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U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
Posted: 30 May 2007 06:38 AM   [ Ignore ]
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In the early 1960s, America’s top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban

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Posted: 30 May 2007 08:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Not remotely surprised.

This is why the US is terrible at intelligence. MI6 doesn’t come up with such garish plans and if they did they certainly wouldn’t have let it get out tongue wink

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Posted: 30 May 2007 08:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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They are warming up in Brittain:


“Calls grow for public inquiry into 7/7 bombs”

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Posted: 30 May 2007 08:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Hey that’s London for you. tongue wink

The reason MI6 can’t infiltrate Islamic terrorists is because their Eton- educated gentleman spies tend to stick out in al Quaeda cells.

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Posted: 30 May 2007 08:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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“United” Kingdom then.

The reason MI6 can

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Posted: 30 May 2007 09:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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As I mentioned in the thread about Marilyn Monroe, the 60’s era (in the U.S anyway), was a vicious time.  I didn’t come home here until the late 60’s so I didn’t know about a lot of the things that occurred or were even happening at the time I arrived and was more concerned about events in Europe. 

I think that was one of the reasons, after finally realizing all the things my OWN country was doing and had done, that I was woefully disappointed in the ideal it had and still does for many, stand for.

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Posted: 30 May 2007 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy’s defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

Ummm, no.  One paragraph of Operation Northwoods was provisionally accepted for future consideration by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a paragraph that involved shooting down an unmanned drone and saying that the Cubans did it.  All the rest of the stuff in the document they rejected.  Nor were these plans drafted by the “top military leaders”.  Reviewed by them, yes.  But not drafted by them.  The plans were written by analysts sitting in their little cubicles.

It looks as though the JCS aren’t the only ones trying to use scare tactics on the public. . .

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Posted: 30 May 2007 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Accipiter - 30 May 2007 01:29 PM

The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy’s defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.

Ummm, no.  One paragraph of Operation Northwoods was provisionally accepted for future consideration by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, a paragraph that involved shooting down an unmanned drone and saying that the Cubans did it.  All the rest of the stuff in the document they rejected.  Nor were these plans drafted by the “top military leaders”.  Reviewed by them, yes.  But not drafted by them.  The plans were written by analysts sitting in their little cubicles.

It looks as though the JCS aren’t the only ones trying to use scare tactics on the public. . .

When did anyone ever let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory? tongue wink

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Posted: 30 May 2007 11:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Well, this sort of thing is plausible to me, though it would have been originated by the Presidency, not the military.

There is still controversy over the sinking of the US Battleship ‘Maine’ in Cuban waters a hundred years ago, an event which justified the Spanish-Amereican War.  Many say we sunk it ourselves to inflame the public.

And there is a great deal of evidence that leads one to believe the White House knew of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.  For one, all our modern ships were safely out to sea, only the older outdated ones were in port.

There was not much support for joining the war against Hitler until after the attack; indeed, we only declared war against Japan that day, and not against Germany until after Hitler declared war against us the following day.  We were quite the isolationists back then.

So, anyway, there is certainly precedence for this sort of thing, and when it comes to justifying war and making $ Billions, nothing is too far-fetched.

Dan, not really a conspiracy theorist, but certainly open-minded

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Posted: 30 May 2007 12:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Dan Jr. - 30 May 2007 03:58 PM

Well, this sort of thing is plausible to me, though it would have been originated by the Presidency, not the military.

There is still controversy over the sinking of the US Battleship ‘Maine’ in Cuban waters a hundred years ago, an event which justified the Spanish-Amereican War.  Many say we sunk it ourselves to inflame the public.

And there is a great deal of evidence that leads one to believe the White House knew of the impending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941.  For one, all our modern ships were safely out to sea, only the older outdated ones were in port.

There was not much support for joining the war against Hitler until after the attack; indeed, we only declared war against Japan that day, and not against Germany until after Hitler declared war against us the following day.  We were quite the isolationists back then.

So, anyway, there is certainly precedence for this sort of thing, and when it comes to justifying war and making $ Billions, nothing is too far-fetched.

Dan, not really a conspiracy theorist, but certainly open-minded

Actually, there was growing support for joining the war prior to December 7th.  It seems very likely that the US would have entered into the war sometime in the next year anyway, though that doesn’t invalidate the belief that someone allowed the Japanese attack to occur without alerting the defenders.  I still don’t see it as likely, that’s tantamount to treason and carries a potential death penalty if you’re caught.

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Posted: 30 May 2007 02:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Amazing to think that U.S and cuba are so friendly today smile

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Posted: 30 May 2007 02:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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uhhuh….

“I’m not the first, nor will I be the last, who Bush has ordered to be deprived of life,” said Castro, who offered no details of the alleged conversation.

 

as he said yesterday

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