Face of Christ in Painting

image I received this email yesterday from an artist requesting my opinion. Feel free to leave your own opinion in the comments:

Being an artist, in August of 1996 I painted a picture.
It was supposed to be a simple picture of a large cross on a white background.
The picture is 24 x 30. The two axis of the cross are 11.5 inches wide.
Roughly 28 x 22.5. The cross was made by taking a pallet of mixed colors of paint and with one vertical and one horizontal swipe nothing more.

When the paint dried you could "I would say" clearly see the face of Christ on the cross. I was so afraid I put the picture away and in the last 8 years have only showed it to several of my friends. Please give me your honest input on what you see in and think about my picture.
You can either call or email me back.

This is no joke.

Warmest Regards,
DiMarcia (Dee) Ancrum


(Click on the image to enlarge it. I had to trim it down significantly because the image file was huge... 3.3MB)

Art Religion

Posted on Mon Jan 17, 2005



Comments

Well, I'm glad she can see it, because I can't. I suppose I can see something at the top of the cross, but I wouldn't leap to the conclusion it was Jesus.
Posted by Tanith  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  11:37 AM
The first time I looked at it, I could see the head and shoulders of a rather cartoonish looking man in the centre. The second time, I saw the face of a man in the cente with the eyes just below the top of the horizontal. Hey - if you're told something's there, then you're likely to see it.
Posted by Alaiva  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  11:52 AM
it's very clear.... top left hand side of the vertical bar..... Skeletor!
Posted by Azrael  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  12:20 PM
Who knows, if you say it's there, sell it on eBay.
Posted by sbnature  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:00 PM
If it's haunted by the ghost of Jesus, then it'll sell great on ebay.
Posted by Azrael  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:29 PM
Jesus is dubious. tehre's no beard, the eyes are off center--looks like jesus by way of Picasso, maybe. Now the face at the top, that is clearly Brak.
Posted by rwt1138  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:29 PM
The guy is obviously a religious nutcase. I don't see any face at all. If it really is a message from Jesus, could he ask him why God made the tsunami?
Posted by Captain Al  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:46 PM
I didn't see anything...
Posted by Maegan  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:48 PM
That totally doesn't look like me! I dont see it at all unless your like some religious person who wants to make $$$ off of some painting that you claim looks like me!
Posted by Jesus  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:53 PM
I'm pretty sure it's Mojo Nixon.
Posted by IndyGuy  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:57 PM
The picture is too grainy to really make much of anything out of the paint. Who paints two swipes of brown and calls it a painting anyway? I think he's trying to salvage a really BAD idea.
Posted by Andrew J  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:57 PM
I definately Skeletor in the upper left hand side, but not so much The Late Great JC.
Posted by DaveO  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  01:58 PM
I see nothing. Swipes of paint, which, like Andrew said, is not exactly the most original idea in the world.
Posted by James D  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:07 PM
I don't see it. *shrug*
Posted by lilad  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:21 PM
Aside from the fact that nobody actually knows what Jesus looks like anyway...the image of Jesus as a long haired blue eyed guy was dreamt up in renaissance Europe(which conveniently linked well with their own needs to lord it over north Africa/mid east territories)

So if the statement was "To me, it has a passing resemblance to the modern idea of the image of Christ," then yes. She would be correct in making that statement.

The statement "When the paint dried you could 'I would say' clearly see the face of Christ on the cross" is false.

But hey, if it makes you happy/makes you a buck...go for it.
Posted by David  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:41 PM
It could be two swipes, but probably is more.
The horizontal stripe in relatively uniform, as one would expect from this kind of gestural painting.
The vertical stripe is uniform also, but only the lower two thirds. The upper third has obviously been doctored.
'images' can be seen anywhere, the brain has the capacity to try to make sense, or information, out of non-sense, disorganised material in our field of vision from clouds to oil stains, tree follaige to rusted areas on metal.
Posted by pepe nero  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:45 PM
I don't see Mr JC in this picture either. However, I don't think the painting has been doctored- I think that the more detailed coloring in the top arm of the cross is because that is where the paint was first applied and then squeegied down. Then the squeegie was picked up, put on the right edge of the paper, and moved to the left to make the cross bar.

