Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.
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This message board is about Jim Morrison's death/not death, could you please keep it to the subject matter and leave me out of it.
Chris
Forensics expert Dr. Jim Hales has met Jim.
Doctor Hales has worked on hundreds of cases. One of the nations respected leading experts. Hales had to work on the Dallas flight that went down in the 80's. Lost the whole flight. Fire.
The signature matches right out of the raw. Not one detail is missing. Dr. Hales believe's Jim.
Nobody's holding back anythig. For the fans there will be more pictures and information for you to decide analitically. Or from your gut. Please not hysterical conjecture. Hey guess what it's free. Bye
I said he believes Jim. That's where we are.
Early 90's Jim morrison moves into the western mountains.
1995 Gerald Pitts and David Logan form Rodeos West. Nothing happens. A junior rodeo we filmed and announced in 98 had just happened to have been visited with our Jim. Mike Sabbatini with the sound, a 20yr. retirement veteran for Paramount, had just joined Rodeos West and had met Jim when he was younger. Later agreeing and enjoying the friendship that indeed this was Jim.
1997-98 our good friend Wilson had been delivering hay to these people. A surrealistic year of wondering for Wilson and Jim introduced himself. That's where I come in. After Wilson quit spinnin.
2000-2004 We begin to split ways with Rodeos West.
2004 or so JLizard thinks he's discovered something as well as many other's, Brett Hudson of Current Affair, Adrianna Rubio several interesting talk show hosts. I can think of many others who have made the discovery. I know, not much to go on?
I have worked with and worked for Jim for the last 10 yrs. Why do you think we are doing this? Oh Yea? I don't know why. Na just kiddin. Whether you believe it or not please bare with us while we search this out.
Nobody is all partners on this website. They're researchers and such and of course special fan's. Some light communications have been made is all I know
Read the third page, I don't know who, but it say's Ray, Robbie and John. "the monks bought lunch" Could be a hoax.
How about that hug for everybody. : )
More information coming for highmountainrogue.com Photo's, video and a little vocal.
For humanitarian purposes.
Listen we can't treat this guy like Gumbi and try to shove him through the fence to greener pasture. Reshape to our liking. Box it up and put a name on it.
There is no confusion in my mind. More than just "believe" or probing a clone. Too many matches. 100's of hrs. of conversation. I can't help but believe it. Noo I haven't been drinkin to much kool-aid.
I think it's awesome. We are going to do all we can to get you to the bottom of it.
I like the picture in his tape where Jim was going to mount up and the wind was picking up and his horse didn't like it. We had made them wait, you know the party was on.
I believe it wholeheartedly.
Ultimately all we need is proof one way or another. I'm sorry to upset some folk, but I don't actually give a hoot if Jim's alive or dead!..What worries me is that some people are trying to make money out of this mystery.
R.I.P Jim..if you're dead you have no choice in the matter..If you're alive..stop this B.S right now..you have a duty of care towards thse folk who contribute towards this site, some 37 years after you purported death!.
Best Regards,
Andrew
might want to check out jymsbooks.com too! Writing Under the Influence of Rock 'n' Roll!
Jim
Jim Morrison alive.
Ok so here's what I need. How can I get videos off memory of phone (not card) they will not transfer to card???? The man at Verizon said I needed cord to put on computer. How do you get this? Is this the only way. Please help and I will give you hungry people what you need. David is not greedy I can attest. He is too caring to have walked all over people like his family and wife's rights. Big Jim will expose when we embrace his our desire to see him again. He, could be scared shitless, what would be his consequences? Idolized at one point then publically disgraced from everyone's anger that he stayed away so long?.....
WWYD? Think about it.
If your video is spectacular and makes it most obvious to everyone and their mother that this is Jim Morrison perhaps it would create a little excitement in our Museum, but it wouldn't shake up the world. I contend that the only people who can create the deserved stir are the big names in the entertainment industry. And again they would do this at the peril of sacrificing their own limelight so that Jim could have what we feel is appropriate recognition and no rock star wants to do this.
This entire project is about breaking out to the world that Jim Morrison is still alive in a way that Jim wants us to, right. The biggest flaw in what Gerald Pitts is doing is that he disregards Jim's instructions and that's why Jim doesn't work with him anymore.
I'll let you in on a disheartening secret: Jim doesn't really want to come out to the public right now. I don't know why but I love to speculate too- is it because of his health (and RK, I understand you're in the medical profession so you know what I mean), is he having more fun raising a family as a common man, has painting become his obsession (I live in Seymour, IN and if you ever went to the Southern Indiana Center for the Arts you'd be surprised that John Mellencamp is also a singer! Paul Stanley from KISS has also completely been drawn to painting), or is it that book he's writing (which David tells us about).
My videos on youtube have gotten over 330,000 hits- but it has taken three painstakingly slow years for them to do so. One of the first things that David told me when I met him was that Jim knew of my efforts and appreciated them. Jim's wife Marsha later affirmed this (I think 😊 ). I have learned some invaluable lessons while working on this project, but wisdom doesn't come easy and I'm still paying the price. As Andy Carp has recently posted, there is nothing as valuable as friendship- and friendship can be bought.
Now listen up, everyone: Jim Morrison of the Doors died of a heroin overdose in the early morning of July 3rd, 1971 in the Rock'n'Roll Circus nightclub in Paris (but in a hallway, not in the head as Sam Bernett has alleged).
Pamela Courson was not present, nor was she at their apartment when Jim's body was there and placed in a tub of cold water in a futile attempt to revive him.
