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To Haiti’s Long List of Curses, Add Pat Robertson
Posted: 15 January 2010 12:04 PM
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Comments by Rev. Pat Robertson today suggesting that an ancient curse on Haiti was responsible for this week’s earthquake spurred a dumbfounded response from the White House, and then backpedalling by Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network.

On his television show “700 Club,” Robertson said “Something happened a long time ago in Haiti. ... They got together and swore a pact to the Devil…. They said, ‘We will serve you if you get us free from the French.’ True story. And so, the Devil said, ‘Okay, it’s a deal.’ And they kicked the French out. You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since, they have been cursed by one thing after another.”

Obviously the earthquake in Haiti this week was a consequence of a pact with Satan made a century ago.

Senior White House advisor Valerie Jarrett, appearing on “Good Morning America,” said she was “speechless” about Robertson’s comments. “That’s not the attitude that expresses the spirit of the president or the American people, so I thought it was a pretty stunning comment to make,” Jarrett said.

Robertson’s organization, the Christian Broadcasting Network, issued a statement stating that his comments were both factual and objective, and that Haiti’s history has led “countless scholars and religious figures over the centuries to believe the country is cursed.”

For Pat Robertson to recount a xenophobic legend as historical fact is bizarre enough, but he also seems to believe that there is some sort of objective evidence or scholarly consensus that Haiti has been cursed. It is certainly true that Haiti has been cursed with grinding poverty, low literacy rates, and occasional natural disasters. But the real cause of the 7.0 earthquake that devastated the country was a not curse from God, but instead friction along the Enriquillo-Plantain Garden Fault, an east-west ridge between two tectonic plates below Haiti.

Where did Robertson get the idea of a curse?

Caribbean cultures

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Posted: 15 January 2010 01:52 PM   [ # 1 ]
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Next weeks headline:

“Freak Meteorite Destroys Christian Broadcasting Network”


Wonder what he’ll make of that?

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Posted: 15 January 2010 02:16 PM   [ # 2 ]
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Don’t forget Rush Limbaugh’s latest comments about Haiti.  Natural disasters are nothing compared to his personal hatred of President Obama.

Rush Limbaugh meant what he said about Haiti

Rush Limbaugh is not backing down from his claim that President Barack Obama is trying to score political points off the earthquake in Haiti.

Challenged by a caller during his show Thursday, Limbaugh said:

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Posted: 15 January 2010 02:27 PM   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 15 January 2010 02:58 PM   [ # 4 ]
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Ugh. They’re both just… I have no words which are appropriate for this forum.

What’s wrong with these people? Do they have no compassion and believe that no-one else does either?

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Posted: 15 January 2010 03:14 PM   [ # 5 ]
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Boo - 15 January 2010 07:58 PM

...Do they have no compassion…?

Nope. :blank:

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Posted: 15 January 2010 04:04 PM   [ # 6 ]
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That man. 😠

He makes every person calling themselves a ‘Christian’ look bad. :shut:

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Hopefully, most people realise that he is NOT a normal Christian.
No Christians I know think like that.

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Posted: 15 January 2010 04:10 PM   [ # 8 ]
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Boo - 15 January 2010 09:07 PM

Hopefully, most people realise that he is NOT a normal Christian.
No Christians I know think like that.

I am really glad to hear that.  Every one that I know has hurting hearts for what the folks in Haiti must be going though right now.  I seriously dislike anyone who uses times like these to try and grandstand or make political “points”. 😡

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Well… no, I still can’t put it any better than I did in my first post in this thread.
Needless to say, I agree with you.

Luckily, there seem to be a lot of organisations who are (legitimately) raising money for them, at least over here, so I’m giving what I can.
(And I’m not even religious! 😉 )

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Posted: 15 January 2010 04:26 PM   [ # 10 ]
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I concur!  As I pointed out to my friend earlier (in chat), I expected the country and President Bush to give aid for the tsunami that hit in 2004.  He did.  I expected the country and President Obama to give aid for this tragedy as well.  He did.  There is no political agenda in being a good human being.

