The Voynich Manuscript: will we ever be able to read this book?
Posted: 05 June 2011 01:43 AM
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  10732
Joined  2008-02-21

An interesting little read regarding one of the items to be found in the Hoaxipedia.

Story link

Somewhere deep inside the bowels of Yale’s Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library

 Signature 

“Always, I Do What Is Necessary” - Rissa Kerguelen
Go to my Blog. It’s lonely.

I Am Still The Black Swan Of Trespass On Alien Waters
To the believer no proof is required; to the skeptic no proof is sufficient.

Profile
 
Posted: 05 June 2011 01:43 AM   [ # 1 ]
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  10732
Joined  2008-02-21

Cont’d

Other theories argue that the text’s meaning is concealed in tiny markings on the individual characters themselves, or that it contains a naturally occurring, non-European language that has been rewritten with an invented alphabet. In 2003, Gordon Rugg, a computer scientist at Keele University, claimed to have created a bogus language similar to Voynichese by using a “grille” to place invented letters on a page at random. But doubts about the claims have since arisen. “I don’t really think he proved or disproved anything,” says Dr Hodgins.

One of the theories that has gained ground in recent years, says Prof Rubio, is that the manuscript employs steganography to conceal its contents. This means that some or even most of the text is nonsense, and that only parts or even individual characters form part of the language. If this method was indeed employed, in addition to a cipher, then translating the contents might be exceedingly difficult.

Put on the spot, Dr Hodgins says: “It’s either a secret alchemical text, with the pictures telling a story

 Signature 

“Always, I Do What Is Necessary” - Rissa Kerguelen
Go to my Blog. It’s lonely.

I Am Still The Black Swan Of Trespass On Alien Waters
To the believer no proof is required; to the skeptic no proof is sufficient.

Profile
 
Posted: 05 June 2011 10:33 AM   [ # 2 ]
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  26052
Joined  2004-11-08

I’ve loved the Voynich since I first read about it.  I’m inclined to believe the hoax theory, though we may never know what the hoaxer intended with it, and that it will never be readable because there’s not actually anything encoded in it in the first place.  It’s still a beautiful and well executed manuscript though, unforeseeable breakthroughs in technology/technique aside, we shall probably never know more about it than we do now.

 Signature 

Heaven must be really boring, if you think about it logically.
All the angels must be snoring.  Who could stand perfection for eternity?

Not me. - George Hrab

Profile
 
Posted: 05 June 2011 10:50 AM   [ # 3 ]
Five Star Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  5155
Joined  2005-01-27

Hmmmm… maybe Donald G. Harden could crack it.

 Signature 


“By the sweat on our brows, and the strengths of our backs…Gentlemen. Hoist the Colours! And you, madam, I warn you, I know the entire Geneva Convention by heart!”
Trust me.

Profile
 
Posted: 05 June 2011 12:34 PM   [ # 4 ]
Five Star Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  6943
Joined  2005-10-21

The Voynich manuscript came up in a roleplaying game I was in.. apparently, it’s really a grimoire of life-based magics.

 Signature 

1: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If it does what it says, you should have no problem with this.
2: What proof will you accept that you are wrong? You ask us to change our mind, but we cannot change yours?
3: It is not our responsibility to disprove your claims, but rather your responsibility to prove them.
4. Personal testamonials are not proof.

What part of ‘meow’ don’t you understand?

Profile
 
Posted: 05 June 2011 02:22 PM   [ # 5 ]
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  26052
Joined  2004-11-08

So is the Necronomicon.  😉

 Signature 

Heaven must be really boring, if you think about it logically.
All the angels must be snoring.  Who could stand perfection for eternity?

Not me. - George Hrab

Profile
 
Posted: 05 June 2011 04:56 PM   [ # 6 ]
Five Star Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  6943
Joined  2005-10-21

Actually, that came up too.. It is purportedly a grimoire of death magics, but is actually designed to fool would-be necromancers into casting bogus spells. Just enough information, you know? Spells to gain favor with demons actually make them a towering beacon of light to those with true mage sight, etc.

 Signature 

1: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. If it does what it says, you should have no problem with this.
2: What proof will you accept that you are wrong? You ask us to change our mind, but we cannot change yours?
3: It is not our responsibility to disprove your claims, but rather your responsibility to prove them.
4. Personal testamonials are not proof.

What part of ‘meow’ don’t you understand?

Profile