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Yet Another Solution for the World’s Power and Energy Needs
The GMC Holding Corporation sure isn't bashful about what it believes to be the potential market value of its new technology. According to this press release, its technology will solve the world's energy needs, providing pollution-free power to any kind of motorized product (car, boat, golf cart, etc.). And here's the best part: "The overall market value is expected to exceed a trillion dollars over the next 10 years and these estimates are more than likely to be low." Wow! A trillion dollars! I bet the stock value of the GMC Holding Corporation must be going through the roof after announcing a trillion-dollar product like that. Yup. It was up 20 cents yesterday, to end trading at $1.40. Obviously the market sees huge potential in this technology. But just what is this mysterious revolutionary technology? According to their website: "The prototype motor presented is a permanent magnet design, with the magnets suspended in an inner frame forming the rotor and multiple coils embedded in an outer frame forming the stator... The motor is designed on the known principals set forth by Nikola Tesla." Magnetic coils? Tesla? Oh, I understand now. It's another perpetual motion machine.
Free Energy
Posted by The Curator on Thu Dec 09, 2004


Actually, what they describe (I haven't checked the videos) is a conventional brushless DC motor with a slightly unusual controller. Here's a link to a similar motor:

http://www.engin.umich.edu/labs/csdl/ME350/motors/dc/index.html

They did have a rather ammusing attempt to extrapolate the data from one test to claim that their device could work as an "over-unity machine," but ammusingly enough, the machine was definitely not coming anywhere close to behaving that way in the actual test. The device itself seems to be a plausable version of an electric motor, and nothing more. Unfortunately, unless it's in the videos, they don't give any useful details about how it's supposed to work, otherwise I could have more fun picking their claim apart.
Posted by Matt  on  Thu Dec 09, 2004  at  02:06 PM
I'm with Matt. I'm no engineer, but my first impression is that this is simply a description of an ordinary electric motor.

All this foolishness is distracting people from more urgent issues, such as the need to ban dihydrogen oxide.
Posted by Big Gary C  in  Dallas, Texas  on  Thu Dec 09, 2004  at  02:34 PM
In their application section they claim that this machine can generate AC Power from 12 V DC batteries. I'm not sure if this is a trillion dollar invention but I can buy a DC to AV inverter at the store for $40.
Posted by Michael  in  Baltimore, Maryland  on  Thu Dec 09, 2004  at  02:37 PM
I found a little more information:
ZPEnergy: Testing the GMC Holding Corp. device
In fact, if you want to take the system out to dinner or whatever we have no problem either. We don't live in that so called con or charlatan world. I have worked on Wall Street now for approx 35 years and I will not issue statements especially of this magnitude without being able to back them up. I could be indicted for issuing a fraudulent press release on a publicly traded company of which I am the principal officer. I am an extremely conservative person to begin with. We have taken this technology to a whole different level than some of those who have attempted to do things in this area.

Maybe, he really thinks this works. It is common in the perpetual motion "industry" for people to believe that if they "just manage to rearrange the magnets just right" they will achieve "over-unity".

The GMC Holdings press release page has a slightly less ambitious spin.
GMC has entered into agreement to purchase 10% (with an option for an additional 10%)of Enhanced Technologies International of Nevada, who have spent 12 years developing high-efficiency electro-magnetic pulse motors for applications in both industrial and home use. These pulse motors generate mechanical power while needing very limited or negligible amounts of electrical energy input. In addition, the motor can be designed and adapted for application to multiple power needs. These energy creating motors are quiet in operation, reliable, have no emissions and need little or no servicing. The unique design is a minimum of 300% more efficient than current electric motors. Electric motors use almost 30% of all electricity used in the U.S. This could have a tremendous impact on the electric motor market as more than 600,000 motors are replaced annually. The company's motors are expected to set a new standard in energy efficiency and bring new energy producing alternatives to the world market.

