Aicha Kid Suicide Video

image One of the many random viral videos that floats around the internet is this 'Aicha Kid Video' that shows a skinny teenager singing and dancing to the song 'Aicha'. But before you click on the link to see the video, first read about the urban legend that accompanies the video, because I think it makes the video itself much more interesting. According to the UL, there's an 'uncut' version of this video, and in this uncut version... well, this poster from ebaumsworld summarizes it better than I could:

it is hard to get the unedited one, most of them stop after he is dancing. In the full version after he dances, he gets a knife out from under his minnie mouse comforter and slits his throat. He bleeds out all over his adidas sweatshirt and falls on the floor. The camera keeps taping for another 5 minutes until the tape runs out. I think you can get the full version on Ya it is sad.

So does this uncut suicide kid video actually exist? I don't think so. At least, if it does I can't find it anywhere. Though in a variant of the UL, the non-existence of the extended video is explained away by the fact that the skinny kid's parents supposedly filed a lawsuit to get it removed from the internet. If the video does exist I'm sure that I'll hear about it eventually, but I'd bet good money on it just being a stupid rumor.


Posted on Thu Jan 20, 2005


I'm not laughing about the idea of a videotaped suicide, but rather the hilarious assertion that one could sue and have something taken off the internet -- as if the internet was a single computer sitting somewhere with Rusty the janitor overseeing it.
Posted by Gene Cowan  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  09:42 AM
Yea, once something's on the internet you can never remove it. If this video ever hit the net then it's still there. And it shouldn't be too hard to find since this kind of thing seems to be popular. If Usenet doesn't have it then I would have to say it's a hoax.
Posted by Charybdis  in  Hell  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  09:59 AM
Just my hunch, but somebody dancing around like that must feel pretty good about the thought of suicide, because he doesn't look depressed, distrought, only like he needs more practice.
Posted by sbnature  in  sb ca  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  11:25 AM
I just thought about it after watching. If he died at the end of this, who did the editing, because the effects and the multiple scenes needed to be edited together. I don't think any friends or parents would work on a suicide music video.
Posted by sbnature  in  sb ca  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  11:34 AM
Well, maybe it was in the suicide note...
or maybe after getting over the horror and sadness when his parents burst into his room and saw his lifeless body they thought "Hey, wouldn't it be nifty if we edited his video tape, added some cool digital lettering and posted it on the internet?"
Posted by brian  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  12:33 PM
Also, he looks like he's in a little kid's room. Mickey sheets, stuffed animals in the corner.
Posted by Maegan  in  Tampa, FL - USA  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  03:14 PM
>> Yea, once something's on the internet you can never remove it.

As many people who have sent nude pictures could attest.
Posted by Bill B.  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  04:19 PM
This is a variant of the old "snuff film" legend (which goes back at least to the early 1970s, when I first heard of it). According to this tale, there is a clandestine industry of making pornographic movies (or videos, DVDs, etc.) in which the subjects are killed, for real, on camera. These flicks are then retailed for high prices to wealthy people with, shall we say, rather extreme tastes in entertainment.
However, nobody has ever come up with any evidence that I'm aware of that such movies exist, or have ever existed. There may have been a few people who acidentally died on movie sets or the like, and then footage somehow leaked out, and of course there are many films of simulated deaths, but a true snuff film would have to include the filmmakers deliberately instigating the real killing of a person during the course of one of the scenes, preferably in a manner calculated to heighten the sadomasochistic excitement of it all.
None of the people I've spoken with who believe that such movies exist has been able to give me a verifiable example of one.
Posted by Big Gary C  in  Dallas, Texas  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  08:39 PM
It seems that there should be a lot of suicide videos on the World Wide Web by now, since there are still a good many people killing themselves every year, and digital cameras, webcams, etc. are now so commonplace that some of the suicidists (suiciders?) must be suitably equipped to document and broadcast their own demise.
Yet all the reports of such spectacles I've heard of so far seem to be hoaxes.
Could it be that society has not yet become totally depraved?
... No, that couldn't be it. There must be some other explanation.
Posted by Big Gary C  in  Dallas, Texas  on  Thu Jan 20, 2005  at  08:48 PM
Big Gary:

There's at least one floating around that Snopes has verified. You can find the clip here. The clip does take a while to load, and the whole thing is remarkably low key and not terribly "dramatic", hence it's lack of wide appeal, perhaps. I think you can reasonably assume that society finds genuine suicide footage to be somewhat disappointing, and would much prefer Hollywoodised versions.
Posted by Nightbringer  in  Perth, Western Australia  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  01:55 AM
The famous footage of R. Bud Dwyer also counts.

Should I note here that a suicide video is still not the same thing as a snuff film?

Anyway, the idea of a kid that young cheerfully and successfully slitting his own throat deeply enough to kill himself on the first try is pretty ludicrous. It's your classic urban legend--a notion so outrageous and lurid you can practically hear the middle-schoolers whispering it to each other in your head. The fact that it makes no sense to append the story to a dancing dork video just adds to the urban legend authenticity.

It would make just as much sense to say the Star Wars Lightsaber Dance kid slit his throat the moment the camera was over.
Posted by Barghest  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  04:13 AM
Dammit. 'stopped rolling', not 'was over'.

"Two hundred thousands viruses detected? Computer OVER?!"
Posted by Barghest  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  04:14 AM
Congratulations, Barghest. You've just created a new urban legend.

