Black Spider Club, Part II

Last week I linked to The Black Spider Club, which describes itself as "the worlds most exclusive club". Today I've received an email from this exclusive club:

Hello Alex
Can you please remove the 'Black Spider Club' from your website. We are not
a hoax and by listing us on your site, you have made us feature on google.
Thanking you in advance

I feel kind of special that they noticed me, them being so exclusive and all. However, I'm not sure how to react to their request. Are they serious? If they are, is there some kind of right to privacy on the internet? You can create a site, but then ask no one to link to it? Anyway, I never said they were a hoax (I just want to clarify that). I don't actually have any idea what they are.


Posted on Sun May 15, 2005


It's just a mildly clever way of creating more hype about their double-super-secret club. "If we ask people not to link to it, then EVERYONE will want to link to it!"
Posted by sombrero11  in  Cleveland, OH  on  Sun May 15, 2005  at  10:12 PM
Have them make you a member to prove that it is not a hoax.
Posted by Saint Cad  on  Sun May 15, 2005  at  11:40 PM
New Dusty girl, Rarrrrr!!
Posted by sbnature  in  sb ca  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  12:05 AM
I wouldn't sweat their "threat," Alex. It's exactly the kind of thing I would do if I had made up a "secret" club and I wanted to get additional attention for it.
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  12:26 AM
Maybe if they didn't have their domain registered with a fake address (FACT) then people wouldn't suspect it was a hoax.
Posted by Andrew Nixon  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  01:16 AM
Unlike many requests I've seen, this one is actually very polite. However, I don't think you have an ethical responsibility to remove your article. Linking to somewhere (as long as you're not misrepresenting it somehow) is an allowed behavior.
Posted by cvirtue  in  deleted  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  03:12 AM
Say that you will only remove the link if they make you "honorable member" or something and you can tell us obout their "take over the sports world" plan refering as the "bsc".
At least they were nice!
Posted by bsantos  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  03:47 AM
I wouldn't remove the link, but maybe just put a disclaimer, and change the catagory. You have it listed under "hoax websites".
Posted by NWO  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  04:54 AM
I have a very exclusive club, and nobody can join! Neener neener neener!

Posted by DaveG  in  Salt Lake City  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  08:24 AM
I don't know if any are still doing it, but many years ago I remember coming across sites that had notices on them that you could not link to them without their express permission. People I talked to at the time said they thought a site could legally stop you from linking to them, and even understood the reasoning behind it, on "association" grounds (i.e., not wanting to be seen as associated with a porn site, for example).
Considering this is supposed to be an "exclusive club," I could understand why they wouldn't want their site made public.
Posted by Frederick J. Barnett  in  Sorrento, LA  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  08:59 AM
Oh well...They asked nicely at least.
Posted by Maegan  in  Tampa, FL - USA  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  09:25 AM
yeah I doubt they are a hoax because they asked nicely, and why would they email you privatley? if they wanted attention wouldnt they post a message on here or something?
Posted by Jason  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  10:19 AM
Still, it doesn't explain why they're registered at a non-existent address. One would assume that if they weren't a hoax, they'd have a real address.
Posted by Andrew Nixon  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  10:29 AM
If they don't want you to link to them, don't link. I don't think your site needs to cover this one, anyway.
Posted by George W. Bush  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  11:37 AM
Just remember Alex, "WWSD", or "What Would Stephen Do"...That should clear the confusion.....
Posted by X  in  McKinney, TX  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  12:11 PM
you are in the entertainment biz....have your agent contact could be a clever way of passing vital info back and forth between agents, friends or enemies.
a private site plus a few code words would do it. E-mail would also serve but here there is the addition of a 'buffer' and the names of the correspondents could remain confidential.
Posted by pepe  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  01:42 PM
I say, send them an e-mail saying that as their domain is registered at a fake address, you have every reason to continue to suspect them of being a hoax.
Posted by Andrew Nixon  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  02:32 PM
Maybe they registered a fake address on purpose? so peopel cant contact them? after all its meant to be a private website!! i emailed them and they jusy emailed back saying

"We do not accept requests from general members of the public,sorry."
Posted by chalky  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  02:33 PM
Jeesh, guys. This 'Black Spider Club' sounds pretty stupid, if you ask me. Tell them to make you a member, and you'll remove the link. An eye for an eye, right?

