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Posted: 14 December 2012 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Fuck You, Guns
Katie J.M. Baker

This is Fuck You Week, Jezebel’s first annual week of desperate emotional cleansing and unhinged psychic purging. And yeah, considering what happened today, we feel weird about it — but still. It’s relevant.

At least twenty-seven people including twenty little kids were massacred today at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut, according to the most recent reports. As of now, it’s the second-deadliest shooting in U.S. history. How could such a thing happen? Easily: Because we refuse to talk about gun control in this country. Actually, fuck the term “gun control”; we refuse to talk about how to prevent fucking massacres from happening over and over again thanks to how fucking simple it is for practically anyone to get their hands on some nifty automated mass murdering weapons. Fuck everyone who says today isn’t the time to politicize gun violence. Most of all, fuck the NRA and all of its political cronies. This is your fault.

Fuck you, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, for saying that “today is not that day” to discuss gun control. The only acceptable explanation for that statement is that you got cut off from saying, “because yesterday was.” Off the top of my head: this year’s Dark Night Rises shooting massacre in Aurora might have been an excellent time to bring up the topic! But, no, we had an election to take care of, and neither candidate wanted to tackle the 2nd Amendment some Americans hold so near and dear; Obama discussed gun control a total of 3 times on the campaign trail. 3 times.

We could’ve talked about it, oh, anytime in the past 13 years since Columbine, because there have been at least 31 school shootings in the U.S. since then. It’s a waste of our time to keep listing all of the times we could’ve talked about it; it’s easier just to say the time was then, the time is tomorrow, and the time is now.

Hey, White House: we know you’re trying to be respectful, but respect doesn’t mean shit to the dozens of families who just lost their little kids and loved ones. Respect them by starting the conversation right now. Start it tonight.

While we’re talking politics: Fuck you, all of the politicians who received money from the NRA last election cycle. Check them out here! Memorize their names and remember that they’re a massive part of the problem.

Fuck you, people who say, “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” Sorry, assholes, this isn’t the time for semantics. Guns are the tools that enable people who kill people to kill lots and lots of people with ease. And they’re fucking efficient. According to Mother Jones, which has done excellent research on this topic, there’s a clear relationship between the rise in civilian firearms and the rise in mass shootings; they counted two per year on average since 1982, and 24 of the 61 cases they looked at occurred after 2006. This year alone there have been six mass shootings with 110 people injured and killed, a record number. In 1995 there were about 200 million guns in the hands of average Joes and Joannes. Today, there are around 300 million. That’s a 50 percent jump. If you don’t think that guns have anything to do with the rise in mass shootings, you’re a fucking idiot.

Fuck you, people who say, “if only the good guys had guns.” Mother Jones, again bringing the awesome rationality and crucial data, analyzed 61 recent U.S. mass shootings and found that the killing wasn’t stopped by a civilian with a gun in any of those cases. It’s delusional to think that guns can help stop massacres like the one that happened today. Of course, people do think that; yesterday, the Michigan State Senate passed a law allowing concealed weapons in schools and daycares. No no no no no. Let’s stop pretending the “if everyone had a gun, everyone could protect themselves!” argument is worth considering. It’s obvious it doesn’t work, and it’s demonstrably dangerous to suggest otherwise. As in, hundreds of people are dying because we can’t have a real talk about guns.

Why can’t we? Because of the National Rifle Association. FUCK THE NRA. They’ve been having a successful and lucrative year, as this recent Bloomberg Businessweek piece points out; Republican-controlled legislatures in at least four states are considering allowing employees to bring guns to work, Florida will soon be the first state to have issued 1 million permits allowing people to conceal their firearms, and an Illinois law barring citizens from packing heat outside their home or business was struck down by a federal appeals court.

Since Obama got elected, “firearm manufacturers and their vocal ally, the National Rifle Association, have enjoyed an extraordinary boom, based heavily on fear marketing,” Businessweek reports:

  The industry pitch: Obama plans to restrict, if not confiscate, your guns. This has sent hundreds of thousands of people to their Main Street gun shop or firearm website, propelled by the notion that they better buy while they can. The twist is that while Obama occasionally murmurs about gun control, he has done nothing to make it more difficult to lawfully acquire or carry firearms. The president and his advisers fear a political backlash (and, on substance, may worry that tinkering with gun laws will not actually affect crime rates in a substantial way).

  The upshot: Gun sellers and promoters of gun rights are pushing further and further in an environment of seemingly endless possibilities for their side of the perennial debate over the wisdom and significance of packing heat.

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Posted: 14 December 2012 07:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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In the past four years, in 37 states, the NRA and their political BFFs have pushed through a whopping 99 laws making guns a cinch to buy, carry in public, and hide from the government.

When shooting massacres like today’s happen, the NRA basically just waits around until emotions aren’t so raw before its spokespeople start rambling on about self-defense. Then, the NRA waits around some more until Americans move onto some other outrage. They know Obama won’t do shit because they and their friends wield so much political power.

By the way, this was the NRA’s last tweet, earlier today: “10 Days of NRA Giveaways - Enter today for a chance to win an auto emergency tool!”

Fuck you, NRA. You guys are fucking murderers.

Today, we don’t need prayers. We don’t need thoughts. We need action. We need to politicize this, and we need to politicize this now. Fuck everyone who isn’t ready to talk about gun control. You’re the reason 27 people (and counting) died today. Don’t forget it.

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Posted: 14 December 2012 10:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I have to admit I’m getting sick of reading about these massacres. We have a form of gun control here in Australia and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. I don’t see why that doesn’t exist in the US.

