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Carnosine and Glutathione
Posted: 14 March 2010 09:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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mungolina - 10 March 2010 12:26 PM

This discussion is separate from the Lifewave patches and homeopathy discussions; I am not concerned with those issues here, but I do want to find out more about the two substances, carnosine and glutathione; also beta-alanine, a component of carnosine, or a substance that interacts with it.

I am not into sport, and really don’t care if it makes sports people run faster!!! I am a cancer patient, recovering from op and radio/chemotherapy; and I also happen to be a female of 50. So I’m interested in general health factors, possible cancer-related factors, and anti-ageing factors. Most of all, I’m interested in professionally run trials and clean medical experiments, known side-effects etc.

It is quite possible that there is not enough known about these yet to be able to say clearly whether they are beneficial or if so, what for. However, any comments, feedback, links to information gratefully received, EXCEPT from anyone who sells the stuff and just wants me to buy it. I’m not buying anything from anyone before I have information that makes me believe it is worth it and safe.

Thank you all!

Just reminding folks that Sian, a Brit living in France has reminded us that she has no intention of purchasing the LifeWave products but is interested in finding out if the substances mentioned in the context of cancer treatments could be valuable.

Posters like Cleon don’t help Sian in the slightest.

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Posted: 15 March 2010 05:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Actually, plenty of intelligent conversation is being had here.  But you’re not contributing to it very well.

Plus, please (again) refer to the following:

Boo - 14 March 2010 12:07 PM

Cleon:
1) Calling people names is not acceptable.
2) If you wish to quote someone in order to respond to their post, please use the Quote button at the bottom of the post you wish to use.

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Posted: 15 March 2010 06:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Cleon,

How old are you, no, really?

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Posted: 15 March 2010 06:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Posted: 15 March 2010 10:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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cleon - 15 March 2010 08:05 AM

No intelligent conversation happening here.  All I wanted was for the dammers and the slammers to be
intelligent enough to at least understand the technology behind the patches. BUT NO ONE DOES!!

Maybe one of these days someone will offer an intelligent explanation of how the patches actually work and the technology behind them. There are several discussions happening on this forum about different types of patches. There has been nothing offered, shown or found (anywhere on the internet) that explains this. There is no intelligent explanation about the “science” behind the patches.

You can support them all you want, cleon, but until you and the other supporters start offering some of the extraordinary proof need to support your extraordinary claims you won’t be getting very far in changing the minds of anyone here.

Also, in addition to the two items Boo mentioned (and that Smerk reiterated above) please make sure you are familiar with the Forum Rules if you are going to continue posting here. In particular, you may want to know about #2 and #5. Thank you.

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Posted: 15 March 2010 04:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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cleon - 15 March 2010 07:49 AM

“Well, those many years of careful study and observation show that claims made by the company selling glutathione patches are totally false.  So if those many years of study and observation are right.” . .
Ya just cant get yr head around “A New Science”..... can ya!!! For Gods sake get a grip on an ever changing world and forever expanding technology… be open minded..!

It’s not “new science”.  The production and effects of glutathione in the body is old science.  So are such things as harmonics, electromagnetism, and so on.  For the claims made by the people making and selling these patches to be true, all of this old science, all of the actual direct observations, has to be totally wrong.  Thousands of scientists would need to have not actually seen what they saw and reported.  It doesn’t matter what goes on in the “technology” of the patches.  They could be powered by magical unicorn hairs, or advanced alien technology from a million years in the future, or by ancient lost arts.  It doesn’t matter how they are made.  What matters is how the body works.  So unless you or anybody else can show even the slightest shred of evidence that these patches work in the way that they are claimed to work, then the literally centuries of evidence showing that they don’t work that way have a tad more validity. . .

The things that those glutathione patches are claimed to do would kill you.  It doesn’t matter how it is done.  What matters are the results:  increased glutathione levels, by means of a non-invasive technology.  The “ever changing world” hasn’t changed to the point where our bodies would survive that healthily.

So, do you have even one tiny little piece of actual evidence that the patches do work the way that is claimed?  Just one?  Not some random nameless persona online saying, “Yes, they worked for me!”.  Anything at all showing that these patches truly did something?

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Posted: 15 March 2010 09:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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cleon - 16 March 2010 01:47 AM

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Posted: 16 March 2010 03:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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cleon - 16 March 2010 01:47 AM

There is no intelligent explanation about the

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Posted: 16 March 2010 08:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Posted: 16 March 2010 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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cleon - 16 March 2010 01:44 AM

“If they really were to do what they claim, then they would kill every person who used them.”

Heehee

Okaaaay. . .

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Posted: 16 March 2010 10:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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cleon - 16 March 2010 01:47 AM

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