I'm a painter, and I agree that it's not a very good painter. I'm very into abstract experssionism. I love Robert Motherwell and Ellsworth Kelly- both who make rather large, bold, simple works- but this doesn't quite compare.
Posted by Katey  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:52 PM
i don't see it!!
Posted by kara  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:53 PM
I mean "not a very good painting."

Alex, have you seen any other work from this artist? And are they male or female? There seems to be some confusion about this.

ps: I paint but I don't think I'm a very good painter either. I guess that's because my taste exceedes my talents. I make a good grilled cheese sandwich, though. 😊
Posted by Katey  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  02:54 PM
I see it now!!!!!! I think he's giving you the thumbs up to go ahead and sell it.
Posted by sbnature  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  03:17 PM
*makes sacrifice to Skeletor* TO THE GLORY OF GRAY SKULL!!!!
Posted by Samson  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  03:20 PM
I'm totally seeing some Greek-ish man/goat in there.
Posted by AqueousBoy  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  03:41 PM
Jesus is one ugly sumbitch.
Posted by Matt  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  03:56 PM
I can see an image in the horizontal cross piece, near the center, but it looks more like Johnney Cash to me.
Posted by WG  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  03:59 PM
The only image that I can see is in the upper left side of the top most cross. If you look at that section as divided into 3 pieces, you can make out a half a face. Not saying that is the almighty himself calling out from the gesso, but thats what I see.
Posted by Gilvain  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  04:31 PM
I sorta see it... But why is he asking the opinion of a web site known for laughing at hoaxes? Is he hoping we'll say it's not a hoax and so get credibility? If so he really needs to check out some of the other religious posts, everyone here is pretty brutal about it. He'd have better luck getting support at a Christian message board...
Posted by Fay-Fay  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  04:41 PM
I might be able to see a hooded image of something at the top - I'd say it's The Evil Emperor, but it could be Skeletor, and hardly seems like it would be the face of Jesus.

As for the history of Jesus in art, it seems for a long time painters have just illustrated religion and mythology with whatever people and clothing looked like in the time and place the image was painted. Historically accurate artwork seems to be a relatively modern idea, and I've seen a few interesting examples of recent anachronistic religious artwork. One painter depicted Gethsemane with the Roman soldiers' uniforms replaced by Nazi uniforms.
Posted by Matt  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  04:56 PM
Looks like a sad Ronald McDonald to me!
Posted by JoBi  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  05:07 PM
I left a box of 64 crayons on a warm radiator once when I was a kid. The result was not unlike the "painting". When my Mom saw the mess she yelled out: "Jesus Christ". Mom- ahead of the crowd, as usual.
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  05:48 PM
The following website talks about why we see faces in inanimate objects

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/lenin.html
Posted by Jeff  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  05:51 PM
where's the face supposed to be?
Posted by Jacob  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  05:52 PM
quote: I make a good grilled cheese sandwich, though.

Make a grilled cheese sandwich, paint Jesus on it and get it haunted... put it on ebay.

PS. I expect a cut of your new found wealth.
Posted by Peter  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  05:53 PM
>>>I'd say it's The Evil Emperor<<<

You mean Bush?

I'm going to have to officially declare DiMarcia (Dee) Ancrum to be a lying huckster and a talentless dumbass, I'm afraid.

Thanks for playing, DiMarcia (Dee) Ancrum.
Posted by Barghest  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  08:59 PM
Imagine for a moment reading a newspaper story about a primitive tribe on some far-flung island who decided that they could "see" an image of their local god in the bark of a tree. You'd probably think something along the lines of, "Golly, those unsophisticated, non-technolgical people are amusing with their wacky superstitions!"

