AtomChip Notebook Computer

Lol.. I'll get me coat.

Just seen the link to the t-shirt... 😉

"you will find a German University where there is a team who has developed such a chip. It hardly suprises me that this could indeed be real.

http://pi1.physi.uni-heidelberg.de/physi/atph/index.php"

Do the math ppl. If he filed his hardware patent in '96, which included the manufacturing process that's plenty of time for corporate and government research labs to use his concepts and ideas for their own devlopment. I suspect he's been forced into production to capitalize on his inventions before the labs send their -slightly different- developments to the people paying their bills.

He also deserves a programming award if he could get a symetric multi-proceess OS to run on an asymetric processing CPU. Must be ported all to H in which case the benchmark is probably bogus since it represents mutiple symetric-threaded processes. I don't think there's any benchmark or program coded for more than 4 threads. But there are ways to get around that....

Get real people.

Do you really think that if they actually developped this kind of technology their first application would be laptops???

Selling them a few thousand dollars to the average Joe???

Showing it at a comsumer trade show???

This would go strait into server class machines and sold gazillions of dollars to big corporation ready to pay the price.

It would take a few years before it hits consumer markets.

;) i don't believe it

what are you guys afriad of.
what was the fastest cpu in 1996.
what is the fastest cpu today.
how meny years ago did they say that burning resistors into gold would hit a dead end.
do you think when they found that out they would just stick to it, and barry there heads in the sand. no!
to all those people saying how can it run windows.
how does mac computers play games and run using windows programs, its called virtual pc. these guys are computer engineers and programers. and yes they do need a clean room. what gets in the way of the light screws up there resurch (eg. dust). does anyone know there investor list there tech doners, anything about them. yes the tech they are using is limited by the old tech they are using but is it not a step in the right direction.
the bench mark is the whole system running and using old tech there is huge bottle necks everywhere.
if we as people can imagine it we can make it happen, just think 100 years ago what kind of tech did we have. 50 years ago what kind of tech did we have.

(the greats. einstien, hutchenson, newton, divinchy, tesla, vern. if you can think of it so shall it be.)

im not say ney or yeh to this company i only can hope its true.

sorry if im not the best speller.

its fake fake fake!!!
you've been totally punk'd !!

i could do better mock ups of that stuff in paintshop pro. I love the old SIMM chip with the 1TB sticker... funny guys.

the domain registration should be convincing enough for people who are still gullible enough to lap this stuff up.

If it is fake it certainly is a well-thought out, elaborate and long-standing hoax.

I suggest that you forget the quality of the website and the english. Lack of facility in language is not uncommon among first generation emigrant scientists that I have known.

It is wise to reserve judgement until the actual demonstration of the technology. However, the recent news regarding the possible falsification of data published in Science regarding a stem cell breakthrough by a team of scientists in Korea gives one pause for thought.

Nevertheless, it is an interesting exercise to find out how much hard information and science can be found on this subject.

Are the patents real? Yes.
Are they from 1996? Yes. (Submission date)
Is the science plausible? I am not an expert, but here are some clues ...

1) There is a consortium of German Universities working on atom chips. If you download and compare their recent (2002) review paper to Dr. Gendlin's patent description, you may be surprised to find out that Dr. Gendlin's patent describes some very similar fundamental concepts.

http://pi1.physi.uni-heidelberg.de/physi/atph/index.php,
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5673220.html

2) If you do a google search for Ben Aryeh (listed as one of the principle officers in Dr. Gendlin's company, you will find links to a published physicist with the last name Ben-Aryeh, who publishes in the area of quantum and photon physics.

There seems to be a smoking gun here, but no body. I can't wait to see what happens after the January CES. We'll have a body then. I hope someone has a chance to examine it thoroughly.

Yo, Ces is on now:

This is the contact details and booth number:

http://cesweb.org/attendees/directory/rd_exhibitor_details.asp?exhibid=7059&

Company Booth(s):
Booth NumberShow Location
36604South Hall

Can somebody wonder over there and see.

Anyone has any info on this... Atom Chipy thingie? Any reports from CES? Any news in the Web?

I'm still looking for reports from CES about this Atom Chip, I've been 50/50 about this, so was really hoping for some CES reports to emerge about Shimon and his company.

If anybody has a friend that is going, ring them on their mobile, and ask them to wonder over and check it out. If it aren't there, ask CES administration why this firm on their site hasn't shown.