Many electrical motors achieve an efficiency better than 33% so even this would qualify as a perpetual motion machine.

I wonder how much was paid for this "acquisition". It is one thing for a backyard "inventor" to be promoting perpetual motion machines, but when publicly listed companies get involved, well, that's not good.

Of course, maybe it really works! grin
Posted by TurtleGuy  on  Thu Dec 09, 2004  at  03:30 PM
>>>It is one thing for a backyard "inventor" to be promoting perpetual motion machines, but when publicly listed companies get involved, well, that's not good.<<<

I don't see it that way. I'd say that until huge publicly-listed companies get involved with radical new technologies and start trying to actually make and incorporate them, we're going to be stuck burning dinosaur bones, which can't last forever.

I'm not saying there's necessarily any merit to this particular design (I'm not qualified to tell for one thing), but the corporations had BETTER start looking for an alternative to fossil fuels now, BEFORE we run out. Invention is a trial-and-error process, and it's going to take awhile to find something that works, but we HAVE to start looking in a serious way.

The only other alternative is to bury our heads in the sand until the oil runs out, plunging the world into chaos and a new dark age. Occasionally looking silly when your magnets won't line up, on the way to real progress, is much preferable.

Besides, damnit, I want my repulsorlift hovervehicles, laser pistols, and lightsabers. Hurry up and figure out how to make them! At least get *started*....
Posted by Barghest  on  Fri Dec 10, 2004  at  06:36 AM
I can't help with the hovervehicles, but if you knock the cover off a portable CD player, you pretty much have a laser pistol. It won't burn anybody up, but it could blind someone if you aim it well enough. (Those little laser pointer thingies beloved by lecturers have the same capablility.)
Posted by Big Gary C  in  Dallas, Texas  on  Fri Dec 10, 2004  at  12:16 PM
At least this doesn't seem like the sort of publicly traded company I'm too worried about, just another penny stock on the pink sheets. You'll notice that one of their other acquisitions they brag about in the same press release is how they got a great deal on some Florida swamp land.

I don't think we will find a solution to energy problems by looking at "something-for-nothing" plans. Every workable energy source humanity has found uses, well, a real energy source that puts energy into it rather than pulling it out of nothing like "over-unity" or perpetual motion machines claim to do. There are some borderline loony claims that may work - for example, somebody claimed he had a process for turning meat byproducts into a petroleum substitute, but these at least have some plausability.

My guesses for the most promising energy sources are likely to be solar power and hydrogen fusion. While I would like to see more funding for fusion research, quite a few large companies are involved in research for solar energy. The biggest issue with that is cost.
Posted by Matt  on  Fri Dec 10, 2004  at  12:17 PM
I think it's a scam.
I am a mechanical engineer, but just some basic science and ability to look critically at data could tell you that something's fishy.

Let us settle one thing first. There's something very important called the First Law of Thermodynamics, which sounds complicated by isn't. It says that energy into a system equals energy out of a system plus any energy generated. Basically it says you can't get something for nothing. Put an ice cube into a cup of water and the energy goes from the water into the ice cube and melts it... energy isn't lost or gained but just moved around. This goes for everything. It's solid, don't even try to argue with it because practically everything you use was designed with this in mind.

Ok, look at their data. He says that with nothing hooked up to his motor it needs
24.46 volts x 30.9 amps = 755.81 Watts to run at 2360 rpm. This is just the amount of power to overcome the motor's own friction.

He then hooks it up to a generator, but he does not hook the generator up to anything. So essentially the motor power is being used by the fiction of itself plus the fiction of the generator. It takes
48.32 volts x 38.5 amps = 1763.38 Watts to run.

Now for the wierd part. He somehow just states that it takes 61 Watts of input power to the motor to spin the generator such that it generates 368 Watts of output.

Sooo... lets tally the power we put into the system versus the power we get out. Forget about his chart for now.
Motor Generator
1764 0
1825 368
1886 736
1947 1104
2008 1472
2069 1840
2130 2208

So basically he's saying that by putting in 2130 Watts you will get out 2208 Watts. What's happening, fuel being burned inside the motor?!

