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Posted: 08 September 2012 06:10 PM
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I ask because this is a very big subject. Can a person see an object in another persons life? Can a person feel anothers pain and hear their thoughts. Is a person able to connect a person with their past life? Is there any real study that can prove or not prove this. Why do people come running when a person post I would like to practice reading people? Why would you want a read when they already know the stuff a reader is telling them. There are many questions that I hope this site can help me with. I would like to be part of a group to prove or disapprove all of these things. If this is an option on here to do something like this? Thanks

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Posted: 08 September 2012 06:19 PM   [ # 1 ]
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I have been on many sites and have seen readers read people and they have come up with interesting info about the person they are reading. Plus how can a reader read a person and not even know their real name or sex? And I have seen skeptics change the way they think about psychics and some will never agree about psychics.

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Posted: 08 September 2012 06:33 PM   [ # 2 ]
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Interestingly I recently saw a youtube video where it was stated that with Quantum Entanglement if you could get all the atoms in 2 brains to vibrate in exactly the same way the 2 people involved could read each others minds. If I find the video again I’ll post it’s url.

However the world record for that is only 3 atoms apparently. So at this stage it seems impossible.

EDIT. Michio Kaku’s video “Telepathy is easier than you think” is here. Make of it what you will.

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Posted: 08 September 2012 08:56 PM   [ # 3 ]
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I have seen in reads where two individuals hit on future past and present. I can post these reads because I have copies of the tests. I have past life tests and remote viewing tests and mind reading tests.

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Posted: 08 September 2012 09:02 PM   [ # 4 ]
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I would be glad to participate in any testing on this site from remote viewing to mind reading. I feel if a person opens up and really puts time in they can actually read anothers persons mind or some would say see thru their eyes. The only reason why I am saying this because I would like to try this. I believe I have studied it enough to maybe be able to actually perform it. But I would like to work on only one person for as long as it takes to make some sense out of it. Not a reading board an experimental board.

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Posted: 08 September 2012 09:25 PM   [ # 5 ]
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What methodology would you use? I am skeptical about a test being performed over the web.

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Posted: 08 September 2012 11:23 PM   [ # 6 ]
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I´ve been thinking too.

You want us to train you, so you can claim the JREF-prize?
Ok. So what´s the deal? I mean what´s in it for us if you win?

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Posted: 09 September 2012 08:05 AM   [ # 7 ]
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Ok then is there anyone on this site that live in the state of Michigan. That would be willing to to some kind of real testing in a group or single person atmosphere. It is not about money, it is truelly to prove a person can read anothers mind or see things thousands of miles away. I am willing to spend what ever time a person or group would need to prove this. Or stir me to a college or person who really will take this serious. I could look all day but will I find a true person that wants to research this. I see the battle psychic against skeptic. I am not really into the psychic name I a into the mind reading and having images appear to me. Spirit guides people talk about am I getting this info from a guide? I do not know because I can not see or touch this guide or have I open up more of my mind using more than the ten percent we use. So off to being able to read anothers thoughts dreams or seeing things another see’s. Like I said I am willing to be tested in any way in person or on the net. I live in Michigan and I have had many people wonder how I do my job and talk to them at the same time putting hundreds of numbers in a computer. I feel I can seperate my mind into two minds when I do my job. Thanks

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Posted: 09 September 2012 09:59 AM   [ # 8 ]
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Not about money?

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Posted: 09 September 2012 11:09 AM   [ # 9 ]
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Let me explain this to you. If I was able to read a mind then I could help people to connect with their missing loved one or losted loved one by reading info they know about the person. For instance Stan chewed tobacco. I would say I see he loved to chew tobacco. I did not communicate with the dead but I read their mind. So if I wanted to make money I could very easily. So reading a persons mind can open up a lot of ways to make money because they might thing I am communicating with the dead.

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Posted: 09 September 2012 11:23 AM   [ # 10 ]
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The Wanderer - 09 September 2012 11:09 AM

Let me explain this to you. If I was able to read a mind then I could help people to connect with their missing loved one or losted loved one by reading info they know about the person. For instance Stan chewed tobacco. I would say I see he loved to chew tobacco. I did not communicate with the dead but I read their mind. So if I wanted to make money I could very easily. So reading a persons mind can open up a lot of ways to make money because they might thing I am communicating with the dead.

Ok. Fine. Because I sense with my empathic powers, that you are sincere, I advice you to mail to James Randi, explaining you don´t want any money, but only wanted to be tested and any money you might have won goes to, let´s say, the Red Cross. (You are free to give it to any cancer fighting or any real disease fighting agency of your choice. I mean, what´s a million bucks to you.) You are real remember. I know because I feel that about you.

And than come back here with the outcome of the test and if succesful the money transfer slip to show it went to the Red Cross (or something real usefull).

And than and only than you might be worth a bit more of my attention span.

So, good luck!

See you not very soon (remember, I have powers, so I know you´ll be gone now).

 

 

 

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Posted: 09 September 2012 01:09 PM   [ # 11 ]
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Depends on where you mean in Michigan… I live there… but of course the state is 96,716 sq mi in area.