Gizmodo says it's real. (Well, really THERE at least.) No hands-on test yet.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ces/live-from-ces-quantum-disk-from-atom-chip-corp-147086.php

Gizmodo has a short thingy on this Quantum Thingy.

http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/ces/live-from-ces-quantum-disk-from-atom-chip-corp-147086.php

Hopefully they'll have more...

im hooked

i think its real

check this out
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EKF/is_n2191_v43/ai_19951759

a vid:
http://www.compu-technics.com/images/solar memory.WMV

yeahhh, that last vid there pretty much clinches it as a hoax, reallly fake. I mean like sad fake. like I could have done better on my machine in about 10 mins.

I find this website sometimes ago and i was not sure about fake or not.
But now, since i read the latest news on Gizmodo and that i watched the video i'm 100% sure it's fake.
So fun they are taking picture of something without lens...
Come on, it's just a cmos or lcd chip on a solar panel, 2 small red dots on it and a laser...
AND a small paper.
So what you see at the end is no more than a reflexion of the same stupid paper... :-D
Anyway, we will see some interresting stuffs coming in a near future, like puRAM or IRam drives.

Best regards,

Red

with that and google with their cheap world computer idea.
i heard gates talking about how it would help develope the world more if everyone was connected

google is takeing over


http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/06/live-coverage-of-the-google-keynote/#comments

regardless is the adam a hoax or not

any updates on the CES2006!? its best if somebody from the trade fair can tell us if they see the booth and the item.

everyone knows it's fake. The company is just trying to get press and buzz.

Yeah watch the Video of the "Solar power chip" on the website, and then try to argue the validity of this company. Its sad to think how many people will be suckered by this guy.

Oh this is too funny...

I checked the whois of his site as and realised that I live a couple blocks away from this freak...... Nice to see someone from my neighbourhood making a name for themself........

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... too funny......

Good, your the man, go around there and check him out, maybe he has a working prototype in his garage.

Maybe we should ring him, and tell him we are sending around an Ass-Nugget for him.

Seriously, things are a lot easier to errantly dismiss than to prove. A bad demo is somebody that hasn't spent the time, or simply somebody that spent it on something better. Hold it another saying coming, of yeah, now maybe I should actually watch the demo.

Oh yeah, I could spend oodles of pages discussing this one as a technical person. There is something that can produce that effect, firstly it would either have to gather photons from the direction of the text recorded, if not from all directions, and replay them back in another mirrored angle. Possible. But then it records a sequence of them over time, so every point has a depth of temporal memory, still possible, but that would be a feat and a half. But what gives the plot away as extremely poor presentation, or a hoax, is that when the supposed image turns off, there is cut frame when it goes to grey, and another when it goes to black. The camera has moved in between the frames, and it is being passed off as continuous footage. It is either very bad presentation to make it look neater (and people do do some odd things) or just a hoax.

Oh, yeah, this demo is so bad it is hard to believe it is a hoax 😉

Firstly, as suspected last time, the text is moved along and down to centre it properly, and at the end it is moved faster. But on the "solar chip" replay of it, it is already centred and moves much more smoothly to the end. In video production it is common to shoot each a sequence/part multiple times, and put the best shoot of each part together to form a new sequence, and even jump cut borings bits. This is very rough. But I must admire the solar chip's physics bending movements on the space test flight part of the demo 😉

Hi friends,

Did you see (that on the hoax video) during input, the card is shifted about 2 inches vertically during recording (just before the text potion of the sign)? Stangely enough, this does not show up during "playback". Well, maybe it is a quantum thing, I don't know 😊

Is there any sort of proof of operation required to present at CES? Did this guy have to establish that his computer did what he says before being allowed to get a booth?

More, importantly, did he show it at the booth, like they said? I thought they were supposed to release this at some reasonably normal price, doesn't look like it.

The laptops were at CES. They were locked in a display case so no one could use them and see if they were real.

Is pretty lame all this.There is people who is developing Real innovations and want a place in the CES and these people get a place in the CES with big jokes,I wonder if at least have some proof.
I have a friend who works in nanotechnology and is possible,HP is currently working in a prototype with molecular switches.
This could be possible but I bet is an hoak as is not a big Corporation like HP.
Also is pretty lame how the media follow all these crap without any proof.

I'm betting the real thing here is to make a flurry of patents, create some vapour-ware that seems to work, let someone else ACTUALLY develop the technology, and then sue that company for patent infringement.

Hoax with a capital H.
Nothing more going on here then patenting an idea and waiting to get bought out.
The web site is half arsed, the corporate officers seem to be all "family" with mickey mouse email accounts (4 all go to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) one to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)), the pages with pictures are cobbled together pieces of old hardware. Laptop use, great way to hide what you are up to, it's enclosed, with no sight of the guts. How about a nice plastic case with no HD and this "NEW" tech hooked up and running. The system info, another hack.

