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Is the U.S. Govt secretly testing a mind control weapon?
Posted: 05 February 2007 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I don’t know whether to laugh, cry, or make a tin foil hat

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Concerns about microwaves and mind control date to the 1960s, when the U.S. government discovered that its embassy in Moscow was being bombarded by low-level electromagnetic radiation. In 1965, according to declassified Defense Department documents, the Pentagon, at the behest of the White House, launched Project Pandora, top-secret research to explore the behavioral and biological effects of low-level microwaves. For approximately four years, the Pentagon conducted secret research: zapping monkeys; exposing unwitting sailors to microwave radiation; and conducting a host of other unusual experiments (a sub-project of Project Pandora was titled Project Bizarre). The results were mixed, and the program was plagued by disagreements and scientific squabbles. The “Moscow signal,” as it was called, was eventually attributed to eavesdropping, not mind control, and Pandora ended in 1970. And with it, the military’s research into so-called non-thermal microwave effects seemed to die out, at least in the unclassified realm.

But there are hints of ongoing research: An academic paper written for the Air Force in the mid-1990s mentions the idea of a weapon that would use sound waves to send words into a person’s head. “The signal can be a ‘message from God’ that can warn the enemy of impending doom, or encourage the enemy to surrender,” the author concluded.

In 2002, the Air Force Research Laboratory patented precisely such a technology: using microwaves to send words into someone’s head. That work is frequently cited on mind-control Web sites. Rich Garcia, a spokesman for the research laboratory’s directed energy directorate, declined to discuss that patent or current or related research in the field, citing the lab’s policy not to comment on its microwave work.

In response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed for this article, the Air Force released unclassified documents surrounding that 2002 patent—records that note that the patent was based on human experimentation in October 1994 at the Air Force lab, where scientists were able to transmit phrases into the heads of human subjects, albeit with marginal intelligibility. Research appeared to continue at least through 2002. Where this work has gone since is unclear—the research laboratory, citing classification, refused to discuss it or release other materials.

The official U.S. Air Force position is that there are no non-thermal effects of microwaves. Yet Dennis Bushnell, chief scientist at NASA’s Langley Research Center, tagged microwave attacks against the human brain as part of future warfare in a 2001 presentation to the National Defense Industrial Association about “Future Strategic Issues.”

“That work is exceedingly sensitive” and unlikely to be reported in any unclassified documents, he says.

Meanwhile, the military’s use of weapons that employ electromagnetic radiation to create pain is well-known, as are some of the limitations of such weapons. In 2001, the Pentagon declassified one element of this research: the Active Denial System, a weapon that uses electromagnetic radiation to heat skin and create an intense burning sensation. So, yes, there is technology designed to beam painful invisible rays at humans, but the weapon seems to fall far short of what could account for many of the TIs’ symptoms. While its exact range is classified, Doug Beason, an expert in directed-energy weapons, puts it at about 700 meters, and the beam cannot penetrate a number of materials, such as aluminum. Considering the size of the full-scale weapon, which resembles a satellite dish, and its operational limitations, the ability of the government or anyone else to shoot beams at hundreds of people—on city streets, into their homes and while they travel in cars and planes—is beyond improbable.

But, given the history of America’s clandestine research, it’s reasonable to assume that if the defense establishment could develop mind-control or long-distance ray weapons, it almost certainly would. And, once developed, the possibility that they might be tested on innocent civilians could not be categorically dismissed.

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Posted: 05 February 2007 07:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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MadCarlotta - 05 February 2007 11:27 PM

I don’t know whether to laugh, cry, or make a tin foil hat

It’s way too long to paste here, so I’ll just give you a sample, but you should go read the whole thing:

Meanwhile, the military’s use of weapons that employ electromagnetic radiation to create pain is well-known, as are some of the limitations of such weapons. In 2001, the Pentagon declassified one element of this research: the Active Denial System, a weapon that uses electromagnetic radiation to heat skin and create an intense burning sensation. So, yes, there is technology designed to beam painful invisible rays at humans, but the weapon seems to fall far short of what could account for many of the TIs’ symptoms. While its exact range is classified, Doug Beason, an expert in directed-energy weapons, puts it at about 700 meters, and the beam cannot penetrate a number of materials, such as aluminum. Considering the size of the full-scale weapon, which resembles a satellite dish, and its operational limitations, the ability of the government or anyone else to shoot beams at hundreds of people—on city streets, into their homes and while they travel in cars and planes—is beyond improbable.

