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Disappointed with my country so I’m changing citizenship…..
Posted: 07 March 2012 07:05 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I have decided to change citizenship….of course I don’t know where I’d like to belong. Anyone up to creating a new country with me?  I posted this on FB too but the only response has been my own:  there will be NO Republicans OR Democrats…actually no polititians…..AND no religions permitted.

I’m still deciding what to have and not have….........

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Posted: 07 March 2012 08:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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... you have adequately described North Korea.


Personally, I’ve thought about what would be necessary for a Sealand-type micronation. Lots of little barren islands out there in the Pacific. Most of them have owners, of course, but if you wanted to set up shop on one, there probably wouldn’t be much objections. Make sure you build well enough to not get swept out to sea if there’s a tsunami or hurricane, though.

 

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Posted: 07 March 2012 08:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Or just catch a ride on a rocket ship?  You know, and just keep going…..

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Posted: 08 March 2012 02:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Also thought about it a lot. Sadly, getting any sort of reasonable quality of life (or even long-term sustainability) would be prohibitively expensive. All the more reason to start sending people up there, I suppose. Let’s start mining those asteroids, people!

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Posted: 08 March 2012 04:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Watch out on The Moon… I own quite a large part.

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Posted: 08 March 2012 06:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Unfairly Balanced - 08 March 2012 04:12 AM

Watch out on The Moon… I own quite a large part.

There is actually an asteroid that was officially named after me (by the International Astronomical Union) but I don’t think that entitles me to ownership. I also discovered 59 asteroids. Wonder whether I could claim one of them (the telescope used was American however, so there might be a snag).

Robin Bobcat - 07 March 2012 08:06 PM

Lots of little barren islands out there in the Pacific. Most of them have owners, of course, but if you wanted to set up shop on one, there probably wouldn’t be much objections.

I think you are wrong there. Islands legitimate claims on sea territory, including fishing rights and mineral resources rights around them. So the nations that own them tend to be protective of them, even if it is a mere 10 meter wide windswept barren rock.

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Posted: 08 March 2012 06:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Regarding Pacific islands: before WWII, there were a number of Utopian movements that involved attempts by groups to settle on Pacific islands. Some of these attempts resulted in dramas.

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Posted: 08 March 2012 09:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Right, well, I’m not saying occupying them illegitimately. I’m saying telling the governments that you’re gonna go out to *their* little bit of rock and improve it. Since they arent likely to mine it or do any fishing off it, you’re in the clear to put up whatever you like. Couple buildings, airstrip, small casino…

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Posted: 08 March 2012 12:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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If I was going to leave conventional society to join anyone’s new community, it would be to join your’s. But, the thing that would worry me is this;

hulitoons - 07 March 2012 07:05 PM

AND no religions permitted.

I’m no fan of religion. Not that I’m particularly against it. But I am for freedom of belief. What if I had an epiphany and wanted to convert in the future? I wouldn’t want to be a part of any society that would prohibit that. Also, what if I decide I believe in ghosts, or advanced aliens governing our development, or nature spirits? Do any of these fantasies qualify as “religion” because they involve belief in the unprovable?

There is so much I can’t stand about our modern way of life. I’ve often wondered how I’d “reshape” society. I usually realise that banning most of the things that seem counter productive would lead to my becoming a tyrant. Many of our problems are down to freedom of belief and expression…and accepting those problems while maintaining that freedom is the greatest achievement of the western world.

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Posted: 08 March 2012 12:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Paul Taylor - 08 March 2012 12:17 PM

If I was going to leave conventional society to join anyone’s new community, it would be to join your’s. But, the thing that would worry me is this;

hulitoons - 07 March 2012 07:05 PM

AND no religions permitted.

I’m no fan of religion. Not that I’m particularly against it. But I am for freedom of belief. What if I had an epiphany and wanted to convert in the future? I wouldn’t want to be a part of any society that would prohibit that. Also, what if I decide I believe in ghosts, or advanced aliens governing our development, or nature spirits? Do any of these fantasies qualify as “religion” because they involve belief in the unprovable?

There is so much I can’t stand about our modern way of life. I’ve often wondered how I’d “reshape” society. I usually realise that banning most of the things that seem counter productive would lead to my becoming a tyrant. Many of our problems are down to freedom of belief and expression…and accepting those problems while maintaining that freedom is the greatest achievement of the western world.

Pft. Heck with that. Soon as I finish my orbital death ray laser, then a tyranting I shall go! Nothing like a good zap to tell people to sit down, play nice, and stop being idiots.

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4. Personal testamonials are not proof.

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Posted: 08 March 2012 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Paul Taylor - 08 March 2012 12:17 PM

If I was going to leave conventional society to join anyone’s new community, it would be to join your’s. But, the thing that would worry me is this;

hulitoons - 07 March 2012 07:05 PM

AND no religions permitted.

I’m no fan of religion. Not that I’m particularly against it. But I am for freedom of belief. What if I had an epiphany and wanted to convert in the future? I wouldn’t want to be a part of any society that would prohibit that. Also, what if I decide I believe in ghosts, or advanced aliens governing our development, or nature spirits? Do any of these fantasies qualify as “religion” because they involve belief in the unprovable?

There is so much I can’t stand about our modern way of life. I’ve often wondered how I’d “reshape” society. I usually realise that banning most of the things that seem counter productive would lead to my becoming a tyrant. Many of our problems are down to freedom of belief and expression…and accepting those problems while maintaining that freedom is the greatest achievement of the western world.

Make it No organized religions and then you can still beleive what you want

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Posted: 08 March 2012 01:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I’m for that Sharruma.  I think everyone, every individual has his/her own beliefs or nons. 

There has always and will always be thrashings among human beings based on beliefs, morals, ethics etc.  No matter what society you move into or develop it will have these issues and as the population of a single community grows, differences become more unstable.  Even within the atomic family unit there is the need for children to fledge and be on their own so they can grow. 

Our global population has become so dense and will predictably grow much denser.  At the same time our technology has given us an edge we hadn’t had before, that of instant and very wide information.  We’re able to watch more than just our politicians molest us as pawns on a chess board, but also infamous opinions by not just so many media persons but individual blogging.  Adding to this ruckus are all the mainstream religious groups stampeding into the political arena as well and mixing the pot into a volatile bomb.  There seems to be not an inch of care for the individual citizens at all except to use them as lethal bullets after rubbing the poison.

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