AtomChip Notebook Computer

image You may never have heard of the Atom Chip Corporation before, but you will if they've really built what they claim to have built--a notebook computer that boasts a 6.8GHZ CPU and 2TB of non-volatile Quantum Storage (in place of a hard disk). For those who aren't tech savvy, a notebook computer like this would be years ahead of anything else on the market. The company says that it will present this miracle technology to the world during an upcoming Consumer Electronics Show. However, the pictures it has on its website look strangely amateurish, like pieces of computer hardware glued together. The liberal use of the word "quantum" in its description is also a clue that this thing is totally bogus. The Register states that it's a "trifle sceptical" of the company's claims.

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Posted on Wed Sep 07, 2005



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When is this coming out????? How much is it gonna cost? Me and my friends can't wait, Quake on this is going to be INSANE!!!
Posted by butttttah  on  Thu Sep 15, 2005  at  03:31 AM
Theirs lots u can use a terabyte for....xxx movies, warez, and awesome hacking proggies
Posted by butttttah  on  Thu Sep 15, 2005  at  03:35 AM
Man Alive, how can anyone think this website represents a real product ?
Posted by VoiceOfReason  on  Thu Sep 15, 2005  at  10:13 AM
Researching the Quantum Processor you find there are many labs doing working on this. i dont see it completly unlikly as for the website these guys are computer engineers not webmaster. I want to see it in the fair before i can discredit
Posted by Josh  on  Thu Sep 15, 2005  at  11:14 AM
It's at least 50% fake, i dont want to go in detail... wait im not even going to give an argument. It's fake u'll see! (Time will tell)
Posted by iCQ  on  Fri Sep 16, 2005  at  09:06 PM
You are all idiots. This is the biggest fake on the planet.
Posted by Dustin  on  Wed Sep 21, 2005  at  10:48 AM
Here is who registered the domain name, has anyone tried contacting this person? This seems too far fetched to be true.

Registrant:
Shimon Gendlin
Shimon Gendlin
21 Reed Lane
Westbury, NY 11590
US
Email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: atomchip.com

Created on..............: Sun, Aug 25, 2002
Expires on..............: Fri, Aug 25, 2006
Record last updated on..: Fri, Jul 29, 2005

Administrative Contact:
WIPOI
Shimon Gendlin
21 Reed Lane
Westbury, NY 11590
US
Phone: 516-368-4800
Email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

Technical Contact:
Register.Com
Domain Registrar
575 8th Avenue 11th Floor
New York, NY 10018
US
Phone: 1-902-7492701
Email: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Posted by Sk33t3r  on  Wed Sep 28, 2005  at  07:56 AM
They have been developing holographic storage for years now guys.. It's been in science articles for a long time now. This could be a real development.
Posted by Cody  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  12:38 AM
YOUR RETARDED
Posted by Shockie  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  05:50 AM
Re: Shockie

No it's "you're retarded".

Ironic, eh?

Moron.
Posted by Peanut  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  07:00 AM
Lol.. I'll get me coat.

Just seen the link to the t-shirt... 😉
Posted by Peanut  on  Thu Sep 29, 2005  at  07:02 AM
"you will find a German University where there is a team who has developed such a chip. It hardly suprises me that this could indeed be real.

http://pi1.physi.uni-heidelberg.de/physi/atph/index.php"

Do the math ppl. If he filed his hardware patent in '96, which included the manufacturing process that's plenty of time for corporate and government research labs to use his concepts and ideas for their own devlopment. I suspect he's been forced into production to capitalize on his inventions before the labs send their -slightly different- developments to the people paying their bills.
Posted by Quantum Thinker  on  Sat Oct 08, 2005  at  02:03 AM
He also deserves a programming award if he could get a symetric multi-proceess OS to run on an asymetric processing CPU. Must be ported all to H in which case the benchmark is probably bogus since it represents mutiple symetric-threaded processes. I don't think there's any benchmark or program coded for more than 4 threads. But there are ways to get around that....
Posted by Quantum Thinker  on  Sat Oct 08, 2005  at  02:18 AM
Get real people.

