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Posted: 28 August 2006 09:51 AM   [ Ignore ]
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In an effort to take this discussion away from the LifeWave Hoax Forum, I’ve started this new Hoax Forum on the Harmony Chip.

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Dave
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http://www.harmonyunited.com/start.html

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Posted: 28 August 2006 10:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Bob Burtis of the WWSN got the ball rolling on this wonderful new invention back in January 2006

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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 | 02:14 PM
Guys, perhaps we have too hasty….

Take a look at this MLM product being marketed as the “Harmony Chip”.
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The principles upon which the Harmony Chip Technology functions are basically quite simple and, since Einstein’s work on the Unified Field Theory, increasingly well known. What no-one else has yet been able to do is to create a commercially viable application of this science.

The laws of physics governing the quantum level are, in many ways, radically different to those governing the everyday world which we see around us. If it were possible to bring about the appropriate changes at the quantum level, which determines the nature of the world at the everyday level then anti-gravity, faster-than-light, perpetual motion and many other science fiction dreams could become everyday reality. Some day we’ll get there as well.

As the developing Harmony Chip became able to process finer and finer energy impulses it’s field of applications became broader and broader until it has even become extremely effective in ordering the chaotic energy fields of ill and unhappy people. It is this harmonizing which leads to both the body and the mind naturally correcting and repairing themselves.

(Should you wish to express doubt about the existence of human energy fields, I would respectfully point out that, in 1984, Dr. Karlos Riebel from Switzerland won the Nobel Physics Prize for his work in precisely defining and quantifying the human energy fields.)

In the everyday sense of the word, the Harmony Chip doesn’t DO anything, i.e. it doesn’t seek to impose a given condition upon an existent system. All it really does is to dispose of accumulated trash and, thereby, to ALLOW the system with which it is in contact to express it’s own unique optimal function and purpose. It is this methodology whereby a tool (the Harmony Chip) does not have a particular objective but rather trusts that any system from which disturbances and confusion have been removed, will, of itself, improve in a natural way, that gives the Harmony Chip technology the astonishingly broad spectrum of applications partially seen on this website.

http://www2.harmonyunited.com/web/funktion.html
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The guy who writes the hype for Lifewave must be the same guy who writes this crud. Lots of “quantum physics” and “human energy fields” and the admission that:

“In the everyday sense of the word, the Harmony Chip doesn’t DO anything”

Just like the Lifewave patch!

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Posted: 28 August 2006 10:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Captain AL replied and Karma later assumes he is the first to mention the harmony chip:

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“Should you wish to express doubt about the existence of human energy fields, I would respectfully point out that, in 1984, Dr. Karlos Riebel from Switzerland won the Nobel Physics Prize for his work in precisely defining and quantifying the human energy fields.

The Harmony Chip is just another scam product that uses “truth by assocation” to claim legitimacy. These guys must be targeting the extremely gullible market. They must think no one would bother to verify the information in their ad.

It took all of 30 seconds on the Internet to find out a Carlo Rubbia (they couldn’t even copy his name right) won the 1984 Nobel Prize for Physics and that his research had absolutely nothing to do with a “human energy field”. A quick scan of his Nobel lecture confirms this. Also, he is Italian not Swiss.

I wonder if Mr. Rubbia knows his name is being used to promote this bogus product?

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Posted: 28 August 2006 10:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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And then somehow, Karma gets to read the LifeWave forum and mistakingly thinks Captain Al started the discussion of the harmony chip.

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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 | 03:33 PM
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear,
pseudo journalism to the fore. Capt. Al (11 Jan 2006) seems to think that a dictation error disproves the whole of Quantum Field Theory!

In dictation, Carlo Rubbia was mis-heard by a German speaking person as Karlos Riebel (an error long since corrected). This is all that this pseudo-journalist has got right, however.

What he doesn’t know is that Switzerland has three distinct language groups (German, French and Italian) and that Dr. Rubbia is an Italian Swiss.

Further, his meagre knowledge of the procedures and traditions of the Swedish Academy (the ones who award the Nobel Prizes) has lead him even further from reality: It is a tradition that the acceptance “lecture” is not about the research which won the Nobel Prize (quite likely to be several years old) but is, rather, an opportunity to present to the World the progress in the prize winner’s current research.

As Mr. Smith doesn’t give any address or even a telephone number on his website (sic!) it is a little problematical to deliver the summons for libel. Not impossible, however.

So you now have a choice:
You can take a serious look at a revolution in mankind’s technology - do take some time for there are over one thousand pages on the website - or you can believe that a spelling mistake negates 22 years research and development and the experiences of thousands of users of the technology World-wide.
You may believe anything you like - it doesn’t have to be true. Only knowledge need be true!

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Harmony United Ltd
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Blog: http://hu.blog.getinharmony.com

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Posted: 28 August 2006 10:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Captain Al tries to clarify the situation:

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Karma Singh said:
“pseudo journalism to the fore. Capt. Al (11 Jan 2006) seems to think that a dictation error disproves the whole of Quantum Field Theory!”

