90 Day Jane

Jane has declared that in ninety days she's going to kill herself, and she's keeping a daily blog to share her experiences during her final months. She writes:

I am going to kill myself in 90 days. What else should i say? This blog is not a cry for help or even to get attention. It's simply a public record of my last 90 days in existence. I'm not depressed and nothing extremely horrible has lead me to this decision. But, does it really have to? I mean, as an atheist I feel life has no greater purpose.

As of today, February 11, she has 84 days left.

I can't predict the future, so I can't say with certainty whether Jane will or will not kill herself at the appointed time, but my hunch is that her blog is complete b.s. There are a couple of reasons for suspecting this. First of all, this is not the first suicide blog to have appeared on the internet, and they invariably end up being fake. Remember the "Countdown to Oblivion" blog, in which Jerry Romero declared he was going to kill himself on January 13th, 2005? When the date arrived, he posted a single-word message for all his readers: PWNED.

Second, her comment that "as an atheist I feel life has no greater purpose" strikes me as phony. It sounds like what a religious person imagines that an atheist would say. Most atheists, I think, would say that they don't need a deity to have a fulfilling, meaningful existence... thank you, very much. Our relationships with other people and what we do with our life is what gives it meaning.

In fact, I suspect that religious people are far more likely to commit suicide, since they view death as not being final. They might imagine killing themselves as a way to start over, either through reincarnation or by becoming a spirit. For instance, you don't often hear of atheist suicide bombers.

In this vein, there have been recorded cases of people who have committed suicide as an experiment, in the belief that they would be able to find out what life after death was like, and find a way to communicate that knowledge back to the living. For instance, the Jan 24, 1927 issue of the Chicago Tribune records the case of W. Cassels Noe, a medical student at the University of Wisconsin, who "shot and killed himself today, leaving a note saying he wanted to learn what was beyond the grave. The note, addressed to a Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity brother, promised him that Noe would communicate with him from the beyond as soon as possible and tell what death is and what it brings."

There's no evidence that Noe ever found a way to send his friend a message.

Update: I should revise what I said above. Having thought about it for a few minutes, I don't actually think that a person's religious beliefs (or lack of them) has any predictive value of whether that person is likely to take their own life. So I'll take back that line about religious people being more likely to commit suicide. It was a knee-jerk response to "Jane's" suggestion that she might as well commit suicide since she's an atheist. I'll simply point out that, just as there are certainly depressed people who commit suicide and declare that they don't believe in God, there are also plenty of people who kill themselves because they think they're going on to some kind of afterlife. The Heaven's Gate cult here in San Diego was one of the most famous examples of that here in America.


Posted on Mon Feb 11, 2008


David B, no, I disagree that starting from the same position and using impecable logic will result in the same conclusion. Not necessarily even close. I have seen people take both sides of an argument, at different times, and logically argue each side with no flaw in their logic. I first mentioned the idea of an overly logical person becasue I have seen that sort of person and can see where they might make such an argument about atheists. The incident I refer to took place in 1973/74. I can remember the incident but there is no way that I could remember the details of the discussions that happened on this subject, or any of the other subjects where I experienced the person's overly logical way of thinking. If I were the sort of person he was I probably could come up with a logic chain similar to his, the chain that he used to reach his conclusion to become a Christian. I am not a very logical person in that respect. I am too emotional and prone to making leaps to reach a conclusion. And this is even though, as an electronics technician, I was trained to think in a logical manner - and expected to perform my maintenance duties in such a manner.
Posted by Christopher Cole  on  Wed Feb 13, 2008  at  07:18 PM
If you hate 90 Day Jane, you'll love this:

Posted by Peanut  on  Wed Feb 13, 2008  at  07:34 PM
I'm not religious, but I do know studies show that atheists are not as happy as people that do believe in a higher power. Your, "It sounds like what a religious person imagines that an atheist would say" truly shows what an uneducated simp you are.
Posted by urclueless  on  Wed Feb 13, 2008  at  11:58 PM
Jane has announced in the news her su
Posted by Arinka Linders  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  02:25 AM

Perhaps people are atheists because they're unhappy or unsatisfied with religion.

Actually, that would be an interesting survey: of the people who convert, how many were unhappy before meeting church members?

How many would describe themselves as lonely?

How many close friends did they have, and what did they do with those friends?

How many of these people have had episodes of depression?

And of atheists, how many have had depressive cycles?

How many were socially isolated? If so, were they unhappy?

Who were their associates at the time if/when they decided to stop believing?
Posted by tess  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  05:52 AM
>>I'm not religious, but I do know studies show that atheists are not as happy as people that do believe in a higher power. <<

Isn't that pretty much the same as saying, "Ignorance is bliss" ?

Most of the atheists I know personally (including myself) are people that think really seriously about things, and I would guess that anyone that spends a lot of serious thought on anything (whether they be religious or not) is likely not as "happy" as people that blindly go through life expecting someone or something else to take care of things for them. "Happiness" isn't the only important thing in life, and not being happy is NOT the same thing as being depressed.

