Here's a couple of vampire-themed websites sent in by visitors. First we have the
Federal Vampire and Zombie Agency. According to the blurb on the site, "From 1868 to 1975, the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA) was responsible for controlling the nation's vampire and zombie populations while overseeing scientific research into the undead. This site is a tribute to the men and women who served in the FVZA, especially the over 4000 Agents who lost their lives fighting to keep our country safe." And next we have
The Temple of the Vampire. If you want to live forever, then all you have to do is join the temple. The catch is that in order to join you have to buy their book,
The Vampire Bible. That's a good sales gimmick. I should try something like that for my book, such as if you want to achieve a state of absolute enlightenment, then you have to buy my book.
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One thing that I find sort of interesting about the Bibles, and which you've proved accurate with the pictures in your auction, is that the skull in the Winged Skull of UR gets progressively more alien-like as you move up in the totem pole and reach access to higher "Teachings." I've mentioned in earlier posts that the Temple utilizes a constructed language called aUI (which was reported by its author to have been received from a "little green space man"), which confirms to me that the "Teachings" are just a bad amalgamation of occult energy techniques, pseudo-Vedantic philosophy, alien conspiracy theories, and supposedly Sumerian concepts, overlaid with a thin veneer of Vampirism.
It's kooky religion at its finest.
But now I realise I can be happy with what I have. A beautiful wife, a clean, healthy life, no secrets, nothing occult. And I know I can live long if I look after myself.
I am happy being normal. I love my life the way it is and I'm happy. The TOV took much from my life.
I hope you don't mind me asking this and I don't understand how you made it to Adept and discovered it was all a lie? So what led you to the final conclusion that it was all a lie?
And did you have any experiences that validated the teachings from the vampire bibles because you made it to Adept?
And what do you mean by it was just you in the mirror so could you please explain what you mean by this?
Thank You :coolsmile:
I meant just that - it was just me in the mirror. My reflection. Nothing else. No Undead Gods. Nothing but my own reflection.
You did the right thing. Good luck on your Ebay auction. I just took a peek and see that perhaps you will at least get half your money back!
I just downloaded all of the Vampire Bibles from a bit torrent. Well, all except the Priesthood Bible was available. Found a zip file containing, The Vampire Bible, Predator Bible, Sorcerer Bible, Adept Bible and Bloodlines.
I'm actually reading the Sorcerer Bible right now having already read the other first two years ago. This one is just as deluded and disappointing. Also a slow read because of that small annoying hard to read font they use. There are loads of typos as well.
I was once told they print the Bibles this way so that the reader can pay closer attention and retain the material. Truthfully, it actually masks the simplicity, short length of the books and all of the bullshit. When I'm done reading I'll fill you all in on some of the highlights and important texts. I'll even copy and paste sections here. 😉
I didn't mean to put you on the defensive, I was only curious and wasn't trying to "debate" with you or judge you.
And thank you for sharing your experience with everyone here and I expect more to do the same.
I understand why you want to do this and you will detract from this forum by doing so. It would be a copyright infringement and they would contact the MoH site to have it removed.
Sorry to be a buzzkill and you know how they are. 😖
You may very well be correct. I won't post it here. It's not worth having MOH removed. If anyone is curious I guess they can download it on bit torrents. All of the bibles with the exception of the Priesthood Bible is there under one zip file.
It's easy for religious leaders to ensnare their followers with promises of eternal life, bliss, salvation, etc. But that does not make all of these people "retarded".
I think the last poster seems more retarded as he is unable to capitalise his I's and uses truly retarded netspeak terms such as "LOL", along with dismal punctuation and grammar.
I think that your interpretation of what you read is biased by your effort to justify your recent investments.....if you catch my drift.
Mr. "curious" or is it Mr. "by curious", have you contemplated that possibly $800 to Lu Yang might not be the same $800 that it is to you.
I can understand that you would be offended by the thought of throwing money around when it would probably take you months if not years to get $800 via your paper-route.
I think you should be humble in your decision to send Nemo your money as I'm sure you already have.
Ok...exercise over...
I'll second that notion!
Good job and nice set-up on Ebay!
Here is what Lu Yang said and I quote: "Yeah. eBay. So far so good and I have some good offers on the stuff. I mean, as far as I know, I paid for the stuff so it's mine and I can do whatever I want with them.
Yes, I guess I was pretending. Or as they would call it. "suspension of disbelief". And I am sure that goes for all the others.
Posted by Lu Yang in The West on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 12:59 PM"
He spent over 800 dollars pretending. If that's not retarded then I don't know what is.
It might be in that section, or it may be somewhere else, but Nemo outright says that the Temple's philosophical view is idealistic monism, the belief that mind (not matter) is the only thing which exists. That's in direct conflict with the Church of Satan's materialistic view of life. The ToV thinks everything is pure consciousness, and the Church of Satan thinks that everything is pure matter. That's obviously a huge disconnect.
The Temple's idea of idealistic monism fuels a religious philosophy based on TIAMAT, the ancient Sumerian goddess of chaos reinterpreted as the ground of all being. The point of Vampirism, as practiced by the ToV, is to deidentify with the self/ego and realize that everything is really TIAMAT, that TIAMAT, the Dragon, is the only thing which really exists. This realization is the basis for the ToV's claims of immortality. Once you realize that you're really the Dragon, you live forever.
This is almost exactly the same thing as Advaita Vedanta. Hindus who adhere to Advaita believe practically the same thing. The universal Brahman is all that exists, and the atman (personal soul) is just a small part of the Brahman. It is really only the Brahman which exists, experiencing everything simultaneously as all the things in existence. The only real difference is that Hindus believe in an undying soul, and the ToV doesn't.