Do you really think that if they actually developped this kind of technology their first application would be laptops???

Selling them a few thousand dollars to the average Joe???

Showing it at a comsumer trade show???

This would go strait into server class machines and sold gazillions of dollars to big corporation ready to pay the price.

It would take a few years before it hits consumer markets.
Posted by Pedro  on  Mon Oct 10, 2005  at  02:18 AM
;) i don't believe it
Posted by Dragomir Georgiev  on  Sun Nov 13, 2005  at  10:07 AM
what are you guys afriad of.
what was the fastest cpu in 1996.
what is the fastest cpu today.
how meny years ago did they say that burning resistors into gold would hit a dead end.
do you think when they found that out they would just stick to it, and barry there heads in the sand. no!
to all those people saying how can it run windows.
how does mac computers play games and run using windows programs, its called virtual pc. these guys are computer engineers and programers. and yes they do need a clean room. what gets in the way of the light screws up there resurch (eg. dust). does anyone know there investor list there tech doners, anything about them. yes the tech they are using is limited by the old tech they are using but is it not a step in the right direction.
the bench mark is the whole system running and using old tech there is huge bottle necks everywhere.
if we as people can imagine it we can make it happen, just think 100 years ago what kind of tech did we have. 50 years ago what kind of tech did we have.

(the greats. einstien, hutchenson, newton, divinchy, tesla, vern. if you can think of it so shall it be.)

im not say ney or yeh to this company i only can hope its true.

sorry if im not the best speller.
Posted by techguru  on  Tue Nov 29, 2005  at  08:10 AM
its fake fake fake!!!
you've been totally punk'd !!

i could do better mock ups of that stuff in paintshop pro. I love the old SIMM chip with the 1TB sticker... funny guys.

the domain registration should be convincing enough for people who are still gullible enough to lap this stuff up.
Posted by Korben Dallas  on  Thu Dec 15, 2005  at  09:45 PM
If it is fake it certainly is a well-thought out, elaborate and long-standing hoax.

I suggest that you forget the quality of the website and the english. Lack of facility in language is not uncommon among first generation emigrant scientists that I have known.

It is wise to reserve judgement until the actual demonstration of the technology. However, the recent news regarding the possible falsification of data published in Science regarding a stem cell breakthrough by a team of scientists in Korea gives one pause for thought.

Nevertheless, it is an interesting exercise to find out how much hard information and science can be found on this subject.

Are the patents real? Yes.
Are they from 1996? Yes. (Submission date)
Is the science plausible? I am not an expert, but here are some clues ...

1) There is a consortium of German Universities working on atom chips. If you download and compare their recent (2002) review paper to Dr. Gendlin's patent description, you may be surprised to find out that Dr. Gendlin's patent describes some very similar fundamental concepts.

http://pi1.physi.uni-heidelberg.de/physi/atph/index.php,
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5673220.html

2) If you do a google search for Ben Aryeh (listed as one of the principle officers in Dr. Gendlin's company, you will find links to a published physicist with the last name Ben-Aryeh, who publishes in the area of quantum and photon physics.

There seems to be a smoking gun here, but no body. I can't wait to see what happens after the January CES. We'll have a body then. I hope someone has a chance to examine it thoroughly.
Posted by sci-guy  on  Wed Dec 21, 2005  at  12:10 AM
Yo, Ces is on now:

This is the contact details and booth number:

http://cesweb.org/attendees/directory/rd_exhibitor_details.asp?exhibid=7059&

Company Booth(s):
Booth NumberShow Location
36604South Hall

Can somebody wonder over there and see.
Posted by Stevey  on  Thu Jan 05, 2006  at  02:01 AM
Anyone has any info on this... Atom Chipy thingie? Any reports from CES? Any news in the Web?
Posted by Anonymous  on  Thu Jan 05, 2006  at  11:14 AM
I'm still looking for reports from CES about this Atom Chip, I've been 50/50 about this, so was really hoping for some CES reports to emerge about Shimon and his company.
Posted by Liam  on  Thu Jan 05, 2006  at  05:24 PM
If anybody has a friend that is going, ring them on their mobile, and ask them to wonder over and check it out. If it aren't there, ask CES administration why this firm on their site hasn't shown.
Posted by Stevey  on  Thu Jan 05, 2006  at  10:49 PM
Gizmodo says it's real. (Well, really THERE at least.) No hands-on test yet.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/ces/live-from-ces-quantum-disk-from-atom-chip-corp-147086.php
Posted by Ben  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  03:11 PM
Gizmodo has a short thingy on this Quantum Thingy.