Even better would to report on the 'Club' again, once you get in!

And, if this was a 'serious' threat, wouldn't you expect them to scream about the various legal actions that they could use on you? Of course, they would. They're 'sports' people, so they could probably afford numerous lawyers.

And this asking nicely thing is just stupid. Niceness gets you no where, kidies. :p
Posted by Al  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  03:24 PM
sorry A1 but your missing the point,in the email they didnt threaten anyone with any action,so what are you on about?
Posted by chalky  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  03:31 PM
hmmmm bit strange probally aload of crap but, the address thing doesnt mean a thing common sense tells you this is the 1st place people would go, ie the press and nutty ppl who want money so that being fake don't mean much! by seeing wot i have read unless you have proof your a celeb u aint gettin in! hack it LOL
Posted by cadam  in  leeds  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  06:54 PM
Alex, you could always take the link off, but list it as a text URL. That way visitors to MOH can still visit the site, but it's not a link so they could stay of google radar if that is what they so desire.
Posted by Razela  in  Chicago, IL  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  07:18 PM
It seems a bit kinky they would put up a "secret web site" like that. It's a bit like putting a notice on a public wall and expecting people not to read it. The people who put it up are either very dumb or they are doing some marketing thing.

Have fun
Posted by Peter Mount  in  Melbourne, Australia  on  Mon May 16, 2005  at  07:32 PM
I am sure it is a club for professional assassins. Do not mess with them!
Posted by Loxx  on  Tue May 17, 2005  at  08:15 AM
cool madProbebly loanly sad people in there rooms with blacked out windows and no social life, but what has happened to all the strange sites that everyone promised! apart from this one!! it's a change tho.
Posted by patrick  in  luton, beds  on  Tue May 17, 2005  at  01:51 PM
It's a tough call, but if I were you, I wouldn't remove the mention of the club from your site. It's bad journalism (an MoH is a kind of journalism) to let your subjects decide whether or not you mention them and/or what you can say about them.
If somethng you write is false, you should correct it or remove it. But I wouldn't remove it just because somebody (who may or may not really speak for this club that may or may not exist) says they want you to.
Posted by Big Gary in Dallas  in  Dallas, Texas, USA  on  Tue May 17, 2005  at  04:47 PM
I respect them for not being flaming asses, actually. Alot of people, for various reasons of insanity will scream about legal representation, even more so when there is no legal justification for the supposedly violated rights they claim to know. These people, very politely asked to be removed, without threats, rants or ravings. I'm actually hoping the link is removed, as it would please me to see such urbanity rewarded.
Posted by Shawn Crahan  in  Here  on  Tue May 17, 2005  at  05:55 PM
I wouldn't remove the link. I would tell them to go fuck themselves. I get requests all the time from people to remove their pics from my sight and I don't. It's just the internet anyway
Posted by Rocco  in  NYC  on  Wed May 18, 2005  at  07:37 AM
I suggest you remove the link ASAP. It obviously is a exclusive club with a cool name. I wonder who is a member? Colin Powell? Fred Savage? Ron Popiel? Jim Brown? Don't mess with the Black Spider Club. Or else.
Posted by booch  on  Wed May 18, 2005  at  10:21 AM
"[...] by listing us on your site, you have made us feature on google" -- so? People still need to search for something on Google to get hits, it's not like Google now features their site on its home page. If people search for "Black Spider Club" on Google, it means they already know that they're looking for this thing, so where's the secrecy then?
Posted by Gutza  in  Bucharest  on  Thu May 19, 2005  at  03:15 AM
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