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Posted: 28 June 2007 04:49 PM
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There’s a story going on in the US news right now.  It might be international, I don’t know.  How big is “pro wrestling” in the rest of the world?  (I don’t follow wrestling, but this is a fairly big news story.  Slow news week after Paris got released?  Or more likely because of the “celebrity” and bizarre circumstances.)

Anyway, the gist of the story is that a pro wrestler of the WWE, Chris Benoit, apparently killed his wife and 7-year old (mentally retarded) son on Friday of this past weekend.  He strangled her and suffocated him.  He placed a bible next to each body.  Then on Saturday Chris Benoit killed himself by hanging from and exercise machine.

Now comes the latest news on this.  The bodies were not found until around 2:00 PM Monday afternoon.  HOWEVER, just after midnight Monday - about 14 hours before the bodies were found - someone updated Benoit’s Wikipedia page saying he had missed a match on Saturday because of the death of his wife.

I’ll dig around and try to find some of the earlier stories on this for posterity, but here is the link to the article today.  It’s long and glosses over some of the things I’ve mentioned here without giving all the details.  (That’s why I want to find other articles.)

Full article: Web site posting referred to wife’s death 14 hours before cops found her

ATLANTA - Federal drug agents and sheriff’s officials raided the office of pro wrestler Chris Benoit’s personal physician in search of records and other items listed in a warrant, an official said Thursday.

Also Thursday, there was another bizarre twist to the case involving a posting to the online encyclopedia Wikipedia.

At 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found, someone updated Benoit’s page on the Wikipedia site stating that the reason he missed a match Saturday night was “stemming from the death of his wife Nancy.”

The posting was made by someone using an IP address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based, said Cary Bass, a representative of Wikimedia Foundation of St. Petersburg, Fla., the parent company of Wikipedia.

It was not known where the posting was actually sent from, however, Bass said.

Over the weekend, authorities said, Benoit killed his wife and son and then killed himself at their home in Fayetteville.

The Fayette County District Attorney’s Office was made aware of the posting by reporters on Thursday and forwarded the information to sheriff’s investigators who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to AP.

WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit’s cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.

McDevitt said WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, though he did not know if Chris Benoit had one assigned to him.
“I have no idea who posted this,” McDevitt said. “It’s at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we’re unaware of. We don’t know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities.”

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From further down in this same article:

In the days before the killings, Benoit and his wife argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally retarded 7-year-old son, according to an attorney for the WWE wrestling league.

The child suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.

Over the past weekend, authorities said, Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine cable in the couple’s suburban home. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.

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Edit to correct some incorrect facts I originally typed up top.

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Posted: 28 June 2007 05:01 PM   [ # 1 ]
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One of the first articles on this story once some facts were known.  I’m not finding a link on MSNBC with the original story I saw when they didn’t know much other than that they were all dead.

Pro wrestler Benoit kills family then himself

And here’s a nice story about the follow-up reactions by the employer:

[url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19474972/]WWE

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Posted: 28 June 2007 05:13 PM   [ # 2 ]
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Could he have updated his own wiki page?

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Posted: 28 June 2007 05:20 PM   [ # 3 ]
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He was dead by then.  He killed himself sometime on Saturday.  The update was on Monday just after midnight (Sunday night).  And the article mentions that the IP the update came from is in the area where the WWE headquarters are, though specific location apparently couldn’t be determined.  Or hadn’t at been that time of the report.

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Posted: 28 June 2007 05:25 PM   [ # 4 ]
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Ah, I hadn’t paid close enough attention to the times, I assumed that he was perhaps still alive.

Well, someone knew about it. He must have told someone, had help, or as a stretch, was perhaps murdered along with his family and the murder-suicide was staged. I’m leaning towards the first possibility though. He probably freaked and called a buddy.

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Posted: 28 June 2007 05:50 PM   [ # 5 ]
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All right.  Did you read the article I so carefully cited? 😉  He was apparently in contact via text-messaging with other wrestlers and/or friends.  (Police have his phone, so exact details are unknown right now.)

I guess the bigger issue here is why somone knew on Sunday - probably Saturday since he killed himself then - but neglected to follow-up to confirm with authorities, Benoit or whoever and instead decided to post unconfirmed (other than by an apparent text message) information on the Wikipedia page.

I don’t know the legal ramifications of it.  I guess a lot would have to do with who the person is and what exactly they knew based on the message or email they received.  But at this point it falls more into the “really weird and freaky” category (for me) than the “send him/her to jail!” category.