Um, exactly how do these "apparitions" of Jesus differ substantially from something like that? It's sad to me that some people seem to need nonsense like this to make their lives meaningful.

I used to see an image of a "ray gun" in the random pattern of the faux-marble floor in my bathroom when I was a kid. The difference is, I knew it was just a random pattern into which I was reading something and I didn't think it was a "sign" of anything. Time to grow up, people.
Posted by crankymediaguy  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  09:55 PM
In the painting you could, "I would say" clearly see an slightly sad, off colour, elongated face of our saviour, Ronald MacDonald. His jaw and mouth in the middle and his funky hairdo at the top. See?
Posted by kingjiblo  on  Mon Jan 17, 2005  at  11:43 PM
I see the face of George Bush in there. Nearly as good as Jesus, to hear some folks tell it.
Posted by cvirtue  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  08:06 AM
crankymediaguy, you're a little defensive, seeing as how no one here has marveled at what a miracle this is. These people claiming to actually be seeing Jesus everywhere are as idiotic as your pretend tribe. My grandmother's bathroom has this weird, red, velvet wallpaper. When I was little, the pattern sort of looked like an army of mice marching up the wall. If I nodded my head while blinking, it made that little army march right up into the ceiling. Did I think it was a miracle? Not in the least. And, from the looks of these posts, no one here is thinking the Jesus-seers (sp?) are any less stupid than your pretend tribe in some far-flung place.
Posted by Maegan  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  08:39 AM
Church of The Melted Crayons
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  09:36 AM
lo siento, no veo ni m
Posted by angelo  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  10:50 AM
Why is it that any time a face shows up in an object, it's either Jesus or Mary? Why can't it be Chuck from the Deli? Or Anne the neighborhood busdriver?
Posted by Silentz  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  11:24 AM
Anne Drived for Our Sins
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  11:28 AM
pepe nero is right, the top 1/3 of the vertical swipe looks completely doctored. The strokes are not consistent with the rest of the painting, and the colors are much more vibrant than the rest. Is this where the artist sees the alleged image of Jesus? If so, I would put money down that this section of the painting was Photoshopped (maybe a little usage of the smudge tool and adjustments to the color balance/saturation?) to the point where some such image could be "seen".

I can't see anything in the painting; just bad abstractionism.
Posted by Sarah  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  03:50 PM
I can see why it scared him...every time I see a cloud that looks like a sheep I'm terrified.
Posted by Gee...  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  04:35 PM
Jeez... I'm seeing a skeleton for some reason, not Christ! o_O''
Posted by Mewtaila  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  07:15 PM
Good Outer Limits alien or maybe a new Night Gallery painting.
Posted by CptKeough  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  09:28 PM
Yeah, that's from the Night Gallery "Trinity of Terror" episode starring Karen Black Mass. That's the one where the little Dashboard Jesus figure comes alive and chases her around. That one creeped me out.
Posted by Hairy Houdini  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  09:56 PM
Sarah, please the artist's description of how the painting was made, as well as my previous post. This painting has not been doctored!
Posted by Katey  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  10:21 PM
When I put the image into photoshop and do an inverse color thing followed by pumping up the blue saturation, then a 0.96 gaussian blur, washing it out by increasing the brightness and increasing the contrast just a tad, I definitely see a very clear image of Ronald Reagan fornicating with the whore of Babylon. Ol' Ron doesn't apppear to be enjoying himself very much, though.

I'd upload my enhancements to Alex, but the beer appears to be working way to well at the moment. Damn. I need a knew eyboard.
Posted by BugbearSloth  on  Tue Jan 18, 2005  at  11:41 PM
Ummm, hmmm, let's see, is it, sort of, around about...actually, nope. nothing. I see no face. Perhaps it's one of those Magic Eye paintings and you have to do wierd things with your eyes to actually see it.
Posted by Nettie  on  Wed Jan 19, 2005  at  07:02 AM
I don't see it, but what is more interesting is that anyone would paint such a travesty in the first place 😊
Posted by Oxylon  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  01:36 PM
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