Yes I think immigration is flattering, IF the immigrants want to come to your country to be part of it….a different perspective though is if the ‘immigrants’ are your own folks and they are leaving this country. There have been some interesting reports on Americans changing citizenship and immigranting to other countries, while MANY immigrants to the United States do not intend to become citizens here, they just want the benefits that can be gleaned.
I personally know quite a few folks who have citizenships in several European countries as well as Canada and Mexico and ALL are adamant about retaining their own citizenships. They are rather vocal about having absolutely no intention of becoming another ‘American Fool’. If I consider this, I’m no longer flattered.
If they’re leaving your country, then they’re <i>emigrants</i>.
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On the other hand, these people running away and hiding seems like the best option for everyone. We’d rather keep the ones who actually care about the country and are trying to do something to change it.
If people are leaving your country, from your point of view they would be ‘emigrants’ rather than ‘immigrants’.
Yes, you’re right, I don’t think I stated that well, meaning that the other countries to which they immigrated they would be immigrants emigrating from here…......okay, now I am tongue twisted.
I do agree that I’d like to keep the guys that really want to be here as equal partners in citizenship and that means all the liabilities as well as the perks (though I believe some of the perks America once seemed to offer are fading rapidly).
Truthfully, I also think that this globe is shrinking even more quickly than it seemed just a decade ago and I think that folks in many countries will begin to travel in and out of other countries on an ever speeding path according to the kinds of employment and other hospitable opportunities making themselves available.
I do envision that emigrating and immigrants will have a flux of faces and countries will one day be more viewed as neighbering provinces that will no longer require passports, visas or even citizenship at all since we will travel between, over and through each other as easily as we do local neighborhoods now.
I’ll make it easy:Since I was born in Canada, and live in the US, I emigrated from Canada, and immigrated to the US.
(I however have not yet taken citizenship 😛 Canada recognises dual citizenship, but the US does not, which means I would have to -under oath- give up my Canadian citizenship, any loyalty to Canada etc. I take those things very seriously, and don’t want to say something I am not sure I mean yet.)
Anyway, I feel it is ironic that for the last couple hundred years the US has set themselves up as a welcoming place - “Give us your tired & hungry” etc., but now the gov’t wants to throw that out of the window. Also… the wall that may be built would be between the US and Mexico, however, I’ve heard (no substantiation yet, sorry) that more illegal immigrants come through Canadian borders than Mexican borders. (I was one, kinda, so I could see that easily.) I know it is certainly much easier to come through Canada than it is Mexico, it’s a few hundred miles between checkpoints up there and it’s rather easy to get across away from a checkpoint. So the only solution would be to surround the whole bloody country with a wall. (And then I’d be leaving lol)
Besides, who are they going to get to build that wall? The only ones who would take the shitty job would be potential immigrants. 😉
I’ll make it easy:Since I was born in Canada, and live in the US, I emigrated from Canada, and immigrated to the US.
(I however have not yet taken citizenship 😛 Canada recognises dual citizenship, but the US does not, which means I would have to -under oath- give up my Canadian citizenship, any loyalty to Canada etc. I take those things very seriously, and don’t want to say something I am not sure I mean yet.)
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Besides, who are they going to get to build that wall? The only ones who would take the shitty job would be potential immigrants. 😉
The contemplated Wall will not be to keep folks out, but to keep people in. This government is insensed by Americans crossing the border into both Canada and Mexico in order to get prescription drugs or access to medical procedures that have both become either too costly here for a large proportion of the population or not available at all that might save lives. Some of these are being ordered from other countries and those who can travel abroad to get the medical procedures they needl. We are being increasingly threatened that this kind of activity will be (already is in some areas) illegal and penalties great.
But that is not the only reason for this ‘wall’ which may as well already be erected even though it cannot be seen.
Stay your citizenship in Canada, and if you can benefit by living here as well, by all means you should, just as we cross borders for access for what we may need even if we are being threatened by doing so. You are right…..it’s a ‘bloody’ wall.
Hulittons, prescription drugs from Canada and the UK are readily available on-line at excellent prices.
Perfectly legal, delivery guaranteed. (Well, I think perfectly legal.)
And over the counter drugs are often less expensive that way.
Dan the Country Doctor
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yes, a while ago I used one. It turned out to be located in Canada though they found prescribed drugs in other countries as well and had them shipped to you. It was legal at first and then the Bush administration starting raising hackles because, while they were giving those entering Canada from here a hard time, they couldn’t control the mail as easily. So those in Canada started sending in rather different packaging from varying sources.
The US ‘goverment’ began planting the idea that these drugs were not federally approved by FDA standards because they are manufactured abroad and suggested that they were therefore not safe for ‘American usage’ (and procedures from countries outside the USA also receive the same or similar critiques)
But prescriptions and medical procedures are only a tiny reason for this administration to be uncomfortable or vexed. Other legal goods are being purchased by individuals from beyond the borders as well and so are not subject to being taxed. So there has been tremendous pressure by US governments from Federal down to State level to find ways to control internet purchases or at least profit from them.
I also suspect, as do many other folks who live here (and through Europe as well), that immigrants provide a better labor base for larger businesses, even if the funds those employees earn leave these borders and are sent to families living in other countries. Specific groups, under duress, are more transient by design of their imposed life-styles and will not benefit from many employment ‘perks’. They can more easily be exploited because of their immediate need and because of their circumstances, they are unlikely to complain and are just as likely to disappear ‘at will’ so there is seldom a level of loyalty given them. Slavery, even if indentured or serf, is a commodity.