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Posted: 28 June 2007 06:26 PM   [ # 6 ]
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I’ve heard all kinds of stuff about it but the main stuff that seems to filtering thru up here is that him and his wife argued over child care for their ‘disabled’ son and apparently that set off some sort of arguement whereupon they all ended up dead.  I am thinking that all the steroids he took to build up like he was did something to his head.

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Posted: 28 June 2007 08:15 PM   [ # 7 ]
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Well, I suppose that there are at least three likely cases.  One is that he sent an innocent sounding message to a friend saying something like, “My wife is dead, I won’t be showing up”.  Another is that he sent a message saying something like, “By the way, I won’t be around much because I just killed my family,” and the person who received the message decided to not say a word of it to anybody other than making an anonymous Wikipedia entry (which is really rather weird, but people do weird things sometimes).  The other possibility is that somebody just made a lucky guess.

Or else somebody’s made an error in telling time somewhere.

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Posted: 28 June 2007 08:39 PM   [ # 8 ]
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How certain is it that the Wikipedia entry was up ahead of time?  I mean, couldn’t someone have hacked whatever date stamp is being used, or did someone actually report the Wikipedia entry before the murders?

The sequence of events (at least in the MSNBC story) is confusing—well, to me anyway.  The raid of the doctors office took place on Wednesday night to Thursday—does that mean today (Thursday, June 28th), or are these events that happened last week before the murders/suicide?

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Posted: 28 June 2007 09:58 PM   [ # 9 ]
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gray - 28 June 2007 10:26 PM

I’ve heard all kinds of stuff about it but the main stuff that seems to filtering thru up here is that him and his wife argued over child care for their ‘disabled’ son and apparently that set off some sort of arguement whereupon they all ended up dead.  I am thinking that all the steroids he took to build up like he was did something to his head.

‘Roid Rage’ is a myth, Gray.  Most people, especially the press, somehow ‘know’ all about steroids, but cannot cite their source of knowledge; it is because it is all just repeating what someone else ‘knows’, who got it from someone else, and so on.

Now, as a pro wrestler, even though the outcome of each match is pre-ordained, all the moves are real, the throws and jumps are real, and the extreme athleticism of the wrestlers is real.

Such people are highly motivated, highly competitive, and used to solving problems with brute athleticism, not words and analyses. 

Furthermore, he set out a Bible, a book where-in child-killiing and wife abuse is pretty much done at the behest of God all the time.

So perhaps he was told to do his deeds by Heavenly voices; that scenario (yes I admit it, I am really stretching here), anyway, I won’t finish that thought, it is not really very constructive, but it was the man that did those deeds, not the steroids.

Yes, I read a lot about Steroids in both regular printed books and on-line, and yep, I take them too.  I have for about five years now; half the people in the gym do, and just about everyone in the upper-level sports arena of any sport, any venue, Olympian, pro-ball, soccer, running, bicycling, they are all taking them.  Masking their use is quite easy; they all do it *, and you do not read of them whacking each other, do you?

Hasn’t done a F%!*&!!@?<__*cking thing to me, and I will punch out anyone who implies it!

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Posted: 29 June 2007 09:05 AM   [ # 10 ]
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There very well may have been some delay between when Benoit sent the text messages (from both his and his wife’s phone) and when they were received.  The text messages were cries for help though.  He texted “my physical address is ....” several times from both his and his wife’s phone and other messages were regardiing him feeding the dogs and that a side door to the garage was open.

The wikipedia page revision is very weird, though I do believe that they think the IP address of Stamford, CT was spoofed.  Also, whoever made the changes to Benoit’s page had also “vandalised” other pages, one being another wrestler’s page, Chavo Guerrero Jr’s.  Whether this actually has any relevance to the murder suicide is unclear.  The timing of the revision is the weirdest part becasue thpough the IP can be spoofed, the timestamp is supposedly something that cannot be hacked (at least without a major effort that most likely could be detected).

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Posted: 29 June 2007 10:08 AM   [ # 11 ]
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Well, there are people out there who can hack their way into almost anything so i wouldn’t put it past someone to be able to hack a timestamp.

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Posted: 29 June 2007 10:23 AM   [ # 12 ]
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Most likely is that he e-mailed or text messaged someone “my wife is dead”. This someone only read it on Sunday-Monday night and then posted that comment on the Wiki, not knowing it wasn’t a natural death but instead involved a murder-suicide.