The ToV also doesn't believe this is the only life, like they claim. They believe in a form of reincarnation, enfleshment is probably a better term, whereby an Arisen Vampire who has deidentified with the self and become one with the Dragon can take over the body of an unsuspecting human victim. He can then live out his life in that body until it dies, and he has to choose another one.
Ridiculous? Yes. Spiritual hogwash? Most definitely.
I have to agree that what you wrote, especially about the Advaita Vedanta, this is very accurate and true in my opinion.
Good job! :coolsmile:
Good job Nahshon in Nowhereville...you summed it up!
Nahshon I've been meaning to ask you...You ever been to the site where the "Black House" once stood?
Really though, good rundown!
Well... I hope you like looking at condos.
Yes, I've seen that picture before. They're really hideous condos too.
Paint that place black and it would be a legacy! If I had the extra money, I would try and buy the place and paint it black just for the Hell of it...no pun intended!
So what being said about the Temple of the Vampire here? Any thoughts?
First the note, the note was written in ancient sumerian code and is telling you not to smoke so much pot before you watch twilight next time.
Second the picture, after careful study and hours of communion I have foreseen that Nemo is actually 2' tall and has a big round head..
Ahhh the joys of Immortality!
Please take a look at the link above.
In this thread, you can see a number of plastic-fangers barrage this newcomers introduction post, many thanks to the CoS members that also posted on this thread a couple of which I have much respect for.
Back to the plastic-fangers and their non-chalant poaching techniques. Fishing from the pond again, hopefully this fish isn't fooled by the bait.
Babydoll-Three links to the ToV below her measly "Hail Satan", it's obvious why she is here isn't it. One of the links is to that stupid video...I hate that video, I hope it stops working soon!
Vitaeviternus-One word to describe this poser..pathetic...Actually two more words..nemo,wannabe.
Nemo-Common Magister/Adept Satanist/Vampire Alien, could you atleast show the CoS some respect and put your billboard at the bottom below anything that has to do with Satanism!
You pathetic scumbag, the minute that you see somebody who comes to the boards with the smallest bit of promise, you and your cronies rush in with your colorful banners!
Rojo the Rooster-Respect to you for removing the banner that so undermined your intelligence but shame on you for trying to fool us with subtlety. I am enlightened every day when the sun comes up!
I even have photos of "big shot" Adepts like Linguascelesta and AEnigma.
And if you go to the Wayback Machine, you can look at the older versions of the ToV website and find links to members' websites.
This thread now seems like a hoax in and of itself.
Looks like the ToV won out. Too bad.
This thread now seems like a hoax in and of itself.
Looks like the ToV won out. Too bad.
Glad to see you return... Seriously, WHO CARES what YOU think? Why are you posting here if you are so beneath it all?
Also, LONNIE, you are a TROLL.
"Why are you posting here or reading the comments if this forum is so beneath you? Just saying..."
I was typing too fast. 😛
Really, it is quite pointless coming on here and acting like a snob you silly person you. :lol:
Really, so how did they win? The opinions against the ToV seem to be pretty abundant elsewhere too and don't seem to be going away.
Yet I do think this thread has run out of steam.
However, just because there are a few silly and off topic comments here doesn't invalidate the other good points that were made here in earlier postings in this thread, in my opinion. Really, I would expect that in any forum like this. And the reader here has to separate the wheat from the chaff to form an opinion about the Temple of the Vampire.
So I suggest that those who are wondering about the ToV as a hoax to go back and read the earlier posts.
As of now, I doubt much more can really be said on this topic.
To this poster, you can use "image shack" to post them in this forum. If you do this I suggest you use the "preview" button when making a post in this forum to see if they post correctly before clicking on the submit button.
Thanks and look forward to seeing them.
It's just that certain people are sensative about certain things regardless of the topic.
I have noticed that when the tread goes into certain directions, certain people seem to get bothered in different ways.
The more personal it gets, the more people come out of the woodwork and accuse it of losing steam. I would say that this thread has been accused of losing steam about 20 times in it's entirety.
It just keeps coming back though...it won't go away.
Now..didn't somebody say something about some pictures!?
....and I really hate when people hijack names.
There are some inaccurate assumptions and silly comments about the Temple here yet they do make some good points on occasion.
http://www.otherkin.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1514
Around page 5 it gets pretty interesting.
Check out this thread. LttD really cracks me up with their double standards. It's a 5 page long rant and critisism of common questionable texts of the Holy Bible. Not only is this extremely cliche on a Satanic messageboard but it's highly hypocritical that they are allowed to question and pick on this yet when someone brings up the topic of vampirism (it's so extreme you don't even have to mention ToV), the subject is immediately discouraged.
The common answer is, "This is a messageboard about Satanism. All discussions about the ToV or vampirism should be directed at their messageboard."
It would be hilarious and awesome if someone (even better coming from a moderator who is anti-ToV) would go on there and say, "This is a messageboard for Satanists. All discussions on Christianity belong on Christian messageboards." :lol:
I think what you are saying is true about the double standard.
Maybe it is "politically incorrect" or taboo for some Satanists to bring up anything about Christianity or the Bible without the usual vampire-like knee jerk reaction? 😜 Anyway, I only focus on and read the posts that interest me.
Also, I think the moderators allowing this discussion shows some more open-mindedness and more mature attitudes on LTTD by some members.
And I do find your sarcasm to be funny. :coolsmirk: