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You know that census guy that was hanged in Kentucky?
Posted: 28 September 2009 12:03 AM   [ Ignore ]
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It seems he was taking the gps coordinates of all the places he visited so the government could target them for destruction by Hellfire missiles.  Believe it, it says so in this article.  tongue wink

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Posted: 28 September 2009 02:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Hellfires don’t use GPS.  They don’t need it.

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Posted: 28 September 2009 03:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Accipiter - 28 September 2009 06:18 AM

Hellfires don’t use GPS.  They don’t need it.

Plus, GPS satellites aren’t geosynchronous, unlike the article says. Sloppy! That’s why us NWO guys don’t need to worry about them…  cool smirk

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Posted: 28 September 2009 07:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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This world is full of paranoid retards with way too much time on their hands. It’s a shame that instead of accusing governments of doing ludicrous things, that these people could actually be helping their communities properly rather than scaremongering a load of hogwash. The argument in that infowars article is pointless and stupid.

I also find it funny that they consider Barack Obama as a facist, when lots of others are claiming he’s a socialist because of the proposed health reforms. This is what happens when politics is compartmentalised.

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Posted: 29 September 2009 01:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Translating the guy’s article from ConspiroSpeak:

“I personally can’t imagine any non-nefarious uses for this GPS idea.  Since I can’t imagine one, then it is obvious that nobody else can, because I am special and elite.  And since I have just proven that nobody can come up with a non-nefarious use for the program, then obviously there can only be a nefarious use.

I’m also too special to bother reading the Census Bureau’s press releases on this subject, or to learn anything about GPS, or to do any other such acts that would alleviate my ignorance.  That would require my admitting ignorance, which I can’t do because I am so special and elite.  Instead I’ll get all of my information from the people who I know already agree with me and who get their information from me or from other like-minded people, because that way the information fits more easily into my pre-made mould.  It’s wearisome having to take the trouble to chip off and discard all of the inconvenient facts that don’t fit into the mould.

Having decided that there must be a nefarious plot, I shall randomly flail around on the Internet until I manage to bump into some small nugget of information that I can somehow sort of connect to the subject at hand, if I use enough duct tape and squint a lot when I look at it.  I won’t do any more looking for information after that, though, because again I might run into those troublesome facts and stuff.  It’s much neater if I simply take two facts and invent the additional facts that are needed to connect them.  This way it forms a nice clean straight connection to anybody else who is also as ignorant as I am.  And by making sure that I and my friends flood the Internet with our own junk and that we link almost exclusively to each other (thereby forming what is basically a totally separate circular universe online that doesn’t often branch out into reality), we can try to make certain that we and other people do remain properly ignorant.  And this will help to assure me that I am indeed special and elite, because then I can feel all superior to anybody who disagrees with me.”

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Posted: 29 September 2009 04:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Accipiter - 28 September 2009 06:18 AM

Hellfires don’t use GPS.  They don’t need it.

Yep. Line-of-sight, aren’t they? Maybe if you didn’t have air superiority, you’d use GPS missiles, but with Hellfires, you pretty much have a plane (or UAV, these days) flying high enough to be a tiny speck in the sky, with a camera that can count your eyelashes from that distance.

Now, I *could* see recording GPS coordinates for later investigation and being able to say ‘there is a possible military compound at X,Y, let’s call in an air strike on that’... but then I realize I’m not a paranoid git.

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Posted: 29 September 2009 10:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Hellfires don’t use GPS.  They don’t need it.

Yep. Line-of-sight, aren’t they? Maybe if you didn’t have air superiority, you’d use GPS missiles, but with Hellfires, you pretty much have a plane (or UAV, these days) flying high enough to be a tiny speck in the sky, with a camera that can count your eyelashes from that distance.

Now, I *could* see recording GPS coordinates for later investigation and being able to say ‘there is a possible military compound at X,Y, let’s call in an air strike on that’... but then I realize I’m not a paranoid git.

The US government’s National Reconnaisance Office has 3 very nice KH-12 Keyhole optical reconnaissance satellites (plus possibly one Misty Stealth satellite) and 4 Lacrosse (Onyx) SAR (Radar) satellites for that in orbit. They really don’t need to send a census worker to gather coordinates….

Informed guesses are that the KH-12 imagery has a resolution of about 4 inches, and the Lacrosse radar imagery of about a yard….