She had nothing to do with his death, but blamed herself--probably rightly--for his trying (and liking) heroin in the first place. They were both snorting it, in the false belief--which was widely held at the time--that it was much less dangerous if inhaled rather than injected. Clearly it's not.
As to Jim's alleged offspring, NO ONE has had a DNA test, and Cliff Morrison was never offered that test by the Morrison family and refused it, as I was once told (and repeated publicly and erroneously on The Doors' Lizard Lounge).
However, it is true that Cliff was informally accepted as their grandson by the senior Morrisons, now both deceased.
I don't know anything about Chris Bangs except that he was allegedly conceived when Jim was still living in Florida (pre-fame, pre-Doors) and that allegedly Chris himself denies the story quite vociferously and angrily.
Finally, Patricia Kennealy writes fiction--Strange Days included.
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Second, even if Jim himself, or rather his spirit, had told me how he'd died, legally it's still hearsay when I repeat the information.
Same regarding Cliff, or anyone else I might quote on any subject.
Well, except what I said about Kennealy. I was there for much of what she's lied about concerning Jim (and "Tiffany") so most of what I have to say on that sorry subject is firsthand information and NOT hearsay.
Finally, "horses mouth," grow a spine and use your real name if you expect anyone to take you seriously, otherwise most will be inclined to think of you as another part of the horses' anatomy altogether, know what I mean? 😉
but I'm just trying to "up the game" a bit. and you've always been sympathetic towards my point of view.
Anyway john,..Peace
Andrew XX
Cliff IS a Morrison, Patricia Kennealy most definitely is not--though anyone can do what she did and have a legal name change, as long as they've got the $$.
As for me, I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be, a Morrison, either by blood or by marriage.
Don't know about Chris Bangs, though if he denies he's Jim's son I'd tend to take him at his word; and the rest of these people are either frauds or people who've been duped by frauds.
So that pretty much leaves you, little horse's banana, and since you'd rather slink off than tell us who you really are--well, what can I say except buhbye, chickens**t?
Oh please--pictures lie all the time, and exactly what kind of research do you claim to have done? Have you ever met or spoken to any member of the Morrison family? Any of the surviving members of The Doors? Any of Jim's close friends?
Of course you haven't, because none of those people would let you come within a country mile of them. They know Jim is dead, and moreover there've been hucksters and frauds claiming otherwise, even claiming to be him, virtually from the moment his death was made public.
I haven't read enough of this website to know which of the many frauds and hucksters you've been duped by, but I can assure you, you have been duped (unless you're the one doing the duping, I suppose; or unless the person claiming to be Jim Morrison really believes his IS Jim, in which case he's not a deliberate fraud, he's simply insane).
I can also assure you that however painful it may be for you to face the fact that you've been duped, it will be nothing compared to the pain those of us who knew and loved the real Jim Morrison experienced upon learning that he'd left this world.
Thank you.
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Dear readers, Pitts and his silly cowboy scam have been the laughingstock of the Morrison/Doors world for years. I seem to remember some talk of lawsuits from the Doors organization and/or the Morrison Estate when this nonsense first started ten years or so ago, but apparently it was decided that it simply wasn't worth the effort.
No one takes these people seriously, although occasionally some poor fan who's new to the Lizard Lounge will post a link to Pitts' BS, and then someone else will have to clue the poor kid in. It's sad that people are so gullible.
Finally-and talk about gullible-surely that photo at the top of every page can't be the cowboy who's pretending he's Jim, can it? because whoever he is, he doesn't resemble Jim in the slightest, except for the dark hair. Seriously, though--just how loony do you have to be to try to pass this guy off as Jim?
I think you're doing a pretty good job and its ok to be a skeptic, but believe me, David, myself, Bill's neighbor's in Oregon- we are not trying to dupe anyone. We are not insane. And we choose not to tell all of our facts simply because it is Bill's story to tell when he's good and ready.
Gerald has spoken to an engineer who worked with Jim and said this was him, yes. But as we persist, the rest of the DOORS will not return our calls or receive our certified letters. And definitely I've talked to Cliff, Chris and Alan Graham, Jim's ex brother in law, who did NOT break Bill's nose as widely was rumored.
How about if you take a practice MCAT test with Dr. Marsha and you can get half her score we'll drop the story and follow you. Actually we need healers as far as this saga goes, not flustered cry babies.
And I'm sorry, I don't believe for a minute that anyone who ever worked with the real Jim would accept Pitts' and/or Loyer's claims. Did you happen to get the name of this engineer Pitts says he talked to, so you could verify Pitts' claim? And if not, why not?
And you say you've talked to Cliff, Chris and Alan Graham? Mind telling us what they had to say?
Btw, I took the time to check out the JM section of Pitts' website, and it's the cheesiest, most pathetic thing I think I've ever seen. Are we really supposed to believe that "Jim" actually outed himself several years ago and no one apparently noticed? No headlines, no press? Get real.
I'm not surprised that The Doors refuse to have anything to do with any of you; the only surprise is that Manzarek and Krieger allow Pitts to keep that video up, although anyone with a functioning brain would realize Manzarek was being sarcastic. Krieger's expression alone makes that clear.
It's no surprise either that Loyer bears no resemblance to Jim whatsoever in any of the photos, nor would Jim have been caught dead (to coin a phrase) wearing the crappy, cornpone hats Loyer seems to favor.
Which reminds me--I'm something of a cowgirl myself, even used to rodeo a little--and one of Jim's nicknames for me reflected that (he liked my hats, too). So why don't you ask Loyer what that nickname was, and get back to us?