This whole set-up smells like a prank produced by a danish performing artist (whose name I forgot).
Some time ago he went with a cravan and some (mostly elder) people from Danmark to the US to support Bush in the elections (He DIDN`T, it was art...)(check it here:www.danesforbush.org).
Then he pulled something off that looks quite simmilar to the Atom-thingie. He invented a riffle that (presumaly) could tag people with tracer-bugs without them noticing. He got so far as to be invited to a international Police supplier convention in (get this!) CHINA!
This guy really went there with a nonexisting invention, just with some nice drawings aso!
Best part: The chinese were so interested in his divice (they wanted to order!)that he got cold feed and left the country some days before the convention ended. If I remember it correctly he really holds a patent for that riffle and was quite scared about the offers big manufacturers were giving... (check it here:www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/index.htm)
I couldn`t find any home adress for the Atom Company, but if it`s the same as the ones for the two links above (namely:Svinget 2, suite 2, second floor on the left,DK-2300 Copenhagen S), it`s the same guy...

BTW: Why does Mr. Shimon Gendlin won an "Golden Oscar" as seen under the European(!) Awards section? For best performance in a Prank???

Why don't you people learn to type and speak enlglish before you try to post something that is supposed to sound halfway intelligent. How many of you people have a PhD in physics? How many have spent time studying quantum mechanics? In all likelyhood, none. How can you dismiss something that you know nothing about?

Hey rectifyer,
ever considered that not everyone here has the advantage of having english as their native language ?
About dismissing things we no nothing about: well, maybe you didn`t recognice that museumofhoaxes is a side where you can discuss whether certain things are or are not hoaxes.
But I guess you know better then the rest of us, don`t you?

rectifyer said:

"How many have spent time studying quantum mechanics? In all likelyhood, none. How can you dismiss something that you know nothing about?"

OK, so have YOU studied quantum mechanics? If yes, please explain this AtomChip to us in layman's terms. If not, how can you simply accept the claims made for the AtomChip without being able to understand them?

cia senos naujienos

I had a play with a similar idea a few years ago, I used a semiconductor laser, a focusing lenses, a roll of 35mm film and a prism. I wasn't trying to achieve what is reported here, I was trying to see if it was possible to record a set of images on the film in a kind of microdot format. I had a little bit of success too, except that the images recorded were very poor or non existent, probably due to the fineness of the film used (or lack of it) and it could also have something to do with the colour of the laser light and the films sensitivity to it, the point is, I managed to get something on the film with just a few odds and ends I had kicking around in my shed, even though my developing skills are a bit shaky. After a few experiments, I gave up on the idea, until my brother asked if I could record data on the film. I gave it a try and had quite a bit of success, what I couldn't figure out was what use it would be, we already had cd's and DVD's, so what use was this? What this new technology suggest to me is a method of recording holographic representations of data in a 3d substrate using micro lenses to guide the laser beams to the correct location (memory address). This is not unlike an article I read many years ago about cube crystal memory, the idea was very similar, only on a larger scale (I think we were using 286's then, long time ago) the problem they had was getting the device to keep the stored data for a useable period, it used a crystal structure which altered when a certain frequency of laser was used, two beams would cross at some point within the crystal and change the structure slightly, when you wanted to read the data, another set of beams of a different frequency were used, this time the structure of the crystal would cause an interference pattern in the beams wich could the be detected using sensors and thus the data could be read, the problem was that the crystal structure would always try and return to its natural state, a so lose the data. I'm not saying this new technology isn't a fake, anybody with a bit of programming skill could fake the laptop system info, and even have the figure change when a program was run or the mouse was moved. All I am saying is that research into this technology could have and should have been taken on by one of the big corporations years ago. Sorry to ramble on. The end.

Hiya people,

Firstly, none of the technology used in these devices is 'revolutionary' at least in the theory side. There have been 'Quantum' computers made before (see http://domino.watson.ibm.com/comm/pr.nsf/pages/news.20011219_quantum.html)
and, the really scary bit, they work!

Secondly, there's nothing wrong with using commodity electronics to prototype new designs. I assume that when the first CD-ROM drive was prototyped, it did not have a play button, touch sensitive loading or an SPDIF out option, but all of these can be found on many CD-ROMS in the market today. If AtomChip want to use an optical connector from Radio Shack to use in it's prototypes, it's only doing so because they're easily available in small quantities (no thousand unit orders needed) and provide another level of confidence in the design because a lot of the components are already tried and tested.

Just because the readers on this site can't buy it off the shelf, they assume it doesn't exist. Intel were demonstrating 4GHz processors about 4 or 5 years ago and they still aren't on the market (they probably never will be in the form that was demonstrated).