http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/ces/live-from-ces-quantum-disk-from-atom-chip-corp-147086.php

Hopefully they'll have more...
Posted by StevieD  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  03:17 PM
im hooked

i think its real

check this out
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EKF/is_n2191_v43/ai_19951759
Posted by blake  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  05:10 PM
a vid:
http://www.compu-technics.com/images/solar memory.WMV
Posted by blake  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  05:13 PM
yeahhh, that last vid there pretty much clinches it as a hoax, reallly fake. I mean like sad fake. like I could have done better on my machine in about 10 mins.
Posted by awww  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  05:38 PM
I find this website sometimes ago and i was not sure about fake or not.
But now, since i read the latest news on Gizmodo and that i watched the video i'm 100% sure it's fake.
So fun they are taking picture of something without lens...
Come on, it's just a cmos or lcd chip on a solar panel, 2 small red dots on it and a laser...
AND a small paper.
So what you see at the end is no more than a reflexion of the same stupid paper... :-D
Anyway, we will see some interresting stuffs coming in a near future, like puRAM or IRam drives.

Best regards,

Red
Posted by red  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  05:38 PM
with that and google with their cheap world computer idea.
i heard gates talking about how it would help develope the world more if everyone was connected

google is takeing over


http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/06/live-coverage-of-the-google-keynote/#comments

regardless is the adam a hoax or not
Posted by blake  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  05:51 PM
any updates on the CES2006!? its best if somebody from the trade fair can tell us if they see the booth and the item.
Posted by Marcela  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  08:34 PM
everyone knows it's fake. The company is just trying to get press and buzz.
Posted by bill  on  Fri Jan 06, 2006  at  09:18 PM
Yeah watch the Video of the "Solar power chip" on the website, and then try to argue the validity of this company. Its sad to think how many people will be suckered by this guy.
Posted by suckers  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  01:01 AM
Oh this is too funny...

I checked the whois of his site as and realised that I live a couple blocks away from this freak...... Nice to see someone from my neighbourhood making a name for themself........

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... too funny......
Posted by Ass-Nugget  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  04:28 AM
Good, your the man, go around there and check him out, maybe he has a working prototype in his garage.

Maybe we should ring him, and tell him we are sending around an Ass-Nugget for him.

Seriously, things are a lot easier to errantly dismiss than to prove. A bad demo is somebody that hasn't spent the time, or simply somebody that spent it on something better. Hold it another saying coming, of yeah, now maybe I should actually watch the demo.

Oh yeah, I could spend oodles of pages discussing this one as a technical person. There is something that can produce that effect, firstly it would either have to gather photons from the direction of the text recorded, if not from all directions, and replay them back in another mirrored angle. Possible. But then it records a sequence of them over time, so every point has a depth of temporal memory, still possible, but that would be a feat and a half. But what gives the plot away as extremely poor presentation, or a hoax, is that when the supposed image turns off, there is cut frame when it goes to grey, and another when it goes to black. The camera has moved in between the frames, and it is being passed off as continuous footage. It is either very bad presentation to make it look neater (and people do do some odd things) or just a hoax.
Posted by Stevey  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  05:53 AM
Oh, yeah, this demo is so bad it is hard to believe it is a hoax 😉

Firstly, as suspected last time, the text is moved along and down to centre it properly, and at the end it is moved faster. But on the "solar chip" replay of it, it is already centred and moves much more smoothly to the end. In video production it is common to shoot each a sequence/part multiple times, and put the best shoot of each part together to form a new sequence, and even jump cut borings bits. This is very rough. But I must admire the solar chip's physics bending movements on the space test flight part of the demo 😉
Posted by Stevey  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  06:09 AM
Hi friends,

