliff has 'em. Dunno about Andy and Anne, but I'd be surprised if they didn't.
By the way, Mr. Logan--I take it you're personally acquainted with Bill Loyer? Did you ever notice whether he had a lot of fillings in his teeth? If you didn't, perhaps you could ask him about that, too? Thanks.
I'm not going by pictures, I'm going by what I know personally. Jim had a high forehead, and when he stopped getting his hair layered it showed, because he didn't have the bangs falling into his face anymore.
Besides, I asked him if he'd actually lost any hair, meaning was it receding, and he said he wasn't sure but he didn't think so. I asked because some jealous asswipe of a journalist had described him in print as "pudgy and balding," and I could see for myself that he wasn't anywhere close to pudgy, but I had no way to judge whether his hairline was receding or not.
Actually he first said he was losing huge clumps of hair every day, and that's actually true--but then so was I, and of course he knew that, that was the joke.
See, when you've got "three times as much hair as normal people" (as a frustrated hairdresser once said to me--she was trying to blow it dry and it was taking forever), three times as much comes out when you brush it, too. And if you don't brush it thoroughly before you wash it, it clogs up the drain three times as fast, too... :ohh:
That RIP thing never made much sense to me, I think it sounds really boring. Why would anyone want to "rest in peace" after physical death, when they're free of the restrictions of time and space and a physical body, and the entire Universe is theirs to explore?
I'm absolutely sure that by now, that you're both realize that you're being exposed to ridicule By the same old silly cows who originally wrote nasty comments from day one..their names may have changed,; however their manic expressions haven't.
You must both see by now that their M/O has nothing to do with the "Jim Alive" debate, rather than drinking cheap vodka fuel and subsisting on vitriolic nastiness.
I for one can't blame them as you're both stringing this whole saga out in the most painful manner. I do however hate their miniscule brained "raison D'Etre", thinking that they can trounce you with their drunken hic dumb-fuckistan brains.
I leave you with this, as someone who knows about these things...Don't in a million years accept the H1N1 vaccine!..reject it and fight your Doctor if he tries to force it on you..it's sheer poison..and your Government wants you dead. Don't believe me? Google "New World Order".
I believe that it's my duty as a 33rd degree Master Mason to warn you all.,..don't take the vaccine..it'll kill you!
John, I'm risking a lot in saying this..warn your friends even if the morons on this site don't want to.
Second, I don't drink vodka. I got deathly ill on two screwdrivers when I was first learning to drink and haven't touched it since, nor have I posted anything on this site (or anywhere else) after drinking anything stronger than black coffee.
Finally, it's astonishing to me that I've aroused such hostility from people who not only didn't know Jim Morrison, but who apparently don't know Bill Loyer either.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't David Logan and his wife the only people posting here who've actually spent time with the imposter?
& is that the Twilight Zone theme I'm hearing...? :lol:
I am anticipating the wrath that will inevitably follow after posting this information *gasp* anonymously.
You see this event in a different way then we can imagine. Sorry if we seem brash. The DOORS community was nothing but hateful when I posted there. When I posted on Manzarek's site, the whole site went down for a couple of days within an hour of my Bill Loyer posting. They said it was due to construction. Alan Graham called Bill Loyer and afterward posted on his site that anything is possible.
Janet we have been fighting for 10 years trying to get an answer as to who Bill Loyer is. Police records show that there is no record of him prior to 1971. Logan tells us he has encyclopediac knowledge of Jim Morrison.
I did not comment to the article of him living with all those kids in a hotel because the man in that picture was going through hell and having been there before, my fists clench in wanting to help him and smash those who laugh at his misfortune. Rationally, the next question on would have is how did the person in this poverty picture end up in oceanfront property with a very successful medical doctor.
Please email me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) if I can ever be of assistance.
Sincerely,
JLizard
To answer your friend Janet Erwin's riddle on the condition of Bill Loyer's teeth, here is what she is looking for;
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6. Nope. He had 20/20 vision and perfect teeth (no cavities, no fillings) and only one tooth was out of alignment, so no real need for braces.
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