So there're talking about making energy from nothing, which is a perpetual motion machine and that's just silly. You can't deny the First Law.

Actually his whole experiment is silly. To test his motors he shouldn't stick a generator on there and measure the electricity generated. He should put a dynamometer on the shaft of his motor to measure the torque and rpm to get a direct power measurement.

Maybe I'm missing something, but to me it seems like a a scam... a perpetual motion machine to dupe investors.
Posted by Brian  on  Fri Dec 10, 2004  at  08:37 PM
Brian - Absolutely agreed, though I didn't take the time to research as thoroughly as you did, but enough for my satisfaction. It's probably good that Tesla didn't live to see most of his theorums crushed by modern science & technology. He did have a few promising prototypes, at the time, but practical application seemed to elude him. My vote - How about windmills on your car roof? Oh yeah, you covered that one, Alax.
Posted by stork  in  the spiracles of space  on  Sat Dec 11, 2004  at  12:35 AM
Whoa! Could I take that last word back? Hope I haven't committed a cardinal sin - it's ALEX! Sorry, Alex.
Posted by stork  in  the spiracles of space  on  Sat Dec 11, 2004  at  12:47 AM
Thanks stork. Actually, I sent a message to the FTC informing them of the scam. I don't know if it'll matter or if they aleady know, or if they can even do anything, but I figure, why not? There's another scam like this that surfaces on my local public-access tv station every once in a while, and it used to drive me nuts because the host of the tv show was so oblivious to it.
Posted by Brian  on  Sun Dec 12, 2004  at  03:07 PM
I heard in some alternative energy film:
Look we are making design better and better, only few years ago we put 100W into machine and receive 80W output, right now it is 90W output. It surly means, very soon we will get 100W output. And, if somebody stupid enough invest 100(at least 10) zillion, we gonna get 110 or even 120W output.
Posted by Loxx  on  Mon Dec 13, 2004  at  06:21 PM
This sounds intriguing. Let
Posted by Jim  in  Georgetown Ontario  on  Tue Dec 14, 2004  at  11:49 AM
Check out the follow URL: https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=475126

I did a little search regarding "Enhanced Technologies International of Nevada"

The Nevada State corporate registry list them as in default and their resident agent is "LegalZoom of Nevada" LegalZoom of Nevada is notorious for quick corporate registry for tax & legal purposes.

If it smells fishy.....

