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E-Cigarettes: Can They Help You Quit?
Posted: 16 July 2009 07:03 PM
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I’ll probably regret posting this because we’ll start getting even more spammers and they’ll start trying to push these here.  But I found this article on the MSN Health & Fitness pages and found it interesting.  I had heard about E-cigarettes in passing but didn’t really know what they were.  (And didn’t really care, not being a smoker.)

E-Cigarettes:// Can They Help You Quit

by Dr. Ranit Mishori, PARADE

I recently was surprised to see cigarettes for sale at several kiosks at my local mall. At least, I thought they were cigarettes. Then I discovered that they actually were “electronic cigarettes”—battery-powered puffables that produce no smoke and contain no known carcinogens or tar.

The look-alikes, which are less expensive than cigarettes, are made to re-create the real experience. They’re marketed in fancy packages with gold inscriptions and photos of good-looking people “smoking.” They produce a vapor that looks like smoke, and the tip glows red as you puff on it. When you inhale, your lungs get a dose of chemicals that typically include nicotine, which gives smoking its kick and makes it addictive. But their biggest advantage, one saleswoman told me, is that electronic cigarettes—or “cigars,” “cigarillos,” or “pipes” designed on the same principles—help smokers kick the habit.

That caught my attention. I know how hard it is for many of my patients to quit smoking. If there’s something new out there to help them, I want to know about it.

Back home, an Internet search turned up thousands of hits and promises: “A great aid for those struggling to stop smoking.” “No risk of cancer.” “Use anywhere: indoors, airports, hospitals.” But I could find no scientific research at all.

Dr. Jack Henningfield, an expert on addiction who serves as a scientific adviser on tobacco to the World Health Organization (WHO), calls e-cigarettes “renegade products” for which “we have no scientific information.” The electronic cigarette, he says, is a vehicle to deliver nicotine to the body. Its effects, he says, “are not benign,” especially when breathed into the lungs.

While there is a “data void,” scientists worldwide question the claim that e-cigarettes help stop smoking. If anything, they worry that these aggressively marketed products could introduce more people to an addiction they never had. Indeed, the WHO has stated that e-cigarettes are not “a legitimate therapy for smokers trying to quit.” Dr. Henningfield notes that some manufacturers “blatantly go after young people,” advertising e-cigarettes with flavors “like chocolate and candy.”

Other nicotine substitutes—the “patch,” or gum, for example—are licensed as drugs and require Food and Drug Administration approval. But e-cigarettes, nearly all of them manufactured in China, have not been licensed as drugs or regulated.

Recently, however, the FDA initiated a ban on imports of e-cigarettes on the ground that they constitute unapproved drug-delivery devices (an action being challenged in court). It may take additional measures to restrict their sale.

Without more evidence, we won’t know whether e-cigarettes have the potential to do any good or if they really do pose health risks. For now, if you’re a smoker trying to quit, talk to your doctor about other, proven methods.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 12:41 AM   [ # 1 ]
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I wonder how long until these become outlawed.  For a while, there were some cigarettes that were flavored, I think they were India style, but they are no longer sold here in the USA.  Many parents had a fit since the candy type flavors seemed to entice more kids into smoking by making them seem more like candy than a carcinogen.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 02:12 AM   [ # 2 ]
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They tried to make these a while back, until it was discovered that the things were almost perfectly suited to smoking crack cocaine…

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Posted: 17 July 2009 05:08 AM   [ # 3 ]
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Nicotine is an extremely addictive (and I should know) compound.  While e-cigarettes provide cleaner delivery of nicotine to the user without first or second-hand smoke making it desirable for use in places where ‘smoking’ is restricted or prohibited, it is STILL delivering addictive nicotine and should not be confused or advertised as a ‘quit’ method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine

“Nicotine addiction has historically been one of the hardest addictions to break.” The pharmacological and behavioral characteristics that determine tobacco addiction are similar to those that determine addiction to drugs such as heroin and cocaine.[5]

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Posted: 17 July 2009 05:26 AM   [ # 4 ]
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In The Netherlands the ones with nicotine a bannend now.
The new brand is very popular now.
They have a “smokey” feeling but are not addictive.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 11:01 AM   [ # 5 ]
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The easiest way to not smoke is to not start.  And not having been a smoker ever myself, I would assume that just quitting would be the simplest way to quit.  Just like losing weight, if you depend on pills and supplements it probably ain’t gonna happen, good old fashioned exercise and living healthy is the tired and true method.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 01:20 PM   [ # 6 ]
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NEO - 17 July 2009 03:01 PM

The easiest way to not smoke is to not start.  And not having been a smoker ever myself, I would assume that just quitting would be the simplest way to quit.

Simplest perhaps, but not necessarily the most effective if the person is actually addicted rather than just fond of smoking.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 02:13 PM   [ # 7 ]
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The easiest way to not smoke is to not start.  And not having been a smoker ever myself, I would assume that just quitting would be the simplest way to quit.

Simplest perhaps, but not necessarily the most effective if the person is actually addicted rather than just fond of smoking.

I’ve seen people go on the patch, then back to smoking, chew the gum, back to smoking.  If you are gonna quit you gotta quit.

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Posted: 17 July 2009 05:37 PM   [ # 9 ]
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Being a smoker for over 20 years now, I can attest that “quitting” is NOT just a simple matter of giving them up and walking away.  It does odd things to your thinking when you quit.  On along the second or third day, you walk around just hoping to find a half cigarette on the ground. Knowing that it could have been smoked by an AIDS ravaged, blood coughing, infected tyoe doesn’t matter.  You just WANT THE D*(&#

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Posted: 28 February 2011 11:23 AM   [ # 10 ]
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Agreed VocalET and thank you for this info!  I am into my 4th month using e-cigs and I will not regret making this move either.  I can breathe better, no coughing, feel better physically etc. 

In fact, both of the companies I buy from adamantly do NOT advocate their products for smoking cessation at all, but rather for long-time smokers, a MUCH healthier delivery of nicotine.  They also make it VERY clear that these are NOT for children and I was even screened to be sure (by one company) that I was in fact the age I purported before they would ship the product to me. 

What they can and cannot do, how they are manufactured including specific ingredients etc. are very visible and discussed on these two sites as well. 

Glycerin, is the ingredient that enables the vapor (and which, for those who wish to mix their own nicotine flavors are advised to purchase at Walgreens).  Interestingly, some reviews have suggested erroneously that freon is used in e-cigs.  E-cigs do NOT use freon but rather share an ingredient, glycerine, which is used in a number of health and medical products unassociated with the product freon!

NOTE:  I have been ONLY using e-cigs since I received my first!

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Posted: 01 February 2012 03:29 AM   [ # 11 ]
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My doctors are pleased (note that’s plural doctors).  I’ve been one year and two months without analogs. 

They do increase energy AND the ability to breathe too but that’s because there is no tar or carcinogens that you get from tobacco or other products that are smoked such as pot.

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