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Posted: 15 January 2010 07:23 PM   [ # 11 ]
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I tend to think that Christian organisations should not have their own broadcasting networks nor should there be any Church based political parties. Im happy to go to Church but I refuse to listen to my local Christian radio station.

I just find that when Christian organisations have their own media outlets or political parties it serves to enable those Christians who are on the lunatic fringe. Pat Robertson is one of those Christians who seems to have lost the plot and should retire from public life.

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Posted: 16 January 2010 08:34 AM   [ # 12 ]
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And once again, the fundamentalist part of “Christians” not only shows how stupid they are, but also how inhumane…

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Posted: 16 January 2010 08:54 AM   [ # 13 ]
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Goes for most reli fundamentalists.

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Ahdora - 15 January 2010 09:26 PM

I concur!  As I pointed out to my friend earlier (in chat), I expected the country and President Bush to give aid for the tsunami that hit in 2004.  He did.  I expected the country and President Obama to give aid for this tragedy as well.  He did.  There is no political agenda in being a good human being.

Nor is there a religious agenda. 

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I just had to reply to this one….... I am actually related to this jerk bag on my mothers side.  It makes me cringe.  He needs to shut his pie hole.

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N. - 22 January 2010 04:27 PM

I just had to reply to this one….... I am actually related to this jerk bag on my mothers side.  It makes me cringe.  He needs to shut his pie hole.

That’s ok, we won’t hold it against you! 😉

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Please don’t.  It’s not my fault!!  :red:

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Please don’t.  It’s not my fault!!  :red:

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Now, now Dave.  It wasn’t his fault.  But maybe he can point you in the right direction.

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Hmmm.  Maybe give a home address and a set of Google Streetview coordinates….. :coolsmirk:

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Roger Ebert had some choice words for Limbaugh’s comments. And I find it highly hypocritical that Limbaugh insists that Obama uses everything for political advantages when he (Limbaugh) uses every flipping thing the president does to get attention. Blah.

And I really don’t get how “Haiti” makes a deal with the devil. Did the entire population have one huge meeting and unanimously agree to this? And if that’s the case, then wouldn’t it be the original people who made the pact who were cursed? I mean, it’s not like the island itself made the deal (unless Robertson is being idiotic enough to imply that a mass of dirt and rock is able to think, summon Satan, and agree to a contract).

Oh, and riiiight, they summoned the devil to get a revolution for independence. Just like our ancestors did. You know, people can have a revolt if they’re upset enough with the government. The way Robertson’s saying it, I kind of feel like he’s implying “Oh, those silly people in Haiti couldn’t possibly have won a revolution on their own like we did! Nope, they must have needed evil supernatural forces”.

Again, I say blah.

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I am hoping the Rush Limbaugh’s main reason for stating that we are already give aid to Haiti in the form of our taxes was meant to say this: If we are sending so much money to them, when we ourselves as a Nation are in so in debt, why are they still so poor and struggling?  It’s a shame that Haiti has suffered so much.  I do get angry with the heartbreaking pictures that are constantly barraging the networks of childrens’ cartoons.  I don’t want my children seeing images of other children covered in blood, being carried out of ruined buildings.  I don’t want these images in their heads, or having them hear about how many are dying and if we’d just send more money, it would fix the problems.  It’s not that I think they should have their heads in the sand, I just wish I had been given the power to decide what they saw in relation to the disaster.  Neo and I don’t let our children watch shows that have gore and violence in them.  However, it seems when it’s a real life event, things that are horrific for the mind, are suddenly perfectly sensible to show on daytime television.  Even if it’s Cartoon Network.

I nearly threw up from several images that have been shown on the daytime TV channels that are meant to be kid friendly.  The one with the mounds of bodies covered with multiple white sheets, and someone walks by and pulls back a sheet to see if they know of the dead, it’s just not acceptable daytime images.  I’ve managed to change the channel a few times, but I really feel in some ways we’ve lost our compassion as a nation.  These people are having a horrible time of it right now, and we are posting the worse pictures we can find for the shock value.  It feels as though the pictures and images the media is sharing is meant more to shock than it is to inspire others to help out.  And that’s my two cents on the matter.

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