It’s about the right to walk down the street knowing that only people with valid reasons to use guns are meant to have them.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 06:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 15 December 2012 10:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/opinion/collins-looking-for-america.html?emc=eta1

.......and the world has come to regard us — as a country that’s so gun happy that the right to traffic freely in the most obscene quantities of weapons is regarded as far more precious than an American’s right to health care or a good education.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 10:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Well, here’s the thing:

At almost the exact same time, over in China, a crazed man attacked and wounded 22 children in a school.

With a knife.

China has NO gun ownership, and even requires ID to purchase a large knife. If a crazy wants to hurt people, then they will find a way.

This is NOT a gun control issue. This is a crazy issue. This is proof we need to worry about the mental health and stability of our citizens.

After all, if we were all sane and well-adjusted, we wouldn’t need guns, right?

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Posted: 15 December 2012 01:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Robin Bobcat - 15 December 2012 10:39 AM

Well, here’s the thing:

At almost the exact same time, over in China, a crazed man attacked and wounded 22 children in a school.

With a knife.

China has NO gun ownership, and even requires ID to purchase a large knife. If a crazy wants to hurt people, then they will find a way.

This is NOT a gun control issue. This is a crazy issue. This is proof we need to worry about the mental health and stability of our citizens.

The big difference is that all the 22 children in China SURVIVED the attack.

A knife simply is not as effective and deadly as a semi-automatic gun. You can even successfully defend yourself against an attacker with a knife, even if you are unarmed. A knife cannot kill on distance. Guns do.

A knife is a normal kitchen utility, a gun isn’t. Our daily life would be problematic without knives. We can do perfectly without guns, as an average citizen.

It IS GUNS that are a major part of the problem in the US (that, and your socio-economic system. See Mark Ames book “Going Postal”).

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Posted: 15 December 2012 01:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Swords to ploughshares

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Posted: 15 December 2012 02:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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LaMa - 15 December 2012 01:41 PM
Robin Bobcat - 15 December 2012 10:39 AM

Well, here’s the thing:

At almost the exact same time, over in China, a crazed man attacked and wounded 22 children in a school.

With a knife.

China has NO gun ownership, and even requires ID to purchase a large knife. If a crazy wants to hurt people, then they will find a way.

This is NOT a gun control issue. This is a crazy issue. This is proof we need to worry about the mental health and stability of our citizens.

The big difference is that all the 22 children in China SURVIVED the attack.

A knife simply is not as effective and deadly as a semi-automatic gun. You can even successfully defend yourself against an attacker with a knife, even if you are unarmed. A knife cannot kill on distance. Guns do.

A knife is a normal kitchen utility, a gun isn’t. Our daily life would be problematic without knives. We can do perfectly without guns, as an average citizen.

It IS GUNS that are a major part of the problem in the US (that, and your socio-economic system. See Mark Ames book “Going Postal”).

I prefer Terry Pratchett’s ‘Going Postal’ instead…

But yes, I’m not saying that guns aren’t a big portion of the problem. I’m saying that the issue is that if someone wants to go on a rampage, they’re gonna go on a rampage, guns or not. Guns just make it easy and effective. We need to stop the ‘going on a rampage’ part.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 04:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Robin Bobcat - 15 December 2012 02:50 PM

I prefer Terry Pratchett’s ‘Going Postal’ instead…

But yes, I’m not saying that guns aren’t a big portion of the problem. I’m saying that the issue is that if someone wants to go on a rampage, they’re gonna go on a rampage, guns or not. Guns just make it easy and effective. We need to stop the ‘going on a rampage’ part.

I’m sorry to selective bold that sentence (as well as do a selective quote) but do we really want the crazy’s to have an easy and effective way to go on a rampage?

Of course something should be done about “crazy people”. The standard of mental health care should be examined. But there is nothing wrong with looking at the issue of gun control.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 06:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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let’s then go back to:  “........quantities of weapons is regarded as far more precious than an American’s right to health care or a good education”——then examine the need for good health care and wonder if maybe the ‘crazy’ might have gotten care if he/she could afford it or HAD health care insurance.

Then let’s look at the kinds of guns these people had on them which appears to be far more than a single individual needs to ‘defend’ themselves.  Also, the guns were part of the family’s desire to defend and one of those defensive weapons was used against the family member before the rest occurred, obliterating her face…..but of course, there were other guns so why didn’t she ‘defend’ herself?  Most of us are not soldiers, we are not policemen, we are ordinary people working in many other kinds of professions.

Third, if ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’ perhaps guns too are being victimized.  If that’s the case, let’s leave guns alone to live their lives in peace because, apparently, when we humans pick them up, well, we use them.

And by the way, one area of Texas has decided to make sure other children in schools are not so unprotected.  They’ve decided to have certain teachers in the school packing.  I am viewing that school district as a quiet battle ground waiting to erupt and the most innocent being caught now in crossfire in BOTH directions, not just one.

I would be pulling my children out of these schools and homeschooling them.

Mark Ames gave a painfully interesting interview about his book some time ago.  I read down through the interview and found his ideas very enlightening:  http://www.alternet.org/story/24796/a_brief_history_of_rage,_murder_and_rebellion

There is a lot wrong with this country.  I was befuddled when I arrived back here and remain thusly stunned.

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Posted: 16 December 2012 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Americans need to seriously think about the fact that these things happen much more frequently and severely in the US than in any other western country. Why?

I think the answers are in the combination of gun availability and your socio-political system.

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