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Posted: 09 May 2012 10:48 PM   [ Ignore ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/18001930

‘Ghost town’ being built in US to test new technologies

A ‘ghost town’ is being built in America to test out the latest technologies such as renewable energies and terrorism security systems.

It’ll look just like a city with roads, houses and buildings - but no one will live there.

Scientists want to use it to see the effects of new technology in a ‘real world’ setting.

It’s being built in Lea County, New Mexico, and will cost around £600 million.

Big tech company Pegasus Global Holdings is behind the project.

Anything from smart grids and next-generation wireless networks to self-flushing toilets could be tested in the new town.

“The only thing we won’t be doing is destructive testing, blowing things up - I hope,” said Robert Brumley from Pegasus.

Work is due to begin on the town at the end of June.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 02:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I’m not sure how it can be a ‘real world” setting without people, pets, traffic and all the mundane things going on it. If you don’t have those things affecting the environment and things you’re testing I fail to see how it would be much different that laboratory testing.

Though I bet it will become a movie set, too, for times when a real city can’t be shut down for filming. Probably cheaper, too.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 03:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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They could save some money and use one of Ireland’s existing ghost estates.

http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Guerrilla-gardeners-attack-Irelands-bleak-empty-ghost-estates-144871625.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_estate

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Posted: 10 May 2012 05:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Ah yes, “The Experts”.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 05:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Will it have a fridge where Indy can hide in?

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Posted: 10 May 2012 06:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Gosh Mr R, that’s actually pretty depressing, along with the empty ghost town discussed here, when you know there are so many people losing their homes and the homeless population growing.

Back during the Great Depression this was very common.  You’d have entire apartment buildings boarded up or whole neighborhoods with homes boarded up, not because there was anything wrong with them, but because people couldn’t afford to pay rent or buy.  You had nice buildings and rooms standing empty while people sat on street curbs out in the elements or just wandering from one town to the next as hobos while shelter rotted.

How stupid can humans get?

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Posted: 10 May 2012 10:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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hulitoons - 10 May 2012 06:30 AM

How stupid can humans get?

Read almost any history book. Read almost any newspaper. Look out of almost any window, even.

You don’t really want to know the answer to your question, do you?

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Posted: 10 May 2012 10:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Surprise me.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 08:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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hulitoons - 10 May 2012 06:30 AM

Gosh Mr R, that’s actually pretty depressing, along with the empty ghost town discussed here, when you know there are so many people losing their homes and the homeless population growing.

Back during the Great Depression this was very common.  You’d have entire apartment buildings boarded up or whole neighborhoods with homes boarded up, not because there was anything wrong with them, but because people couldn’t afford to pay rent or buy.  You had nice buildings and rooms standing empty while people sat on street curbs out in the elements or just wandering from one town to the next as hobos while shelter rotted.

How stupid can humans get?

Ask the question “how much is a life worth?” Things that appear in the social contract we have with society don’t seem to figure in economics. Yet the social contract exists and it allows our society to function.

What’s needed is a baseline ultrabudget form of dwelling that can be supplied by governments to shelter the homeless.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 08:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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hulitoons - 10 May 2012 06:30 AM

Gosh Mr R, that’s actually pretty depressing, along with the empty ghost town discussed here, when you know there are so many people losing their homes and the homeless population growing.

Back during the Great Depression this was very common.  You’d have entire apartment buildings boarded up or whole neighborhoods with homes boarded up, not because there was anything wrong with them, but because people couldn’t afford to pay rent or buy.  You had nice buildings and rooms standing empty while people sat on street curbs out in the elements or just wandering from one town to the next as hobos while shelter rotted.

How stupid can humans get?

Ask the question “how much is a life worth?” Things that appear in the social contract we have with society don’t seem to figure in economics. Yet the social contract exists and it allows our society to function.

What’s needed is a baseline ultrabudget form of dwelling that can be supplied by governments to shelter the homeless.

Recycled cargo containers come to mind.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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gray - 10 May 2012 08:48 PM
Peter - 10 May 2012 08:37 PM
hulitoons - 10 May 2012 06:30 AM

Gosh Mr R, that’s actually pretty depressing, along with the empty ghost town discussed here, when you know there are so many people losing their homes and the homeless population growing.

Back during the Great Depression this was very common.  You’d have entire apartment buildings boarded up or whole neighborhoods with homes boarded up, not because there was anything wrong with them, but because people couldn’t afford to pay rent or buy.  You had nice buildings and rooms standing empty while people sat on street curbs out in the elements or just wandering from one town to the next as hobos while shelter rotted.

How stupid can humans get?

Ask the question “how much is a life worth?” Things that appear in the social contract we have with society don’t seem to figure in economics. Yet the social contract exists and it allows our society to function.

What’s needed is a baseline ultrabudget form of dwelling that can be supplied by governments to shelter the homeless.

Recycled cargo containers come to mind.

I think it would need to be much cheaper than that. What’s need is some creative ideas possibly from university or college students. Maybe something produced from a waste product or a plant that can be cheaply grown to be used for creating dwellings. It would need almost Third World (but sanitary) style communal plumbing.

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Posted: 10 May 2012 09:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Peter - 10 May 2012 08:52 PM
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Peter - 10 May 2012 08:37 PM

What’s needed is a baseline ultrabudget form of dwelling that can be supplied by governments to shelter the homeless.

Recycled cargo containers come to mind.

I think it would need to be much cheaper than that. What’s need is some creative ideas possibly from university or college students. Maybe something produced from a waste product or a plant that can be cheaply grown to be used for creating dwellings. It would need almost Third World (but sanitary) style communal plumbing.

There has been talk off and on about taking all of these mothballed or decommissioned navy ships and converting them into housing.  Just think of how many people you could fit into an average aircraft carrier. . .and you could even lay down sod on the flight deck and have a nice little park there!

Apparently, though, the cost of converting it and making it safe and maintaining it is too much to make it a worthwhile plan.

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