(psst... did you hear that one about the Star Wars Kid? He, like, slit his throat after he did the lightsaber dance)
Posted by The Curator  in  San Diego  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  10:11 AM
Good God! I think I've found the version in which the kid dies. But it's not a knife that kills him. Check this out:

The page that linked to this video, also reports that the dancing kid has his own website:
Posted by The Curator  in  San Diego  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  10:21 AM
Is that the kid from Gummo????
Posted by Katey  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  07:08 PM
Ah, the old "snuff" films. By the story, made in Mexico and smuggled accross to sell for huge profits. I never heard it explained how the producers could keep the crew silent wihtout killing them also. Big Gary C, do you remember the George C. Scott film about a father trying to find his daughter before she ended up in one of those? Classic Hollywood. Real suicide is probably so undramatic that no one would ever watch. Although maybe not, the murder videos of the hostages in Iraq have a wide audience from what I've heard. Maybe there would be a market for "snuff" video and violent suicide videos. Human nature is pretty constant throughout the world, maybe it would appeal to people's dark side.
Posted by Christopher Cole  in  Tucson, AZ  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  10:35 PM
Even if someone actually made a real snuff film, who would believe it? It's not worth the trouble, everyone would think it was a hoax anyway. Might as well just make a great fake.
There was a really well done one of a woman being forced to shoot herself in the head. I saw it on It was determined to be a fake, but damn it looked real. Very disturbing. Has anyone seen that one?
What movie was that where a woman suffocated herself on camera and her friends helped her film it and then were investigated for murder? I can't think of it. It wasn't until they watched the whole film that they realized she had killed herself. I think she was terminally ill. Damn it I hate when I can remember the name of a movie. Someone help me. It's going to drive me crazy! grrr
Posted by Glamcat  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  10:54 PM
I that kid really singing or is this a song by someone else? Does anyone know this song? I've never heard it before. It sounds like it could be him singing because it's not very good. (Simon Cowell would tear him to pieces! LOL)Maybe he wrote it too. His website seems to be in German, I think?
He probably created this whole UL himself. How else would he get his 15 minutes of fame.
If he really killed himself, why would he have his own website? I tried to get into it but you need a user name and password. F*#~ that.
Posted by Glamcat  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  11:00 PM
The video is an UL, for sure...
Posted by FatRat  in  mexico  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  11:03 PM
I like the ending in the link that Alex posted from
Very funny! Thanks for finding that.
Posted by Glamcat  on  Fri Jan 21, 2005  at  11:05 PM
Oh man, i just read thru all the posts on the ebaums site. it gets really good around page 11 or 12. at 200 posts Aicha comes to kill us.
Posted by Eric  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  01:15 AM

i forgot to bookmark it, but at some point, the main guy who claims that Aicha is dead admits its all a joke. just thought i'd clear that up
Posted by Eric  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  01:39 AM
Wasn't the movie "8 MM" about a snuff film industry or something?
Posted by Maegan  in  Tampa, FL - USA  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  10:42 AM
Glamcat, the movie you are thinking of is The Life of David Gale. It starred Kevin Spacey, Kate Winslot, and Laura Linney(played the lady that killed herself). Now you won't have to go crazy.
Posted by Sherrie  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  10:48 AM
Sherrie, Thank you! You're right. I feel so much better now. grin
Posted by Glamcat  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  12:39 PM
8mm was another good movie that dealt with this topic. You're right Maegan.
Posted by Glamcat  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  12:40 PM
Hey... The Aicha kid os copying a song done by a Danish group called Outlandish...
just a little info.. And I hear from all of my Swedish friends that yes, it is true.... very sad
Posted by Jake Russell  in  Halifax, Canada  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  04:02 PM
Eric, what is the "ebaums site"?
Posted by Glamcat  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  04:40 PM
I think 8mm was the George C. Scott film I was thinking of, I never saw it just the trailers and some of the comments about it on the various discussion shows. The talk was always that it was a good film, but I can't remember if anyone ever came out with solid evidence that "snuff" films really existed or were just a legend. I also remember hearing that real porno actresses were used in the film, however that might be just another legend.
Posted by Christopher Cole  in  Tucson, AZ  on  Sun Jan 23, 2005  at  10:06 PM

The George C. Scott movie was called 'Hardcore' and came out in 1979. '8mm' was a Nicholas Cage movie that came out in 1999.

In 'Hardcore', Scott's character's daughter runs away from home, and he hires a private eye, and finds out she's fallen in with South American thugs who make snuff films, and he has to rescue her from them. '8mm' is about a widow who finds a snuff film in her dead husband's effects and hires Cage to investigate and see if it's real.

I've seen 'Hardcore' on cable (could it have been TBS?). Cheesy, but entertaining, in a Health Class Movie sort of way.

I've also seen plenty of real death footage from series like 'Traces of Death', but again, that's stuff that more or less accidentally got filmed (paramedic footage, news footage, stuff like that). It's still not technically a 'snuff film' according to the urban legend, since no one was being killed specifically to make a movie.

And really, if you were a producer, why would you bother murdering someone for your movie when you could just buy a bunch of censored morgue, amateur, news, and police footage of violent acts, string them together, sell the videos for $40 a piece on websites like, and avoid being charged with a crime?
Posted by Barghest  on  Tue Jan 25, 2005  at  01:49 AM
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