The website of the Pacific Northwest Medical Journal
contains an article titled, "Curing Obesity through Sterility: California's Controversial Program Under the Microscope"
. According to this article San Francisco has a publicly funded program to allow obese men to get free vasectomies. The idea is to stop them breeding in order to eliminate the gene for fatness from the population. This cannot be real. I've never heard of such a program and can't imagine it getting funded. But if it's a hoax (which I assume it is), it's a curiously elaborate one. All the other articles on the site appear to be quite serious. Why go to so much trouble for one hoax article? When I did a search to find out who the PNMJ.org website was registered to, it listed KLAF Television in Shreveport, Louisiana as the owner. That doesn't really help explain anything.
Can a hoax *ever* be too much trouble? Honestly, Alex, I'm ashamed for you.
I suppose it would be useful for a married man, but still, their logic isn't even half-baked.
As far as obesity and genetics goes, there *is* a link, but no defining gene. There are a couple of nasty weight-gaining disorders that are genetic, but they're relatively rare.
They'd be better off doing the same thing for, say, cancer, or diabetes.
Besides, good-looking people are more likely to have sex anyway. Give it a few years and Darwin will work his mojo.
I don't think that there is a link.
I think that obesity is entirely a product of environment, and nothing more.
Yes, genetic diseases exist, but they are not spread out to anywhere near as much of the population as obesity is, so that really has no bearing on fat people blaming it on their genetics. Rare genetic diseases are therefore excluded from this.
Think I'm wrong? Prove it. I'm willing to learn.
Duh. We should just keep people from getting older to stop obesity.
Regarding the diet, I've had exactly the same as my parents until my twenties when I moved out, and we still tend to eat more or less the same things. And if anything different, my mother's diet is less consistent than ours.
I say there has to be something genetic somewhere.
So explain that for genetics.
I'm not going to start believing simply because you posted something that I can't verify at all.
I never said that I know the answer or can explain it. I also said that I was willing to believe if it was proven to me. You know, PROOF. (Sound familiar, some of you?)
Basically what I'm saying is this...
If you were to suddenly cut off the food supply of any group of people and isolate them from an easy source (ie. already packaged), within a few years, there would be no obese people around. They would not be fat, because they would have to expend their energy getting food.
What in the world is that about???? Makes no sense.
Being obese is genetic, just like cholesteral. The body makes chemicals to support life, and sometimes these chemical pumps just pump out a little more then it should. Chemicals in your body react to each other, and with certain mixing of DNA and how your parents started your life out changes these chemicals until they are basically written in stone. Some times you have to cut off certain "pumps" to change the chemical reaction for the body to maintain itself better.
Notice the Polynesian island countries. I read somewhere else, I don't remember where, that many of these countries have a huge percentage, I think 80-90%, of obese people. Something in their genetics does not agree with their new modern way of life.
Obviously genetics cannot completely be blamed, as these people have not always been obese, but convienant food and a lifestyle that does not require excercise for daily survival has taken its toll on people with slow metabolism.
On a slightly different note, the above article about the Polynesians had a very interesting theory on how people genetically inclined to be obese may have had hunter-gatherer ancestors while people with faster metabolisms could be traced back to agrarian nations in The Fertile Crescent.
I completely agree with you, Brandon, about people who blame genetics while scarfing down Twinkies. There seems to be an overwhelming loss of responsibility in America. Everything is someone or something else's fault.
The real cause of obesity in the US is fast food, not genes.
This may or may not be relevant, but Hawaiians have the highest per capita Spam consumption in the world.
That should get rid of just about every genetic problem within a generation or so.
"Levels in the UK are now approaching the levels seen in the US.
Amongst adults in Europe, obesity rates range from 10 -27 percent in men and up to 38 percent in women. The corresponding figures in the US stand at 28 percent for men and 34 percent in women.
But some countries - Finland, Germany, Greece, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Malta - have already surpassed the overweight rates in the US. "
which in turn lifted the article from the Croatian Medical Journal.
The article itself has some usages that no qualified medical researchers would use. Modern online medical journals would also tend to give a "doi" (digital object identifier) number to each article.
Also: the PNMJ appears to be buying text ads on the humor site brokennewz.com
Lot of trouble for a not very funny hoax.
That said, this is definately a hoax - and an offensive one at that. Saying that obese men "have been deemed genetically inferior to the normalized median of homo sapien development" and therefore should receive free sterilization opens the door to sterilizing people who are genetically at a higher risk of high blood pressure and diabetes (i.e. African Americans), which leads to eugenics.
(The Domino Theory lives!)
Sorry, but I can't concur. It's first-rate satire.
peoples bodys metabolic rate are different, so it may be harder for someone to lose excess body fat. putting blame on your excessive amount of fat tissue because of genetics is lame. everyone has the power to eat healthy and get off thier buttocks and burn a few calories.
its not genetic to be morbidly obese, but a learned behaviour. parents ,who happen to be fat because of poor diet and never having time to workout inbetween reality shows, soaps, drama series, give thier children pre-packaged fattening calorie dense junk food for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and then let the tv and video games be thier main activity, its going to create an adult who doesnt know how to cook and eat the proper foods, and hates to move thier body except to go to the kitchen and lift the remote control and/or game controler.
in my insentive opinion there is no reason to weigh 300+ lbs.
For my family it's depression and retinoschisis.
I'd much rather go through thyroid removal surgery and the replacement drug coupled with injecting insulin and watching my diet than having to live with what I currently do.
Not to say that it would be a walk in the park, but neither is the crap I have to deal with daily.
Lithe? Prove it...
Also have the risk of depression (although that may not hit until menopause - many years down the track). My eyesight's already up the creek with severe shortsight and astigmatism - end result, no visual aids, no can see past the end of my nose - literally!
Wow, there must be a lot of traffic today, MOH is slower than ever. Not that that's a bad thing.
We always miss the good stuff?
Rod, to make your winking smiley dude work when typing it out you must remember to insert the nose. 😉 ; then - then ) and you get 😉
It just didn't know because the only one that I have typed out until now, (sem, rt brkt) didn't need a nose.
Did ya miss the one of ME wearing a thong?
Did he look much like a bald, fanged, beer and mspaint induced version of Alex, perhaps?