Did you see (that on the hoax video) during input, the card is shifted about 2 inches vertically during recording (just before the text potion of the sign)? Stangely enough, this does not show up during "playback". Well, maybe it is a quantum thing, I don't know 😊
Posted by Thomas Blom  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  12:13 PM
Is there any sort of proof of operation required to present at CES? Did this guy have to establish that his computer did what he says before being allowed to get a booth?
Posted by Christopher Cole  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  12:37 PM
More, importantly, did he show it at the booth, like they said? I thought they were supposed to release this at some reasonably normal price, doesn't look like it.
Posted by Stevey  on  Sat Jan 07, 2006  at  10:18 PM
The laptops were at CES. They were locked in a display case so no one could use them and see if they were real.
Posted by me  on  Sun Jan 08, 2006  at  10:06 PM
Is pretty lame all this.There is people who is developing Real innovations and want a place in the CES and these people get a place in the CES with big jokes,I wonder if at least have some proof.
I have a friend who works in nanotechnology and is possible,HP is currently working in a prototype with molecular switches.
This could be possible but I bet is an hoak as is not a big Corporation like HP.
Also is pretty lame how the media follow all these crap without any proof.
Posted by EM  on  Sun Jan 08, 2006  at  10:55 PM
I'm betting the real thing here is to make a flurry of patents, create some vapour-ware that seems to work, let someone else ACTUALLY develop the technology, and then sue that company for patent infringement.
Posted by Brad  on  Mon Jan 09, 2006  at  09:29 AM
Hoax with a capital H.
Nothing more going on here then patenting an idea and waiting to get bought out.
The web site is half arsed, the corporate officers seem to be all "family" with mickey mouse email accounts (4 all go to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) one to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)), the pages with pictures are cobbled together pieces of old hardware. Laptop use, great way to hide what you are up to, it's enclosed, with no sight of the guts. How about a nice plastic case with no HD and this "NEW" tech hooked up and running. The system info, another hack.
Posted by Hoax  on  Mon Jan 09, 2006  at  12:06 PM
This whole set-up smells like a prank produced by a danish performing artist (whose name I forgot).
Some time ago he went with a cravan and some (mostly elder) people from Danmark to the US to support Bush in the elections (He DIDN`T, it was art...)(check it here:www.danesforbush.org).
Then he pulled something off that looks quite simmilar to the Atom-thingie. He invented a riffle that (presumaly) could tag people with tracer-bugs without them noticing. He got so far as to be invited to a international Police supplier convention in (get this!) CHINA!
This guy really went there with a nonexisting invention, just with some nice drawings aso!
Best part: The chinese were so interested in his divice (they wanted to order!)that he got cold feed and left the country some days before the convention ended. If I remember it correctly he really holds a patent for that riffle and was quite scared about the offers big manufacturers were giving... (check it here:www.backfire.dk/EMPIRENORTH/newsite/index.htm)
I couldn`t find any home adress for the Atom Company, but if it`s the same as the ones for the two links above (namely:Svinget 2, suite 2, second floor on the left,DK-2300 Copenhagen S), it`s the same guy...

BTW: Why does Mr. Shimon Gendlin won an "Golden Oscar" as seen under the European(!) Awards section? For best performance in a Prank???
Posted by BoJo  on  Mon Mar 20, 2006  at  09:39 PM
Why don't you people learn to type and speak enlglish before you try to post something that is supposed to sound halfway intelligent. How many of you people have a PhD in physics? How many have spent time studying quantum mechanics? In all likelyhood, none. How can you dismiss something that you know nothing about?
Posted by rectifyer  on  Thu Mar 23, 2006  at  06:12 PM
Hey rectifyer,
ever considered that not everyone here has the advantage of having english as their native language ?
About dismissing things we no nothing about: well, maybe you didn`t recognice that museumofhoaxes is a side where you can discuss whether certain things are or are not hoaxes.
But I guess you know better then the rest of us, don`t you?
Posted by BoJO  on  Thu Mar 23, 2006  at  08:03 PM
rectifyer said:

"How many have spent time studying quantum mechanics? In all likelyhood, none. How can you dismiss something that you know nothing about?"