Oh yeah - I am pretty sceptical about mind reading, psychics, “past lives”, and remote viewing.

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Posted: 09 September 2012 03:05 PM   [ # 12 ]
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I know of no basis where one mind can actually (physically) connect with another.  However, empathically almost all people can understand and respond to subtle clues either seen, written, or heard audibly and make some pretty accurate determinations.  [Those who ‘profile’ for example, by observation.]

Connecting with past, future, or even other dimensional lives, well there is no actual physics to indicate this with accuracy though perhaps one day there might be.

I suggest looking for like-kind studies being done by different think-tank groups gravitating in this direction for guidance and participation.

Certainly your search is fairly common among human beings seeking for some kind of proof or substance beyond mortal existence throughout the ages.  The search and even inklings give comfort.

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Posted: 09 September 2012 03:30 PM   [ # 13 ]
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Posted: 09 September 2012 05:55 PM   [ # 14 ]
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Perhaps this would be a good group to contact:  http://www.americanassociationofpsychics.com/Psychics_in_Michigan.php

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Posted: 10 September 2012 03:30 AM   [ # 15 ]
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http://www.randi.org/ Would be better, probably more objective at least.

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Posted: 10 September 2012 03:45 AM   [ # 16 ]
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Mr R - 10 September 2012 03:30 AM

http://www.randi.org/ Would be better, probably more objective at least.

Did you say “probably”? Sorry, I think my skepticism is showing.

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Posted: 11 September 2012 01:07 AM   [ # 17 ]
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Well I can’t vouch for them, but I would expect the Randi Organisation to have a more objective view of things and show a willingness to test something scientifically compared to an organisation called the American Association of Psychics, who appear to already hold the opinion that psychic ability exists as indicated in the name of their organisation. I expect their test is like that in South Park, you need to pay them a subsciption fee and that confirms you as a psychic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartman’s_Incredible_Gift

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Posted: 11 September 2012 01:58 AM   [ # 18 ]
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hulitoons - 09 September 2012 03:05 PM

I know of no basis where one mind can actually (physically) connect with another.  However, empathically almost all people can understand and respond to subtle clues either seen, written, or heard audibly and make some pretty accurate determinations.  [Those who ‘profile’ for example, by observation.]

Connecting with past, future, or even other dimensional lives, well there is no actual physics to indicate this with accuracy though perhaps one day there might be.

I suggest looking for like-kind studies being done by different think-tank groups gravitating in this direction for guidance and participation.

Certainly your search is fairly common among human beings seeking for some kind of proof or substance beyond mortal existence throughout the ages.  The search and even inklings give comfort.

Did you watch this Youtube video? It’s quite interesting.

Peter - 08 September 2012 06:33 PM

Interestingly I recently saw a youtube video where it was stated that with Quantum Entanglement if you could get all the atoms in 2 brains to vibrate in exactly the same way the 2 people involved could read each others minds. If I find the video again I’ll post it’s url.

However the world record for that is only 3 atoms apparently. So at this stage it seems impossible.

EDIT. Michio Kaku’s video “Telepathy is easier than you think” is here. Make of it what you will.

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Posted: 11 September 2012 02:44 AM   [ # 19 ]
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Well, without getting into any debate over whether or not psychic powers are real or not, it sounds like you at least want to test to make sure.

The secret is to have a test that proves it without anyone being able to influence the test. The term you want for proof is ‘Independant Double-Blind Study’. By Independant, we mean that the test is conducted by people who have no vested interest in the outcome. By Double-Blind, we mean that neither the tester nor the testee knows what the results are until all the data is collected.

Here is an example of such a test. Suppose your power is to determine if someone is thinking of a wombat.

The subject is seated at a chair at a table across from you. They know that a psychic test of some sort is being performed, but they do not know what is being tested for. Behind a small screen, out of your sight, is a small deck of cards. Each card has a picture of an animal on it (or other objects - chair, bicycle, Van Gogh’s Starry Night, etc). The person conducting the test has randomly shuffled the deck, and has no idea what order they are in. For additional obfuscation, the deck is cut, and only half of the cards are used.The subject looks at the top card in the deck, thinks about the subject for a determined amount of time, then places it in another pile. You record on a list of numbers whether or not you thought they were thinking of a wombat at that time. When the deck is depleted, the tester then examines the discards, and records which cards were drawn and in what order. This is repeated multiple times, with multiple subjects. When a sufficient number of subjects have been tested (more is better!), then the results are compared with the predictions.

Of course, this is a simplified method, but should suffice for preliminary testing.

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Posted: 11 September 2012 05:21 AM   [ # 20 ]
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Read me. You don´t know me. Never seen me. Heard me. etc.

And I can check very quickly if what you´ve found comes from the interwebz or not.

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I´ve pressed my thumb on the screen between the stars, so you have a startingpoint.

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Posted: 11 September 2012 09:09 AM   [ # 21 ]
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The only problem I have with your method Robin is that both the subject and the agent are aware a ‘test’ is being given.  A true clarivoyant would not need to know or shouldn’t even know (upon testing from the outside) that such a ‘test’ is being administered.