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Posted: 30 September 2009 09:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Huh, I thought crazy people only wrote insane theory essays for fandoms like Harry Potter

Some of the comments are pretty goofy:

Yes, he is on the money OVERALL. However, missile strikes on Americans in their homes would attract quite a bit of attention and opposition. The MO in play has long been stealth, secrecy, covert operations. While missile strikes would undoubtedly be available in the arsenal, look toward more subtle methods. GPS guided bio weapons, perhaps? GPS guided swine flu outbreak? GPS guided mind control systems (Yes, the technology exists to create such a system)?

And originally, the government assured the American public that social security numbers would never be used for identification purposes. The only thing consistent about the government, the only thing you can count on the government doing is lying, over and over and over again. It is the one area in which they excel at.

Absolutely. I have no doubt whatsoever that the tsunami of 2004 was HAARP technology , I am not sure it came from Alaska though. I

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Posted: 01 October 2009 12:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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GPS would really be a pretty stupid system for something like this.  It’s navigational guidance rather than target tracking.  Presumably the “evil cabal” or whomever would want to silence the person who lives at the house, not the house itself.  If you simply fire a missile at a set of coordinates, you have no idea whether or not the person you want to drop the missile on will actually be at that location.  To know if your intended target is actually in the house, you need to have somebody there on location watching the house.  And if you have that, then it’s easier and more certain to have that person send out some sort of targeting laser to guide the missile in.  GPS would be useless in that case.

Of course, the whole idea of a secret group of conspirators dropping missiles on people is rather idiotic overall.  People might start to notice if somebody started dropping missiles on houses, after all.  And it’s not like you can simply blame it on gang violence or a robbery gone wrong.  It would basically be equivalent to putting out ads in all national newspapers reading, “We’re a secret diabolical society, and we have some control over parts of the military”.  What would make even more sense would be to have the above mentioned person who is on site watching the target simply walk over, ring the doorbell, and then shoot the target when he opens the door.  That is how a nefarious secret organisation would do it.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the tsunami of 2004 was HAARP technology , I am not sure it came from Alaska though. I

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Posted: 01 October 2009 01:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Okay, I got bored and looked through his article a bit more.

This will be the first in a series of essays about the practical aspects of creating a fascist state. I have long written about the New World Order and its intentions of reestablishing the Middle Ages with its Feudal system. That plan is now well along in its implementation in my view. There are still some aspects to be finished, but the fascist state is pretty much in place.

Aside from the little matter of the US not really showing much in the way of signs of being a fascist state, and showing many signs of not being a fascist state.  The very fact that this guy is able to freely write and publish this stuff (and sign it with his own name, even) shows how non-fascist it is.

While there are many different aspects of this rapidly forming global fascist state,

Ummm, yeah.  We’ve seen so many signs of all the nations of the world all working meekly together under one managing body.

One of the most distinctive technologies highlighted in the “Star Trek” franchise was the ability of the Federation/Star Fleet to find all of their people any time they wanted. The way Star Fleet did this was to have this little pin on their chests. This particular technique would apply more to microchip technology than to the GPS system in my view.

And is totally unlike what the Census Bureau is wanting to do.

Over the last few decades the GPS, or Global Positioning System, has been upgraded far beyond its original intention.

Beyond its original intention?  Its original intention was to provide the most accurate location coordinates possible, with the most reliability possible.  The upgrades have been to bring it closer to its intention.  What does this guy think that it was originally supposed to do?  Make a pattern of pretty satellites for people to look at?

In case you forgot, GPS was sold as a way to rescue people who were lost etc. etc. etc. In reality, GPS was always a military system. Always has been and always will be.

No, it was originally set up as a way for the Navy to not get lost when sailing around.  Then the military gradually opened up some of its navigational abilities to the public as well, though at what it admitted was a reduced capability.  The civilian uses were always known to be a sideline, not the main purpose.  There was never any misdirection there.

GPS is a satellite based locator technology, cruising at 22,000 miles in a geo synchronous orbit used by the military to target their missiles.

Not much.  GPS is a lousy system for missiles, especially since you have to get the coordinates before you can use it.  The military uses it mainly for navigation.

GPS has been in the news a lot recently. First, I have seen several articles which say that GPS is in crisis and needs to be upgraded, replaced or whatever.

What happened was that one agency in the US government expressed concern that the GPS satellites were outdated and might also be in danger of wearing out (some of them have been up there for close to 20 years now).  Then the government agency in charge of them basically said, “No, everything’s cool.  We’ve got it all under control.”  Hardly a crisis.

I find that interesting.

Why?  He never says. . .

I ask myself exactly why would a civilian census department, originally intended merely to count the numbers of people in the country has done this.

But it wasn’t intended merely to count the numbers of people in the country.  The US Constitution itself set up the US Census Bureau and explicitly stated that it was to determine how many people there are and where they are, so as to accurately work out how many representatives would be in government.  Determining the location of US citizens is therefore a Constitutional mandate of the Census. . .and the GPS network was designed as a method for determining location.  Gosh, could there possibly be a way in which an organisation created for the purpose of determining the specific locations of people could use a system that is designed to show the specific location of things?

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Posted: 01 October 2009 01:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Exactly why does the Census Department need to know the precise GPS location of every household in the USA? Of course, the answer is they don’t.

Of course, the answer is they do.  The US Census Bureau has indeed gone beyond their Constitutional mandate (which is fine, since the Constitution didn’t limit them just to that).  They also serve the states, counties, towns, and so on now, not just the Federal government.  Which makes sense, seeing as how they already have the information; why have eight or nine different censuses giving the same information?

Consider a town election:  typically, only people who live in town are allowed to vote in it.  But how do you know who lives in town?  Well, you figure out where the person’s house is and then determine whether or not that house is within the town boundry.  Towns typically don’t go out and paint a nice big line across the countryside marking their boundry, however, so it can often be tricky to tell if a house is on one side of the boundry or another.  Using GPS would make this a lot easier.

Also, Census workers often have to go to certain specific addresses.  Having GPS coordinates for the address can make this easier, since (as has been mentioned) GPS is specifically set up for navigation.

So yes, GPS information is very useful in determing what town, district, burough, or whatever else voters live in.  Which is basically what the US Census Buereau was set up to determine, though initiatially it only had to look at it on a national level.

Like I said before, GPS is a military technology that has certain non lethal applications.

All of its applications are non-lethal.  It’s a navigation aid.

GPS can either be used to locate a missing hiker on Mount Hood, or it can be used to target a Predator drone missile.

No it can’t, because the Predator drones (Reaper drones, to be picky) target their missiles by means of lasers.

There is absolutely no reasonable, rational or logical reason for the Census Department to have, or need the precise GPS location of every household in the USA.

Yes there is.  The Census Bureau even specifically described the reasons publicly.  Failure to look for reasons doesn’t mean that there are none.

However, there is a need for the Department of Defense to need this kind of info. Things happen in clusters in my view. It is all in the context in my view. If all you look at is the GPS locators, you will miss the big picture. First, we have that pathetic example of humanity called Janet Janet of the Fatherland Security Department with her delusional ranting in these so called reports of hers. We have state level reports, as in Missouri, stating the “terror threat” of certain classes of American citizens. So, the way I see it the GPS locator program makes sense only if you view it from a military standpoint.

Okay. . .that was all totally incoherent, and I don’t see any attempt made to connect any of whatever that was to a military necessity for GPS coordinates.

To put it in the plainest terms possible, the only reason you would use a GPS locator system designed to target military weapons, is indeed you intend to use it for military targeting purposes.

Unfortunately for this “logic”, GPS wasn’t designed solely (or even mainly) to target military weapons.  Nor is the Census Bureau putting out GPS locators.  They aren’t physically putting anything anywhere.  There isn’t any sort of broadcasting device or anything like that.  From what I can tell, they’re just going to stand in front of your house, read the coordinates on their GPS receiver, enter it into a log, and then drive away.

I am telling you quite openly, in the little remaining time we have left, the main purpose of the 2010 Federal Census is to get these GPS coordinates into the Pentagon Data Base. And the reason to get them into the NWO controlled US military database is they will used to target “dissidents” with the kind of warfare being perfected in Pakistan’s tribal areas as I write this essay.

Yeaaaaaaah.  It makes perfect sense that the US government would publicly go through a long and elaborate process by which it could target a single noisy individual’s front door with a highly expensive and incredibly obvious missile, launched from an expensive drone that requires a large amount of effort to set up and get in flight.

I will tell you plainly, the NWO controlled American military wants these GPS markers so they can launch Predator Drone missile attacks, the aptly named HELLFIRE missile I might add, against a long list of undesirables here in CONUS, continental United States.

If the government already has this list, then what’s the point of all this?

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Posted: 01 October 2009 06:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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If you want to bomb your own citizens, I would go for a concrete bomb. No explosions and it will flatten the hell out of the target. Plus you have deniability.
“Oh, we are so sorry for that training missile on his house/car/boat…”

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