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Apparently, some guy admitted to it.  Wikipedia knows who it is, but they are not releasing his name.  The guy heard that Benoit didn’t show up as scheduled and there was all kinds of speculation and rumors.  He posted the “dead wife” bit as a joke, and says he is very sorry for doing so. 

http://www.tmz.com/2007/06/29/who-knew-about-benoit-murders-before-cops/

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Posted: 29 June 2007 03:05 PM   [ # 14 ]
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That’s all right, Bebe.  Here’s a link to an MSNBC article about the same thing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19468182/?GT1=10056

[From a little way down the page]

Investigators had not discovered the bodies Monday when someone altered Benoit

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Posted: 29 June 2007 03:20 PM   [ # 15 ]
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from newsvine.com:

The College Student Who ‘Knew’ About the Benoit Murder-Suicide Before Police

Yesterday it was widely reported by Fox News, the Associated Press, ABC News, digg and a host of other news sites (and originally on Wikinews) that an anonymous user on Wikipedia altered the online encyclopedia’s article on Chris Benoit noting the death of the pro-wrestler’s wife some 13-14 hours before police found the dead bodies of Benoit, his wife, and 7-year-old son. The incident is being treated as a murder-suicide.

What the anonymous user on Wikipedia may have failed to realize, is that little about your activity on Wikipedia (or the rest of the internet) is anonymous.

story continues——>

Yes, I am a “rasslin’ fan”.  I hope this helps slow down the absolutley looney conspiracy theories I’ve seen on other “wrestling” message boards (and to be honest, in the media also).  This murder/suicide is surreal enough without a bunch of idiots spouting ignorance from every orifice.

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Wow. I’ll bet he stops vandalizing pages now that he gets to be treated like a murder suspect for awhile :lol:

*wonders why wiki doesn’t just ban his stupid IP*

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MadCarlotta - 29 June 2007 07:52 PM

Wow. I’ll bet he stops vandalizing pages now that he gets to be treated like a murder suspect for awhile :lol:

*wonders why wiki doesn’t just ban his stupid IP*

Wouldn’t work.  It’s too easy to come up with another ip address.  Just borrow a friends computer or find a wireless hotspot.

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motu - 29 June 2007 01:05 PM

There very well may have been some delay between when Benoit sent the text messages (from both his and his wife’s phone) and when they were received.  The text messages were cries for help though.  He texted “my physical address is ....” several times from both his and his wife’s phone and other messages were regardiing him feeding the dogs and that a side door to the garage was open.

The wikipedia page revision is very weird, though I do believe that they think the IP address of Stamford, CT was spoofed.  Also, whoever made the changes to Benoit’s page had also “vandalised” other pages, one being another wrestler’s page, Chavo Guerrero Jr’s.  Whether this actually has any relevance to the murder suicide is unclear.  The timing of the revision is the weirdest part becasue thpough the IP can be spoofed, the timestamp is supposedly something that cannot be hacked (at least without a major effort that most likely could be detected).

You know, I am not a conspiracy freak or anything, but on review of all the above observations and information, it would not be that far a stretch to conclude that someone else may, indeed, have been involved here, you know?

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motu - 29 June 2007 07:20 PM

Yes, I am a “rasslin’ fan”.  I hope this helps slow down the absolutley looney conspiracy theories I’ve seen on other “wrestling” message boards (and to be honest, in the media also).  This murder/suicide is surreal enough without a bunch of idiots spouting ignorance from every orifice.

Uh oh, I am in big deep trouble now…....

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You know, I am not a conspiracy freak or anything, but on review of all the above observations and information, it would not be that far a stretch to conclude that someone else may, indeed, have been involved here, you know?

No signs of forced entry,gated community, no signs of a struggle in the house, german sheperd guard dogs delayed the cops entry into the house, signs of violence but not of a struggle on wife and son, no scratches or signs of a struggle on Benoit.  Though the timeline of events is still very much in question there does seem to be agreement that there were many hours between each death, Nancy, Daniel and Chris. There was some cell phone activity that has created a lot of rumors but eventually they might help with the timeline of events. There is no physical evidence whatsoever to suggest anything but Chris Benoit murdered his wife, then his son, and afterwards commited suicide.  There is no conspiracy here, just tragedy with some freaky coincidence/synchroncity and a lot of media attention…

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