It IS known that there are times (I’ve even experienced this) that something ‘feels’ when entering areas of a room or walking past a building etc. (this is of course perhaps general the way I’m describing it) BUT there have been times when I know the feeling is fear, or terror, or pain or loss.  I can even, from the outside of a building I’ve never seen before or ever been inside, pinpoint the exact location.  MANY people can do this, and in their case and mine, we move either quickly from the area or are gravitated toward it.  This is commonly called ‘gut feeling’ or even ‘woman’s intuition’ (which doesn’t explain it at all I know)

When using animals in mazes, the subjects don’t ‘understand’ that a test is being given or what the test means.

The subject (human) person of any test should NOT be aware that a test is being administered or else a certain kind of lottery or poker odds game, intellectional profiling becomes part of the reaction.

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Posted: 11 September 2012 02:13 PM   [ # 22 ]
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True, Huli.. But you can’t make a solid determination without *some* sort of test. Otherwise, you lurk in the dark limbo that is favored by those who want their abilities taken on their word alone. With a proper double-blind, the subject does not know what is being tested, and the person administering the test does not know what the subject is being given until after data is collected.

If you can’t test it, then does it exist? Why would it being part of a test influence anything?

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As long as the ‘subject’ isn’t aware he/she is being tested.  That’s the most important element.  OR what kind of session to which they are contributing.  The subject needs to be basically ‘blind’.

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Posted: 12 September 2012 11:40 AM   [ # 24 ]
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Nonono, Huli. That’s not what Double-blind means. They can be aware they’re tested, jsut so long as they aren’t aware of exactly what aspect of it is being tested.

You can even perform it with a willing accomplice: Someone who knows what is being tested (ability to detect someone thinking of wombats) and wants it to work. They sit on one side of a screen, and think about wombats as much as possible. Three people enter, on the other side of the screen. Accomplice does not know which of them are the psychic, keeps thinking ‘wombatswombatswombatsohgodIlovemesomewombats’ as hard as they can. Meanwhile, those same three people are led past nine other screens, some of which have people thinking other things, others which have nobody behind them. The psychic records which screens he thinks have people thinking about wombats. Once they are done, the people (and lack therof) is shuffled around, as is the order of the three folks walking through.

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I do understand what you’re saying Robin, however, we know that the subject(s) are already advised that a ‘term’ is being thought of by someone on the other side.  (I understand well these kinds of tests and I object to them).

That’s too much information.  The subject has a lottery of guesses or odds.  That’s what I don’t like.  I prefer a test where the subject has no idea, preconceived ideas or the ability to make ‘guesses’ at all.

There are tests where the subject is told, for example that they are going to count something, when in fact they are being tested for something else entirely, like color or an idea.

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Posted: 12 September 2012 07:37 PM   [ # 26 ]
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Hi, you all are really helping me. I want to do a test where no one can say I found the info on the web or anywhere. I have an idea. If you all on here would come up with a story from your past and a dream from your past and info about a past loved one for each person and post it somewhere in a post and lock it so I can not get to. And then I would try to pick as much stuff thru your thoughts and dreams and hopefully thru a past loved one. Or something like that. And when I get done reading which might take me awhile then we can compare the read with the info.
And all I would need is your name on the site. No real names.

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I’m not sure what you mean.  Here on this forum you have our avatar names, but there is no way to type out a story and keep it secret here.  Each of us has our own blog elsewhere but then you’d know who we are.  So I’m unsure how to do this.  Maybe Robin would have an idea?  If nothing else it would be fun.

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Posted: 13 September 2012 06:36 PM   [ # 28 ]
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You are in the area, but still a fair distance from me (an hour away)

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Posted: 13 September 2012 07:14 PM   [ # 29 ]
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Do I know you Five Star Member. I can read any person on here and this post will blow up very fast with the on target info. But then I would be a reader on another site. Which I do not care to do. Or I could remote view everyones home. The key here is to be pretty exact about what ever the test will be. You can say any name to me and I will pick up the energy of the person asking and the name given. So what ever we can work out it will be very interesting. I do this for my family I will have them pick a name out of history and I will give details about the person not knowing anything about them. Or I will hand them a book off a shelf and say open any page and I will give you info about it. I am really in tune to what ever I put my mind to do. I will wait patiently for a test. Thanks

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He killled Goliath.

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David

He killled Goliath.

Maybe you should confirm that with David himself.

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Here is a name, not me but a person I have encountered. A simple test, he uses a different name in public but what is it? I’m not looking for other details just his other name.

Mervyn Shute

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Posted: 14 September 2012 04:00 AM   [ # 34 ]
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Well, I now know that neither Peter nor Mr. R are clairvoyant

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I sent a written synopsis to myself here in a PM (private message) so the ‘story’ is here on the forum, just not in sight for anyone but myself.

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Posted: 16 September 2012 04:04 PM   [ # 36 ]
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Hulitoons, I will try to see what you have written very soon. Thank You

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