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Posted: 06 November 2005 10:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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...I have to agree with LaMa!  cheese

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Posted: 07 November 2005 12:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I just found this web site of Casper Schillings, I also followed a Fortean Times link. It seemd so interesting, almost too amazing to be true. Looks like it was :( I found this site when I looked up his name to see if I could find out more about him. I have to assume it is a hoax, something about it doesn’t sit right. Bummer !

Erika

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Posted: 07 November 2005 01:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Maegan - 06 November 2005 03:57 PM

...I have to agree with LaMa!  cheese

Ouch, that hurts you doesn’t it?!?  smirk

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Posted: 08 November 2005 06:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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If this was supposed to have been uncovered in the earthquake, then where’s the debris that was formerly covering it?

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Posted: 08 November 2005 08:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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They must be monitoring site traffic as it was updated today…

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Posted: 08 November 2005 02:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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do you think that it has to do somenting with the Siberian ice giant video?

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Posted: 08 November 2005 02:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Paul the Other One - 08 November 2005 01:07 PM

They must be monitoring site traffic as it was updated today…

Oh yep
DISTANCE VIEW & ARTIST’S RENDITION OF THE SKELETON
November 8, 2005
http://www.paleoshilling.nl/whatsnew.html

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Posted: 10 November 2005 01:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Erika - 07 November 2005 05:11 PM

I just found this web site of Casper Schillings, I also followed a Fortean Times link. It seemd so interesting, almost too amazing to be true. Looks like it was :( I found this site when I looked up his name to see if I could find out more about him. I have to assume it is a hoax, something about it doesn’t sit right. Bummer !

Erika

I wasn’t quite certain. Until the second photograph surfaced. I noticed no pains were made to fit it into the fossil record (common ancestry of whales)...

I wrote a renown Paleontologist, specifically an expert on early whales questioning if it is a hoax or if not, what kind of Creature was that thing in the photos?

I have not received permission from the Professor to use their comments, so I will omit their name.

Here is what the Professor concluded:

Sharon, I saw a few of the pictures and am not convinced this is a
fossil.  The part that is reconstructed as the skull appears to me to
be eroded (or carved) in sand- or mudstone.  It is not clear that the
structures interpreted as fossil bone are distinct from the
surrounding sediment, and I strongly doubt that this is a skull.
Another photo, showing a man standing inside what appears to be a
ribcage does show that there are structures distinct from surrounding
sediment: long curved ones that are interpreted as ribs, and a thick
straight one that appears broken into pieces and is interpreted as the
vertebral column.  From the photo, I am guessing that these are
burrows that were filled-in with hard sediment, and weathering caused
them to erode out.  These elongate types of burrows will often break
into smaller segments, which might give the appearance of a vertebral
column.  It is not possible to tell for sure on the basis of the
photos I saw, but I doubt that these are fossils.
Detailed shots of sediment and ‘fossil bone,’ showing unbroken
surfaces as well as places where the bone is broken would indicate
whether the claims are true and these do represent a fossil.  I remain
very sceptical until I see such photos.

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Gosh darn it I wish I could reveal the source of these comments.

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Posted: 11 November 2005 09:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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I’m glad he agreed with what we thought.

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Posted: 13 November 2005 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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1.  Casper Shilling is perfectly willing to give his name, but he never gives any information that can be used to tell if he really exists.  He goes through the trouble of giving specifics about his education, such as his area of study for his undergraduate and graduate work, as well as his thesis, but not the name of his university. This is rather odd.  He only gives specifics when they are generic.
2.  As far as I can see, nobody can find any mention of a Casper Shilling in any relation to Bam, Dhar Sakfane, Ksar Sghir, Nazar Kharizi, Gurma, Samarra, or Genetic Anthropology and Human Migration
3.  Why can’t he carbon date it?  Even if the local government is “notoriously shy” about such things, all he has to do is stick a few fragments in his pocket and take them with him.  If he really is a globe-trotting archaeologist, he ought to be able to get them tested somewhere (back home in Holland, perhaps).  And without the ability to date it, then on what is he basing his assumption that it could have been alive contemporary with humans?
4.  Over a period of 17 months, Shilling never wears different clothes, the plants at the site never grow or change, and the site doesn’t weather.  A person would almost think that all the pictures were taken within moments of each other.

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Posted: 13 November 2005 06:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Hey Accipiter,great questions you have there?
Can you e-mail him ?
Who knows, may be you gonna find the answers you are looking for oh oh

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