Is Jim Morrison Alive?

image Most people think the musician Jim Morrison, lead singer for the Doors, died in Paris on July 3, 1971. But Gerald Pitts says that he "discovered Jim Morrison Living on a Ranch in the Pacific Northwest in the summer of 1998." According to him, Morrison is living a quiet life as an American cowboy "away from the Hollywood scene." Even though Morrison evidently engineered an elaborate death hoax to escape publicity, he agreed to appear on film for Pitts. You can buy a copy of this film for only $24.95 (shipping is extra). Pitts' site includes a video comparing the features of Jim Morrison the fifty-something cowboy to Jim Morrison the twenty-something singer. However, no matter how many times I watch the video, I just don't see any similarity.

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Dna is not learned.In a movement,in a look,in a sound,even in the slightest, you can see.I have seen
Posted by horses eyes  on  Sat Apr 10, 2010  at  10:54 PM
Dear Horses Eyes,

I share your view...there have been some very compelling videos of Cliff which seem to concur with what you infer by your last comment.

Of course these things can be faked..but I doubt it here...The case seems real enough to me; but I wonder (and I ask because I don't know)..Is Cliff interested in the DNA aspect? or have we moved beyond that? I don't have much time to read this site these days..so if anyone can give me a breakdown of what has happened here recently, I'd appreciate it.
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Sun Apr 11, 2010  at  05:50 PM
I have a good friend who is in the biz and has told me that Jim lives in South Jersey outside of Philly. He has met him and only will tell me the general area
Posted by I know  on  Mon Apr 12, 2010  at  11:50 AM
I live outside Philly. Tell me and I can check it out. What area of Jersey?
Posted by Dr. M  on  Mon Apr 12, 2010  at  05:11 PM
For most and foremost,the DNA sits on the lap of the gods.
Posted by horses providence  on  Mon Apr 12, 2010  at  08:54 PM
Dr. M if you read my post my friend will not tell me the exact town (big secret lol) . But I believe Jim is in Burlington County. I hear he lives there only part of the year.
Posted by I know  on  Tue Apr 13, 2010  at  08:55 AM
The roots of the name Morrison come from the Viking settlers of ancient Scotland. The name was derived from the name Maurice. This comes from the Latin personal name Mauritius, which means dark. Numerous legends exist for the Origins of this great Scottish clan. One old tale holds that the Clan's Norse forbears were shipwrecked off the Isle of Lewis, and saved themselves by clinging to driftwood; hence the Clan Plant badge is driftwood. Another branch claims descent from the O'Muircheasain bards of the outer Hebrides. This latter legend is not inconsistent with a possible shipwreck of the Norsemen, as many of the bardic missionaries from Ireland were of Norse descent. Others claim the Clan is descended from King Somerled, King of the Isles, who died in 1164. Again, this is compatible with history, as Somerled was descended from the Norse Kings of Ireland and gave origin to many of the more notable Scottish Clans.Medieval scribes most often spelled names by the way they sounded. spelling variations, are thus, very common in records dating from that time. Over the years, Morrison has been spelled Morrison, Morison, Morieson and many more.
Posted by horses two crest  on  Tue Apr 13, 2010  at  10:25 AM
The real Jim Morrison didn't have eyebrows. This insane fake does.
Posted by Py  on  Wed Apr 14, 2010  at  03:57 PM
The morning wind began to moan, But still the night went on: Through its giant loom the web of gloom. Crept till each thread was spun: And,as we prayed,we grew afraid Of the Justice of the Sun. Oscar Wilde
Posted by horses books  on  Wed Apr 14, 2010  at  08:58 PM
Whoops!..time to butt out for another few months..cheers all!
Posted by Andrew Carpenter  on  Fri Apr 16, 2010  at  05:36 PM
Bye Andrew,
Hope you have fun back in England. I'm glad you're convinced Cliff is Jim's son. You deserve a break now.
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat Apr 17, 2010  at  06:12 AM
I am Lorraine Widen, CEO and 1/3 owner of Lizard Sun Entertainment. Cliff Morrison is 1/3 owner of Lizard Sun Entertainment.

Floyd Bocox has stated he is the sole owner of LSE as well as well as the president - WHICH IS NOT TRUE. Floyd resigned his position on December 17th, 2008. His resignation was given because of several acts done by him to sabotage the corporation.

Floyd Bocox has stated that Al Bowman and Susanna Griffie have acted in a non professional manner which is also NOT TRUE - LA Music Awards was under contract and they fulfilled the contract in a completely professional manner.

The fact is LA Music Awards and the LA Fame Awards are part of the history of Los Angeles. And the LA Music Awards represent the heartbeat and soul of LA. The industry looks to the Awards as a legitimate source of superior talent - and for the artists, the way to display this talent.

The claims made by Floyd Bocox have no merit.

Floyd Bocox has posted harmful and untrue statements on many sites about both the LA Music Awards and Cliff Morrison. Floyd was totally aware of the fact that in 1992 blood was drawn and the DNA was done. Floyd also knew that this was a private matter between Cliff Morrison and the family. But for Floyd Bocox, that wasn
Posted by lizardsunmusic  on  Tue Apr 20, 2010  at  12:02 PM
And This is relevant because ?????
Posted by Santuary  on  Tue Apr 20, 2010  at  08:30 PM
Google is your friend, "Santuary."

Psst--it's actually spelled "Sanctuary."
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  05:31 AM
Thanks so much for clarifying this Lorraine. I became convinced a long time ago that if the truth were to be made public about Bill Loyer being Jim Morrison, Cliff and Lizard Sun Music would be in the best position to make it happen. Until it does, an ominous shadow looms over the sanctity of this art we call American Rock and Roll. I have heard first hand that Bill Loyer has the utmost respect for Cliff as his legacy.
Posted by JLizard  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  03:54 PM
Every chance you get jlizard you try to link Bill Loyer and Cliff Morrison together. I thinks its pretty tacky.With all the hype and all the obstacles Cliff is having right now, its not cool to link him constantly to Loyer.Because, until Loyer proves himself the right way,it just makes people say, this word I hate-"scam"- louder if you know what I mean.I have readthat mostly everyone, with the exception of you and mr.logan,disslike,hate and do NOT believe Bill Loyer.So how is this respecting and helping cliff? I have specifically read how people are now linking the two together with- the word I hate. Loyer doesn't need Cliff Morrison to make himself known.The gloom the shadow has nothing to do with nothing.Bill Loyer could come out on you tube or whatever.HIMSELF.He has such high respect for his legacy,that's awesome,why are we not hearing it from him,and always secondhand? This mystique, mystery,hiding thing is getting real boring,old,played out.its time for truth.stop messing with us... please.There are a lot of people hurt at this point.and I frankly can't take much more.Loyer stand up.
Posted by me  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  04:58 PM
" I have heard first hand that Bill Loyer has the utmost respect for Cliff as his legacy. Posted by JLizard
Posted by me  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  05:08 PM
The real Jim Morrison would have acknowledged Cliff as his son years ago, if he'd lived. I'm afraid the jig is up for Mr. Loyer, although since he's a devout Christian I suspect Cliff won't be nearly as rough with that fraud as I would be were I in his shoes--assuming of course that Cliff acknowledges Loyer's existence at all.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  07:34 PM
Oh Janet, don't be afraid that the jig is up for Bill Loyer... be afraid that you are too much of a coward to DEMAND the DOORS tell us who Bill Loyer is after 10 years of asking! And please take RIGHT HERE WAITING with you as they too are afraid the jig is up instead of demanding explanation.
Posted by Jlizard  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  08:07 PM
Tu estas muy loco, senor JLiz.

The Doors don't give a damn who Bill Loyers is. They know who he's NOT, and that's all that matters.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Wed Apr 21, 2010  at  08:55 PM
On the contrary,I AM demanding an explanation!!! LOYER stand up!!I am right here waiting.
Posted by me  on  Thu Apr 22, 2010  at  06:21 AM
Coward?How is miss janet a coward? It's not her or The Doors responsibility to act on this.And I believe The Doors mockery and silence about this Is their answer enough.Loyer doesn't need The Doors permission for anything.Nor does he need their approval or blessing.Bill is a big boy,fully grown,and has nothing to be ashamed of or scared of.S of L is protection enough.Being that Jim Morrison is so very much loved,if it really was him,we would just love him even more.And help him any way we can also.Speaking of help,has bill loyer ever'helped'? the starving homeless children he claims to help?!I know some starving homeless people and kids that are suffering while Bill plays with horses and upsets us with this game.If he only really did care........
Posted by me  on  Thu Apr 22, 2010  at  07:37 AM
Loyer has talked with Cliffy. Some timme ago. Ray can't deny it. Densmore knows the face and Robbie probably hopes it isn't him. Well
Posted by Davy in OOntario  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  01:50 AM
If you really DID know 'cliffy',then you know how that conversation went.
Posted by horses ears  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  08:09 AM
Hi Horse. Just passin rumors, also what I have heard. First he isn't then he is, then not. whew
I know that conversation was close to 4 years ago. I don't want in on it. But I had to chime in. I don't have a clue.
Posted by Davy in OOntario  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  01:17 PM
Hello. Well I do KNOW how that conversation went.Unfortunatly these rumors are created by thinking and not knowing.And unlike all the Morrison lovers,haters, and wannabes out there who think they know something or anything but really know nothing at all,unless cliff gives me permission to air the laundry,I will not do so.
Posted by horses business  on  Sat Apr 24, 2010  at  02:21 PM
Horsey, I doubt there ever was such a conversation. Loyer has been dodging the people who could really expose his scam for years now. I simply don't believe he'd have the stones to contact Jim's son, and I can't imagine why Cliff would give him the time of day.

Cliff never knew his father, of course--didn't even find out who his father was until the early 90s, I believe--but his grandfather the Admiral would certainly have clued him in about Loyer's fraud if Cliff had ever broached the subject.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sun Apr 25, 2010  at  11:39 AM
On the other hand, Cliff the Christian walks the walk as well as talks the talk, and I understand that at one point he felt sympathy for that other Morrison fraud--much more successful in terms of $$ than Loyer--whose initials are PK, since she was being accused of the same things Cliff was.

The difference, of course, is that --just like Loyer--she's a fake Morrison who deserves every bit of vituperation thrown her way, whereas Cliff is the Real Thing and doesn't.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sun Apr 25, 2010  at  03:05 PM
Some are so consumed with who they are,some who they want to be,and some who they are not,that what really matters most, is left in the dust and no one gives a f****** sh** about what is hurt or left behind .If someone or anyone really gave a s**t, it would mean something.Yet through it all,Hope springs eternal.
Posted by horses sadness  on  Sun Apr 25, 2010  at  09:05 PM
The conversation did happen with a few ph. calls. They were both searching. Information shows a variation in Cliffs last name years ago. Prove to the ones that matter since you seem to think you are such an authority.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  01:57 AM
For me,Authority was given when I was in my own garden of Gethsemane,and God did not take this cup from me.My perseverance through the storms, Made me stronger and mad.Walking out the door One thousand times.Yet,its my unconditional love and caring ,that proves it every single second of every single day to what matters most.Sometimes what I write has many different meanings wrapped up with a nice bow and other times shredded to pieces.
Posted by horses sadness  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  06:48 AM
It doesn't appear so. We like you horse with no name. Or so many names. I would like to meet somebody who is in control every single second of everyday. I am out of control about half the time. Remember what Paul said. As I ride the white horse the black is always trying to pull ahead. The tongue is a flame that can devour your world...or something like that. One spark can set the whole forest on fire. Hold the reins. May your God who I know is true bless Cliff, you and all.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  12:25 PM
With you possibly excluded and a very few others, Loyer says some people here don't know s***. If you will pardon the asterisk. It is apperant. It is passion. A sense of belonging. It is food to know something.
Posted by David Logan  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  12:55 PM
I know a little spark that will leave the forest in flames.I say then I will not be a horse with no name. Tho I may walk away from this ravenous fire,it only seems my tongue alone might I retire.For you see to have loved and have lost is easily spun,but to have loved and to have gained Is hard to have won. I have been loved Madly enough to walk out that door, just like I've done a thousand times before.When there is nothing u can do God said to just stand,I Know who will be there holding my hand. As I look in the eyes of his blood turned to gold,it isn't money or possessions that I am left here to hold.But a Soul made of him.
Posted by horses mark  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  03:09 PM
Logan .Let's take a certain definition of Authority out of the equation.Control.Which should have no bearing on love (OR proof).Most people mix it with love.Control to me is not powerful(I guess except when you are riding a horse lol).When you learn somethings are out of your control,and you accept it,well the feeling is priceless,easy,and there you can actually feel some peace.example.God doesn't even have full control, he gave us free will.But God has authority and is powerful 😊
Posted by horses reins  on  Mon Apr 26, 2010  at  10:53 PM
Agreed. When I mentioned authority i waas directing towards some of these guessing gamers. They're talking about my friend who is fine man whether he is in the loop and is or not in the loop and isn't.I know the answer. What a wonderful story.
Posted by David Logan  on  Tue Apr 27, 2010  at  03:12 AM
the future's uncertain, and the end is always near.
Posted by the goods  on  Tue Apr 27, 2010  at  07:12 PM
This afternoon I called Florida's Honorable Governor Charlie Crist to thank him again for not siging the bill which would have pardoned Jim Morrison posthumously. I spoke one of the Governor's phone reps and she heard me out for over 6 minutes.

I told her that famous Florida native Jim Morrison was alive with the name Bill Loyer. And that Cliff Morrison was probably his son and has a distinguished career going for himself. That the DOORS don't want to have nothing to do with Bill Loyer as they are profiting quite heavily with Jim being believed dead.

I mentioned this site, because of the numerous wonderful posts here. And finally I told her to again thank Governor Crist for not giving into David Diamond to sign the document set out to embarrass our government. I wished Gov. Crist the best in the upcoming election as he runs again, this time as an independent (there's corruption in politics too, not just rock and roll).
Posted by JLizard  on  Fri Apr 30, 2010  at  03:56 PM
I doubt that it's necessary to call Gov. Christ's office and point out that you are a raving lunatic who has absolutely no standing to speak for anyone but your own demented self, but I might give them a call on Monday anyway, just to share a good laugh with them--and to make sure they understand that pardoning Jim is the correct, the moral, and the just thing to do.

Now listen up, everyone: Jim Morrison--the real one--was the ultimate anti-establishment rebel, and he despised most politicians generally and Richard Nixon particularly. I can't even imagine what he'd have had to say about Ronnie Raygun and Bush I (Poppy), Bush II (Dubya), and Bush III (aka Barack Obama).

Anyone who thinks this man could have somehow morphed into a far Right, born-again "my country right or wrong, love it or leave it" so-called Christian is delusional (never mind the vast physical differences between Jim Morrison and Bill Loyer).

The REAL Jim Morrison had nightmares about being sent to prison, where he was certain he'd be murdered by just that sort of redneck, hippie-hating yahoo. THAT was why he went to France--which has no extradition treaty with this country--and THAT"s why he had no intention of coming back unless he won his appeal.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Fri Apr 30, 2010  at  04:36 PM
(Tosses Janet a roll of tp) Yes, Bill Loyer did actually say, and I quote, "They wanted to arrest me and send me to prison. But I couldn't go there. They would have killed me."
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  06:59 AM
Apparently you've forgotten that Bill Loyer is an ex-con who served time for burglary in the mid-70s, as he related to the L.A. Times reporter who interviewed him in February 1988:

Asking for help has meant swallowing his pride, and the publicity has its own price tag for Loyer. He talked reluctantly Sunday of his private difficulties: his marital problems, his financial troubles, his bout with drugs and some prison time for burglary 14 years ago before his children were born. Much of it explains why he is in this motel room with seven children running around like cowboys and Indians.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:13 AM
Forgot to include the link:

http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-22/local/me-29919_1_motel-room?pg=1
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  11:32 AM
Jan,
You're scratching the surface as to how much Bill loves his children and how much love is in this man's heart.
Posted by Jlizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  01:29 PM
And you're dodging the issue, as usual.

I don't give a damn how much love is in this person's heart for his children, he's still a fraud and a liar who's been impersonating another--and much better--man for years.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  02:07 PM
Looks like Jim got Crist Crossed !

That is not the same Loyer.

Janet if Jim were alive he would be sick, to see we have a President who Larry Sinclair said he had sex with and coke back in 1999.

Obama = Jimmy Carter on Steroids
Posted by Peabody  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  03:55 PM
Forgot to include the link:


http://www.larrysinclair.com/
Posted by Peabody  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  03:58 PM
I'm scratching my head in amazement. Gov Charlie Crist has an advertisement asking for support for his senate run on this page at the Museum of Hoaxes! Maybe he has really investigated this site. Everyone, go out of their way to tell someone in FL to vote Charlie Crist for Senate!
Posted by JLizard  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  04:10 PM
Dear Peabody:

1. No question whatsoever that it's the same Loyer, and

2. Barack Obama is a Reagan Republican. As Bruce Dixon of the blog Black Agenda Report put it so succinctly,

In health care*, as in war and peace, as in the environment and education, as in the rights of women and immigrants, the First Black President's historic role is clear. His job is to smile and speechify and neutralize the left on every front, while taking the country further to the right than his white Republican predecessor would ever have been able.

*Obama's so-called "socialist" health care plan was actually cooked up back in the 90s at the ultraconservative Heritage Foundation. It's a total giveaway to the health insurance industry while completely shafting the American people.

3. You don't know much about Jim or you'd know he was pretty fond of the nose candy himself. He'd despise Obama for his hypocrisy, for being a right wing corporatist/Wall Street sellout masquerading as a left wing populist, not because he used to toot a little.

As for Larry Sinclair--Obama's a homophobe. Just like you are.
Posted by janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  05:20 PM
Here's the link to Bruce Dixon's post entitled "Fake Fight Over Fake Reform:"

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-democrats-vs-tea-party-republicans-fake-fight-over-fake-reform
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  05:33 PM
Oh, and JLizard--about that Crist ad in the upper right corner?

It's a Google ad, which means the Crist campaign pays Google and in return their ad appears on all websites that subscribe to Google advertising, for which the websites make a little $$ in return.

It's got nothing whatsoever to do with your call to Gov. Crist's office on Friday.

So sorry.
Posted by Janet Erwin  on  Sat May 01, 2010  at  06:14 PM
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