OK, so have YOU studied quantum mechanics? If yes, please explain this AtomChip to us in layman's terms. If not, how can you simply accept the claims made for the AtomChip without being able to understand them?
Posted by Cranky Media Guy  on  Fri Mar 24, 2006  at  01:37 AM
cia senos naujienos
Posted by sudelis  on  Thu Nov 30, 2006  at  05:14 AM
I had a play with a similar idea a few years ago, I used a semiconductor laser, a focusing lenses, a roll of 35mm film and a prism. I wasn't trying to achieve what is reported here, I was trying to see if it was possible to record a set of images on the film in a kind of microdot format. I had a little bit of success too, except that the images recorded were very poor or non existent, probably due to the fineness of the film used (or lack of it) and it could also have something to do with the colour of the laser light and the films sensitivity to it, the point is, I managed to get something on the film with just a few odds and ends I had kicking around in my shed, even though my developing skills are a bit shaky. After a few experiments, I gave up on the idea, until my brother asked if I could record data on the film. I gave it a try and had quite a bit of success, what I couldn't figure out was what use it would be, we already had cd's and DVD's, so what use was this? What this new technology suggest to me is a method of recording holographic representations of data in a 3d substrate using micro lenses to guide the laser beams to the correct location (memory address). This is not unlike an article I read many years ago about cube crystal memory, the idea was very similar, only on a larger scale (I think we were using 286's then, long time ago) the problem they had was getting the device to keep the stored data for a useable period, it used a crystal structure which altered when a certain frequency of laser was used, two beams would cross at some point within the crystal and change the structure slightly, when you wanted to read the data, another set of beams of a different frequency were used, this time the structure of the crystal would cause an interference pattern in the beams wich could the be detected using sensors and thus the data could be read, the problem was that the crystal structure would always try and return to its natural state, a so lose the data. I'm not saying this new technology isn't a fake, anybody with a bit of programming skill could fake the laptop system info, and even have the figure change when a program was run or the mouse was moved. All I am saying is that research into this technology could have and should have been taken on by one of the big corporations years ago. Sorry to ramble on. The end.
Posted by the rigger  on  Tue Feb 06, 2007  at  04:35 PM
Hiya people,

Firstly, none of the technology used in these devices is 'revolutionary' at least in the theory side. There have been 'Quantum' computers made before (see http://domino.watson.ibm.com/comm/pr.nsf/pages/news.20011219_quantum.html)
and, the really scary bit, they work!

Secondly, there's nothing wrong with using commodity electronics to prototype new designs. I assume that when the first CD-ROM drive was prototyped, it did not have a play button, touch sensitive loading or an SPDIF out option, but all of these can be found on many CD-ROMS in the market today. If AtomChip want to use an optical connector from Radio Shack to use in it's prototypes, it's only doing so because they're easily available in small quantities (no thousand unit orders needed) and provide another level of confidence in the design because a lot of the components are already tried and tested.

Just because the readers on this site can't buy it off the shelf, they assume it doesn't exist. Intel were demonstrating 4GHz processors about 4 or 5 years ago and they still aren't on the market (they probably never will be in the form that was demonstrated).

Don't go writing this off as a hoax just yet. The guy in charge of research at AtomChip has some pretty astounding qualifications. When Albert Fert and Peter Grunberg discovered Giant MagnetoResistance, I would say lots of people denied their claims were true. They have since won a Nobel prize for said discovery, and for it's effects on the data storage industry (indirectly, all of us)

Thanks,

P.S. Please don't all flame me at once 😉
Posted by Climber  on  Mon Jan 14, 2008  at  10:09 PM
On an aside, my favourite quote relating to this field is from Richard Feynman, who said "Anybody who says they understand quantum physics is either lying or crazy."

I think that about sums it up...
Posted by Climber  on  Mon Jan 14, 2008  at  11:58 PM
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