All the Best
WL
Posted by WL  on  Fri Jul 01, 2005  at  05:52 PM
Interesting;
how do you back up any skepticisms? also there are some like John Bedini, Tom Beardin, Peter Lindmann and people at JNL labs who work outside the parameters of "university physics" Concepts people just cannot understand (wasn't Tesla, Einstien thought of as crackpots?) I can afford to gamble a $100 to find out. Heck, I've lost more gambling in Atlantic City! Isn't trading stocks gambling anyway? if it REALLY is a scam you lose a little cash. but if not you were in at the ground floor.
Posted by gr8faith  in  USA  on  Wed Jul 06, 2005  at  02:44 PM
grin I have seen with my own eyes our machines operate and put out 5 to 1 power and once they are joined July 4th 2006 The World will be Blown Away ! I welcome GMC Holdings paving the way to public awareness . We are doing everything we can also to get the word out that there are alternatives to current ways of doing things . I urge everyone to go on my site and look what I have assembled to offer a Better World for Everyone <><
Posted by Rev. Dennis Drake  in  1445 E. Harmon Ave #204 LV NV. 89119 USA  on  Wed Jul 27, 2005  at  11:31 AM
In order to verify/vilify GMC Holdings data on this machine, can a separate test be conducted and the data published?
Posted by Marc j  on  Thu Sep 08, 2005  at  04:25 PM
I believe their system works. I can't give details on what I know, but I did talk to people there and got the feeling that the person I spoke to was not lying or some kind of conn artist. At the time (almost a year ago) the hurricane had just come through florida, and lots of people were without power. He was telling me how he wished that he could get these devices to people without power some of whom were elderly on respirators and stuff and I felt that it was a heartfelt desire. By the way, my understanding is that yes it does generate more energy than it takes in, (overunity? but he would not use that term). I felt that he was sincere. Is it possible he was lying and this whole thing is a scam? Yes, but as a public company, making false statements, my understanding is that these people could go to jail. One of the first things I told this person was, dude if your machine works the oil guys are going to make you all dissappear. He was aware of those issues and told me they were working with the government to put out the machine in a non-disruptive way. Lets face it if this thing works, the oil industry is going to be turned upside down. Anyway I did buy the stock I figured it was worth the risk, and I do believe in it. Am I a fool? maybe. But today they put out a press release that "GMC Holding Corp. Announces Public Demonstration Tours of Its REMAT Motors", so I feel a little better. Even if it is some sort of scam and my opinion is that it is not, to me it is worth investing money into something that may help us clean up this planet, even if the only thing it does is encourage more garage inventors (like myself which was how I found out about this as I was researching an idea) to work on their inventions and get something invented that help us stop this fossil burning madness. By the way, I believe that it does not break the laws of thermodynamics. I believe it gets the energy from the zero point field, but that is just my opinion.
Posted by Mark  in  FT Lauderdale  on  Thu Sep 08, 2005  at  07:06 PM
Two words...."Adams Motor".

Probably not a hoax, fellas.
Posted by DrWho  on  Sun Sep 11, 2005  at  11:01 AM
I know the motor.I know the maker. I have money vested in its evolution for the past three years.GMC corp. isnt the first exchange of stocks for the motor.
Posted by mighty might  in  WA.  on  Mon Sep 12, 2005  at  09:36 AM
I have been involved with this generator since before GMC. I know the inventor fairly well & have met most of the top GMC officials. I am a fairly good judge of character & it is my impression that these guys really do believe they have the real thing. They have a guy that is helping the inventor that has worked on similar designs that others came up with. He says this one is the first he has seen that works. He explained that one of the main problems with the others was excessive heat build up. I have seen the various REMAT designs including the newest, which is not on their web site. The various designs have had varying levels of success. It is my understanding that the newest is out performing the generator that was independently tested.
As some of the newer press releases state, the generator is being made ready for public demonstration. It is my understanding that the generator will be transported to locations close to various interested parties. Of course those interested parties are not small timers like most of us. GMC is currently preparing a secure method of transport. It is interesting to note that one of the arguments of some pessimist is that GMC might have their facility
Posted by alvie  on  Thu Oct 27, 2005  at  02:07 PM
Not saying anything, but here is a 12/22/2005 post about the matter.

"Those who care don't matter and those who matter don't care" - Dr. Suess(I think)
Posted by Jack  in  US  on  Thu Jan 19, 2006  at  12:32 AM
A heap of hooey. C'mon. Overunity. Where would the extra energy come from. My colleague said well yes - P=IV and missing factor is hertz. Extra voltage and amps produced but at far lower frequency(hertz). Now use an inverter to bring up the hertz to even 60 Hz, you will see lower volts and amps produced. So net result is a loss.
Posted by qwerty  in  qwerty,timbucktoo  on  Thu Mar 30, 2006  at  08:22 PM
Brian - Absolutely agreed, though I didn't take the time to research as thoroughly as you did, but enough for my satisfaction. It's probably good that Tesla didn't live to see most of his theorums crushed by modern science & technology. He did have a few promising prototypes, at the time, but practical application seemed to elude him. My vote - How about windmills on your car roof? Oh yeah, you covered that one, Alax.
Posted by stork on Fri Dec 10, 2004 at 09:35 PM