Strawman argument. My comments were in reference to your beloved Harmony Chip, not Quantum Field Theory. Your snake oil pseudo-product has nothing to do with quantum anything. And I do know Switzerland has three language groups. And unlike you, I also know Dr. Rubbia is Italian. A quote from Dr. Rubbia’s autobiography on the Nobel website:

“I was born in the small town of Gorizia, Italy, on 31 March, 1934.”

Mr. Singh, you expect us to believe your cheap piece of plastic can cure illness, fix cars and improve athletic performance as well as relationships? And you expect us to believe Quantum Field Theory proves the existance of a god? (No really! He actually says all this on his website.) At least the Lifewave guys know their product is a scam.

Perhaps your ego is so inflated you actually believe you know something about applying advanced atomic theory and making a product with it. I would venture to say you don’t know jack shit about physics. Readers, check out Who is Karma Singh? on his website. It says nothing about any university education or scientific credentials yet he claims to be part of something that is turning the scientific world on its head. If that’s so, why is the Harmony Chip world limited to one cheap website? Hardly revolutionary. And in true Lifewave fashion, it says nothing about any research facility. Wouldn’t a legitimate high-tech company show off pictures of researchers wearing white coats working in the lab using millions of dollars worth of scientific equipment? Not so with the Harmony Chip. Maybe you don’t want us to know your “lab” is just a room in the basement where you burn incense.

“As Mr. Smith doesn’t give any address or even a telephone number on his website (sic!) it is a little problematical to deliver the summons for libel. Not impossible, however.”

Gee, I’m scared. I don’t know much about law, but isn’t libel writing things about people that aren’t true? I welcome the opportunity to defend myself in public. Please, I be beg you, do it! That would force you to prove your product works, which you can’t do, and make a great addition the James Randi weekly commentary.

My question still stands. Does Dr. Rubbia know you are using his name and reputation to promote the Harmony Chip? Perhaps I should contact him at the University of Pavia and ask.

Update: I actually found Dr. Rubbia’s phone number at Pavia University’s Department of Nuclear and Theoretical Physics. Anybody here speak Italian?

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Posted: 28 August 2006 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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The debate continued on the LIFEWAVE Hoax Forum

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/forum/forum_comments/2526/P2960/


Hence me starting this thread. Good job I haven’t studied Quantum Physics.

Cheers everyone,

Dave
EDH UK

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Posted: 28 August 2006 11:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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From the Harmony Chip website at http://www.harmonyunited.com/web/en/water/swimming-pools.html:

SWIMMING POOLS

For your swimming pool tape a Harmony Chip to the return pipe to the filter pump. If you use an automatic system for adding chemicals, experience has shown that the dramatic improvement in the water quality will more than halve the amount of chemicals required, i.e. in much less than one season you will have recouped the entire cost of the Harmony Chip and it is guaranteed to work for at least 10 years!!

Karma, I’ll bet you could make a ton of money selling this chip in pool supply stores.  Which of the major swimming pool supply stores and catalogs carry this chip?  Any minor ones?

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Posted: 28 August 2006 11:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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EDHUK, I took the liberty of adding a link to Harmony United to your first post so it would be easier for people to find and check out.

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Posted: 28 August 2006 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Yay a new harmony chip thread!  Let the discussion began!

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Posted: 28 August 2006 12:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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As you can see, I even updated my signature to reflect this new thread.  I felt a new quote was needed.

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Posted: 28 August 2006 12:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Discussion?  Don’t you mean -

“It’s a scam.”

“No it isn’t, you just don’t understand.”

“I understand perfectly well.  You’re misusing scientific terms to give your product an air of authenticity.  It’s still a scam.”

“I’m going to post vague ramblings and insults for a few days, then say I have better things to do than argue with you lot.”

“Been nice knowing you.”

“The truth will win out.”

“That’s why we’re hoping for.”

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Posted: 28 August 2006 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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More questions on swimming pools for Karma:

“The Harmony Chip doesn’t DO anything, i.e. it doesn’t seek to impose a given condition upon an existent system. All it really does is to dispose of accumulated trash and, thereby, to ALLOW the system with which it is in contact to express it’s own unique optimal function and purpose.”  http://www.harmonyunited.com/web/us/nuts_and_bolts.html

Karma, if the Harmony chip allows the system with which it is in contact to express its own unique optimal function and purpose, wouldn’t your plastic chip IMPROVE the health of algea in the swimming pool and give it more ability to fend off toxins, which would cause a swimming pool to actually need MORE hypochloride and muriatic acid to kill the Harmony-chip-enhanced algea colonies?  Or does does quantum physics work the opposite way for algae than it does for humans? 

More generally, which life forms does a Harmony Chip hurt, and which life forms does it help, and how do you know?  Where are the research papers that I can look up in the laboratory to confirm what you’re saying?  I mean, I wouldn’t want to get one of your plastic chips near my hamster if it kills hamsters like it does algea.

Many thanks in advance for your thoughtful reply,
Joel

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