I think many people that turn to religion because they feel empty inside and they are looking for something to fill up that emptiness. I, however, don't feel empty inside, so I don't feel any need for religion.

(And no, I'm not lonely OR socially isolated, thank you very much! I'm mildly offended (but also amused) that people might make that assumption about me just because I don't attend church.)
Posted by Terran  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  06:22 AM
Come on people, don't get disheartened. If we try and make her change her mind -- maybe, just maybe she'll restart the countdown:


Posted by anon  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  09:19 AM
anon in UK - I like your style.
Posted by Terran  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  09:31 AM
When somebody wants to commit suicide, they just do it. They don't go announcing to the world. They just take their lives in a snap.

They leave notes behind, but they are found after the suicide.
Posted by KSho  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  11:26 AM
Chris T. is right. The post from "papiros 3" contins a destructive bad link. Alex, I'd remove that post if I were you.
Posted by Big Gary  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  12:06 PM
"90 day PBJ" is great. More sincere, if not more interesting, than "90 Day Jane."
I wonder if a future post will show a cheesecake video of the sandwich trying on dresses?
Posted by Big Gary  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  12:20 PM
Well the only thing I
Posted by athenea  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  02:18 PM
thats not true. i am an atheist and i had been extremely depressed when i first started myabandoning my christian uprbringings.
Posted by Travis  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  03:51 PM
The point I was trying to make was that people who abandon their faith or find one may be prone to depression, not that ultimately atheists or religious people are by and large disproportionately depressed or not. Well, except perhaps new converts or those who've left their faith.


I'm guessing you've never had a severe depressive episode, or really known anyone who has.
Posted by tess  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  04:25 PM
As an athiest, the line about "no other purpose" struck me as odd. It doesn't seem like something an athiest would say. Which makes me feel the blog might be an anti-athiest statement... somehow connecting that athiestism leads to suicide?
Posted by Jackie  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  04:50 PM
I didn't realize the blog had been removed. So it was just an "art" project? I guess I can forget my previous accusation.
Posted by Jackie  on  Thu Feb 14, 2008  at  04:56 PM
What a shame, let's get her back on the bandwagon:

Posted by Anon  on  Fri Feb 15, 2008  at  06:51 AM
Dear Jane,

This is coming from someone who has tried to commit suicide several times and who has watched my causin blow his head off.

I am not going to come at you all frilly like, I am going to come at you real.....I have no idea why you want to kill yourself, but if you are, why wait 90 days? Why dont you just film yourself doing it, and have someone put it up on u-tube so we can all enjoy watching you take a straight line to hell. Get ready to be butt raped by deamons on a daily basis and burning for eternity.
You are a selfish, manipulative, striving for attention moron. At least be creative like Cobaine and blow your freakin head off. But hey, if you need any ideas I could give you some....how about dousing yourself in blood and jump in shark infested waters or better yet....why not jump off a overpass and let a semi splatter you all over the freeway! Any way you decide to do it, just do it already.........
Posted by Sebastian Boudreaux  on  Fri Feb 15, 2008  at  06:14 PM
AKA 90 day jane,

Considering all the effort you have put into this site, I have decided that I will kill myself in 60 days, but only I am going to film it, and they will make a movie of it, and I will be the one getting recognition not you!
I am sorry you didnt have a painful life and that you have no real excuce, but I have numerous. I want to thank you for giving me the reassurance that this is truely the only answer, and if this is some kind of movie or promotion, I guess when my family sues your ass off, you may realize the true gratitude of what you have done.

Your in Death,

60 day lacy

P.S. The suicidle hotlines also encouraged me with my eternal wishes.
Posted by 60 day lacy  on  Fri Feb 15, 2008  at  06:21 PM
The site is DOWN! Apparently someone at Blog saw it and dropped it. (Or did the anonymous blogger decide to stop transmitting.) For all I know, someone she knew saw the page and dragged her kicking and screaming to an in-patient treatment center of their choice!)

Here's hoping!

Posted by daveprime  on  Sun Feb 17, 2008  at  12:20 PM
No such luck daveprime....she is on facebook, myspace, bebo and a few others claiming it was "an art project".....
Posted by patrick  on  Mon Feb 18, 2008  at  07:32 AM
you go girl!
Posted by sammiewammie  on  Tue Feb 19, 2008  at  03:11 PM
Will it be like this?
Posted by Shlitzie  on  Wed Feb 20, 2008  at  10:16 PM
Blog is no longer there.
Go figure..
Posted by Krid  on  Sun Mar 02, 2008  at  06:17 PM
I'm almost surprised she's not telling people that they've to get mad! they've got to go to the windows and scream, "I'm mad as hell, and i'm not going to take it anymore"

what an idiot
Posted by Carolyn  on  Wed May 07, 2008  at  12:23 PM
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