Interesting;
how do you back up any skepticisms? also there are some like John Bedini, Tom Beardin, Peter Lindmann and people at JNL labs who work outside the parameters of "university physics" Concepts people just cannot understand (wasn't Tesla, Einstien thought of as crackpots?) I can afford to gamble a $100 to find out. Heck, I've lost more gambling in Atlantic City! Isn't trading stocks gambling anyway? if it REALLY is a scam you lose a little cash. but if not you were in at the ground floor.
Posted by gr8faith in USA on Wed Jul 06, 2005 at 10:44 AM

Stork, gr8faith, I honestly think you both need to go back to your books - Oh that's right your books apparently have not 'clearly' told you the entire Truth about Tesla & Einstien other than the publishers on views wich were just one-sided moreover it also appears that you both are simply quoting from what you read from these books without looking beyond that because if you had, you would have quite a different opinion!

"It's probably good that Tesla didn't live to see most of his theorums crushed by modern science & technology."

You mean the same Modern technology that relys apoun burning dinsaur bones & sending people back to their deaths to mine coal as we did in the 1920's? That's real rich or should I ask who is getting rich on this backword technology you refer to as Modern? PLEASE Give Us a Break Already! And Leave TESLA Out of it, if it were not for this Great Man, you would not have AC Power!

(wasn't Tesla, Einstien thought of as crackpots?)

Hmm? A Crackpot who created Alternating Current and the modern space probes launched from NASA to study Gravitational Waves Based Upoun Einstien's Theories? well it sure don't make any sense to me either unless you two are correct about your statements & everyone else is a crackpot!

Think Smarter or work harder whatever.
http://www.teslatech.info
Posted by GVT12  in  Arizona  on  Tue Apr 25, 2006  at  01:49 AM
What ? Did the maker of the universe come down here and give man the laws of physics?

NO!

Let us not forget that the laws of thermodynamics and the conservation of motion are laws that we humans developed from observations. If sad observations were incorrect then the laws built form them are incorrect. Face it, this would not be the first time that a long held understanding has proven to be incorrect. I.E. ( The world is flat, The earth is the center of the universe and all the planets and stars revolve around us, If man were meant to fly we would have wings, Flying faster than the speed of sound is impossible.)

Until the day that gravity and magnetism is fully explained and understood, then nether, you nor I, can clam what is possible and not possible.
Posted by RealityBites  on  Sun Oct 28, 2007  at  12:29 AM
We also have another way to produce energy that works with water and no not even one group has hit on it that is that we have found. New Green Energy development Group . waiting for government grant .
Posted by John T. Vannest  in  North Port , Fl 34287  on  Thu Feb 21, 2008  at  02:47 PM
grinWe have seen the video of the GMC magnetic motor and love it But it needs one more simple component to make it much more accepted in the market and much less costly . smile New Green Energy Development Group
Posted by John T. Vannest  in  North Port , Fl 34287  on  Thu Feb 21, 2008  at  03:00 PM
It is a very innovative solution by GMC Holding Corporation, Excellent concept. Companies should come forward to take such initiatives.
Posted by Yogsie  on  Mon May 19, 2008  at  10:21 PM
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20465.htm

On February 22, 2008, the Securities and Exchange Commission filed an action against GMC Holding Corporation (GMC) and its chief executive officer, Richard Brace, for defrauding investors by issuing false press releases touting the company's development of a motor technology device capable of generating unlimited energy and negotiations to sell this technology for hundreds of millions of dollars. The Commission's complaint further alleges that these false press releases enabled GMC and Brace to raise more than $2 million from investors through illegal unregistered offerings of the company's stock.
Posted by Charybdis  in  Hell  on  Tue May 20, 2008  at  01:42 PM
This report is ... interesting. It is great information and the solar power is very useful to every one in coming days. The main aim is to reduce the environmental pollution and make it to be clear.
Posted by John  on  Sat Aug 01, 2009  at  07:45 AM
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