Don't go writing this off as a hoax just yet. The guy in charge of research at AtomChip has some pretty astounding qualifications. When Albert Fert and Peter Grunberg discovered Giant MagnetoResistance, I would say lots of people denied their claims were true. They have since won a Nobel prize for said discovery, and for it's effects on the data storage industry (indirectly, all of us)

Thanks,

P.S. Please don't all flame me at once 😉

On an aside, my favourite quote relating to this field is from Richard Feynman, who said "Anybody who says they understand quantum physics is either lying or crazy."

I think that about sums it up...

To Climber and all of you who go with the principle that anything can be true unless proven otherwise...it is actually the other way around that is the only sensible way to assume in real world. Otherwise we can all start spending a fortune on "ethereal energy crystals" and related new-age crap.

So yeah, go invest in this bogus company if their quantum mumbo-jumbo and poorly photoshopped pictures are good enough for you (ever wondered why they put so much emphasis on the fact that every device has an indicator of free storage space? - simple, it's easy to 'shop). But me, I'll rather wait to see it actually work. Jugding by the fact that they're telling basically the same thing for three years now, I think it's very safe to assume it's a hoax. I wonder how many of the positive comments here come from the people employed at the "Atom Chip Corporation"...

I don't know why this shouldn't be true, they are currently focussing on solar memory, so what was mentioned before happened: They focussed on industry because they got the money for this big stuff.

I'll wait and see if there will be any of those processors or memory modules in approx. 5
2-3 years or so. I don't think we're going to see them any earlier and by then Sandisk will have gotten their memory density of 139 GB/cm

Its good chip!

If you want to purchase the (quantum optic) Atom Chip Computer from Atom Chip Corporation in Westbury NY, you can write to them and ask for one. They will reply that they only sell their Atom Chip Computers to US Army for $20,000 each. So, although it may be a real device as claimed, developed in work at Kappa Numerics in Israel and at Intel also, possibly, and patented by Dr. Shimon Gendlin, possibly associated with a company called CompuTechnics, the computer is not available to the general consumer yet; at least, that is the situation I found, over the past few years. Also, as far as I know, the new 2008 Intel "Atom" computer is not the same at all, certainly has nothing to do with "quantum optic" computer technology; it may be Intel's attempt to dominate and subvert the new market that is being created for the Atom Chip Corporation's computer, under the patent ownership of Dr. Shimon Gendlin. Patent rights are established by Dr. Gendlin I believe, but from what I have read also, the Kappa Numerics group in Israel seems to claim they have some prior rights to the patented invention developed under their auspices. Not sure if Kappa Numerics is still in existence, but we know Intel still is; and certainly will not give up without a fight if Dr. Gendlin's computer is as powerful and dependable as claimed at CES and in their website.

A post I saw on this thread made me laugh so hard. Seeing as it's the year 2009 now, and it was posted back in 2006, I guess I can't really blame. Technology has increased exponentially. And the statement they made was "1tb for a hard drive? i would kill for that!" or something along those lines. I laughed so hard, thinking about the fact that my PS3 is the proud new owner of a after-market installed 500 gb hard drive, which is 2.3 inch big. If it could hold a bigger hard drive (as far as space goes) it would of been in the realm of 1 tb+ very easy. Kinda funny.

A recent visit on their website shows that 1: it has been rebuilt from scratch 2: they now work ONLY with military and space industry.
They removed almost all the technical details on their technology from the site and obviously, the site has been made by pros.
Login pages everywhere.
Looks like their claims were actually true and the millitary doesn't want it to be released for civilian use.
If this is the case, it means that any conventionnal encryption technology is now obsolete. (128 or 256 bits, AES, Swordfish or SSL for instance) With the chips they were displaying before they "disapear" from civilian eyes, this company can actually test every possible keys at once, no matter how long it is.

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It is fake. And "Dr" Glendin - never attended to any colegge, He served 10 years in Soviet jail for the same bogus memory. Ask him what Univercity or college he gradueted and sent request to the Univercity or college to get conformation - you will be surprised. Shimon is exraordinary liar

Igor, I'm sorry, but I really have a hard time taking statements seriously when their author attempts to degrade someone's intelligence, yet is unable to correctly use simple grammar and is unable to spell "university", "graduated", and/or "confirmation" - I haven't seen/heard anything to discredit Atom Chip in any way.

Despite his spelling, Igor is right. "Dr" Gendlin did exactly the same thing back in the 60s in Soviet Russia. He faked college and phd diplomas and did not let anyone look at what's inside his secret black box, touted to be the best ferrite RAM device years ahead of everyone else. Eventually (as he was trying to work on 3 jobs which was illegal in SU) he was caught and spent 10 years in jail. He was convicted one more time in the 80s and then moved to Israel and US. It's pretty ironic that people with his background get away with this so easily. Shimon (Semen) really is a genius, but his talents are more psychological than technical.