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NORWAY massacre: there were no “victims”. All staged. All camp “survivors” part of it - Arizona shooting remake
Posted: 24 August 2011 11:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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.... do we even know for sure that Norway itself exists?

I’ve never been there & neither has anyone I know…

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Posted: 24 August 2011 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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feotu - 24 August 2011 11:19 AM

.... do we even know for sure that Norway itself exists?

I’ve never been there & neither has anyone I know…

All the footage of the place was faked, on a soundstage on the Moon.

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Posted: 25 August 2011 03:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Accipiter - 24 August 2011 02:07 PM
feotu - 24 August 2011 11:19 AM

.... do we even know for sure that Norway itself exists?

I’ve never been there & neither has anyone I know…

All the footage of the place was faked, on a soundstage on the Moon.

Swamp gas, refracting the light of an unusually bright Venus.

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Posted: 30 August 2011 11:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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My youngest brother is afflicted with schizophrenia, and I can tell you that the condition is completely uncanny.  He has auditory hallucinations, and carries on very complex discussions with people only he can “see”.  Sometimes these conversations are very angry, but other times they seem quite philosophical.

The strangest thing is that, on one level at least, he “knows” that they are figments of his mind - it’s just that he can’t stop treating them as “real” on another level.  Basically he is a kind-hearted, warm person, so this is doubly tragic.

For the past few years he has been successfully medicated, and he is very diligent about taking his pills, so the severity and length of the episodes are both far less.  Unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to be getting any “better”, in any real sense.  He’s 54 years of age now, and I understand that he may improve slightly as he ages, but for all intents and purposes this condition has effectively crippled him.

This was a long preamble to explain why I, too, found the conspiratorial ramblings of “Prophet” et al to be very much in keeping with a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

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Posted: 31 August 2011 05:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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SteveE - 30 August 2011 11:08 PM

My youngest brother is afflicted with schizophrenia, and I can tell you that the condition is completely uncanny.  He has auditory hallucinations, and carries on very complex discussions with people only he can “see”.  Sometimes these conversations are very angry, but other times they seem quite philosophical.

The strangest thing is that, on one level at least, he “knows” that they are figments of his mind - it’s just that he can’t stop treating them as “real” on another level.  Basically he is a kind-hearted, warm person, so this is doubly tragic.

For the past few years he has been successfully medicated, and he is very diligent about taking his pills, so the severity and length of the episodes are both far less.  Unfortunately, he doesn’t seem to be getting any “better”, in any real sense.  He’s 54 years of age now, and I understand that he may improve slightly as he ages, but for all intents and purposes this condition has effectively crippled him.

This was a long preamble to explain why I, too, found the conspiratorial ramblings of “Prophet” et al to be very much in keeping with a diagnosis of schizophrenia.

Like you, I have a first degree family member with schizophrenia. Living with a schizophrenia patient for many years makes you recognize the signs.

Seems like your brother is doing reasonably well under it all - a good thing. The crippling effect of this illness, I have seen all too near.

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Posted: 01 September 2011 12:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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LaMa:

I am lucky enough to live in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, where we have a pretty good social safety net.  Once I rescued my brother from the street, we found him some government-subsidised housing and free medical care (including the medications).  He has a pretty nice bachelor apartment, with cheap meals available in a cafeteria, and he spends every weekend at my house with my family.  He’s doing pretty well, all things considered.

When he first went on his meds, he talked a lot about getting a job and finding a girlfriend.  Sadly, I think he has come to realize that work is probably not possible, since he just can’t focus for very long at one time (the voices, I’m sure, get in the way).  He’s also somewhat withdrawn, partly because of the meds and partly because I think he feels some social stigma, so the girlfriend thing may not be very likely.  Overall, though, I think he’s quite reasonably content.  I got him an inexpensive laptop so he can go on the web, a TV and cable, and a cell phone so he can call me or his doctor or the pharmacy.

He’s almost embarassingly grateful, which is nice in a way but unnecessary - I’d like to think he would do whatever was necessary for me if our situations were reversed.

Anyway, I wish you well in whatever personal trials you may be enduring.

I find the postings of seemingly-deluded persons on this forum to be merely depressing.  I don’t get any humour or relief out of reading or responding to them - they just hit too close to home for me.

Bon chance!

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Posted: 01 September 2011 03:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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True that, Steve. I’ve an aunt who’s had a laundry list of symptoms over the years, up to and including ‘Sweet Jesus they’re coming out of the WALLS!’. Thankfully, recent advances in medicine have really had an impact on her, and she’s not had an episode in over a decade.

I think that at the back of every snarky comment on this forum is the quietly-spoken (or occasionally stated outright) idea that maybe by our incredulous commentary that we might somehow inflict a coherent sense of reality upon the less-sane, and that they might realize they need help.

Probably not, but we can hope.

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Posted: 17 April 2012 04:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Oslo, Utoya 2011 = The remake of the purely virtual Arizona shootings 2010.
The only two differences:
- in Norway two people were indeed murdered to suggest that there was a massacre;
- the illuminati suggested first that it was a perfect remake, i.e. that the “shooter” would also remain a purely virtual role, waiting 7 months to let the actor impersonating the “shooter” step on stage.


Norway bombing and “shooting” = 911 without victims (except for one girl from Iraq and the stepbrother of crown princess Mette-Maritt)
Also published hours after the hoax was staged
http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/236904-norway-massacre-there-were-no-victims-all-staged-all-camp-members-part-of-the-theater-remake-of-arizona-shooting/

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Posted: 17 April 2012 09:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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*sigh*

Welcome back, LP… I do hope you have been getting medical attention while you’ve been gone?

I do wonder, if the Illuminati is so powerful and pervasie, why they would let LP run around loose? With that kind of power, you would think they would take care of such leaks.

Of course, if LP *is* the Illuminati, trying to spread disinformation to conceal their activities, then it becomes a lot easier.

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Posted: 17 April 2012 10:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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If only “they” (I´m looking at you conspiracy nuts) would use proper english instead of a stacato nonsense babble.
LP rants in a no head and no tails kinda way as if he is some sort of Yoda.

 

 

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Posted: 17 April 2012 01:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Well, again, that ties into the whole Apophenia thing. Their trouble making connections applies linguistically too. Thus you get weird, disjointed structure, words beign shoehorned sideways into meanings, and a general air of ‘crazy’.

On the plus side, it gives a fairly easy method for identification, but by the time you get through a couple sentences you’re pretty sure anyway.

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