But, given the history of America’s clandestine research, it’s reasonable to assume that if the defense establishment could develop mind-control or long-distance ray weapons, it almost certainly would. And, once developed, the possibility that they might be tested on innocent civilians could not be categorically dismissed.

Which, actually, the military just unveiled a week or so ago.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/2007-01-24-heatbeamgun_x.htm

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Posted: 05 February 2007 08:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Goverments have been using mind control for millenna.  It’s called propaganda

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Posted: 06 February 2007 06:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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2,4Ghz (homephones, wifi, microwaveovens, tv-signal relay etc) is part of the conspiracy.

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Posted: 06 February 2007 06:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Posted: 06 February 2007 07:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I’ve actually had some experience in this area, and I can absolutely confirm…

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it is not true there is no such thing as mind control please go about your business there is nothing to see here

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Posted: 06 February 2007 09:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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*tap tap*
*shake*

David, you’ve gone and darn well fried it!
*throws the mind controller away in disgust*

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Posted: 06 February 2007 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Well, none of what I saw in that article is even actually anything like mind control.  The closest was that thing with making people hear semi-legible voices, which is at best just a really good form of suggestion.  But it doesn’t come close to actually controlling anybody’s thoughts.

The rest of that stuff was all the same sort level of mind control as is hitting somebody with a hammer and telling them to get out of your way.

The nonclassified work that I can think of that’s closest to mind control is just simple brain-washing.  And even that’s not actual mind control; the individual is still in control of his own mind, it’s just that his thoughts are based on the information that he was given.  But his mind’s use of that information is still all at his own control.

As for any top-secret mind controlling technology. . .if any government did have that, then wouldn’t there be some country out there where everybody’s always agreeing with the government and doing the ruler’s bidding?  That’s certainly not what’s going on in any country that I can think of.

Of course, militaries have to do research on mind control.  The idea of mind control is already out there and well known, and can’t be made to go away.  So there are bound to be people out there trying to develop it.  And if somebody does develop it, and if nobody else has any ideas as to the properties of mind control, then the rest of the world will be in trouble.  So militaries have the responsibility to be sure that if anybody creates mind control, that it’s themselves (themselves being the virtuous and noble good-guys, of course) and not the other guys (who of course can’t be trusted and would use the technology for nefarious purposes).  And yes, I do realise that there are some major problems with that reasoning.  But that’s the way the reasoning goes.  And militaries do have that responsibility to their nations.

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Posted: 06 February 2007 10:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Maybe someone HAS developed it, and all our minds are being controlled to think that no one’s done it yet!

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Posted: 07 February 2007 07:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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kewster - 07 February 2007 03:26 AM

Maybe someone HAS developed it, and all our minds are being controlled to think that no one’s done it yet!

Considering all the disagreement in the world, they must not be doing a good job with the mind-controlling.  Unless disagreement is what they’re wanting?  Hmmm. . .

Or else they can only control one person at a time, and so they’re madly re-focusing their mind control ray on different people every few seconds.  “Zap him, quickly!  No, no, wait, he doesn’t matter now, get her instead!  And now switch to him!  No, him!  Aaaah, too late, he already made a decision!  Let’s get that guy over there, hurry!  You missed, that’s a chaffinch you’re controlling!  Aim!  Aim!!!”

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Posted: 07 February 2007 05:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Accipiter - 07 February 2007 12:35 PM

Or else they can only control one person at a time, and so they’re madly re-focusing their mind control ray on different people every few seconds.  “Zap him, quickly!  No, no, wait, he doesn’t matter now, get her instead!  And now switch to him!  No, him!  Aaaah, too late, he already made a decision!  Let’s get that guy over there, hurry!  You missed, that’s a chaffinch you’re controlling!  Aim!  Aim!!!”

Instead of telling the guy what to do wouldn’t it be easier to have a second device to use on the guy using the first device? wink

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Posted: 08 February 2007 06:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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What would happen if they both turned the devices on each other at the same time, though?

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